Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-09 Thread Alex Schuster
Alan McKinnon writes: > On Thursday 08 October 2009 20:33:01 Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:54:26 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > > And it's usually quicker to type with backticks instead of $(): > > > > But nowhere near as clear. > > And it's quicker to type "$(" - muscle mem

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:22:05 -0400, Jonathan Callen wrote: > that's mainly because I switched my escape for GNU screen from ^A to ` That's a good idea, as I use ` a lot less than Ctrl-A I may do the same. Then I'll have to override years opf muscle m

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-08 Thread Jesús Guerrero
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:22:05 -0400, Jonathan Callen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Neil Bothwick wrote: >> Note you can also nest commands when using $(), which you can't do with >> backticks. > > You can nest commands with ``, it's just less intuitive; each of the

[gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-08 Thread Jonathan Callen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Neil Bothwick wrote: > Note you can also nest commands when using $(), which you can't do with > backticks. You can nest commands with ``, it's just less intuitive; each of the following are equivalent: echo $(echo $(echo $(echo $(echo foo ec

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-08 Thread Jesús Guerrero
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 19:33:01 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:54:26 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> And it's usually quicker to type with backticks instead of $(): > > But nowhere near as clear. > >> Note: not single-quotes ('), but backticks (`). It's usually the key

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:34:37 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> And it's usually quicker to type with backticks instead of $(): > > > > But nowhere near as clear. > > > >> Note: not single-quotes ('), but backticks (`). It's usually the key > >> above TAB and to the left of 1. > > > > I r

[gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 10/08/2009 11:02 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 08 October 2009 21:27:57 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 10/08/2009 10:19 PM, James Ausmus wrote: I've used it before - I can't remember what is was for, but I do remember using nested $() commands... Isn't ` being deprecated (by BASH at lea

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 08 October 2009 21:27:57 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 10/08/2009 10:19 PM, James Ausmus wrote: > > I've used it before - I can't remember what is was for, but I do > > remember using nested $() commands... > > > > Isn't ` being deprecated (by BASH at least) anyway? > > Hopefully not!

[gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 10/08/2009 09:33 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:54:26 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: And it's usually quicker to type with backticks instead of $(): But nowhere near as clear. Note: not single-quotes ('), but backticks (`). It's usually the key above TAB and to the lef

[gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 10/08/2009 10:19 PM, James Ausmus wrote: I've used it before - I can't remember what is was for, but I do remember using nested $() commands... Isn't ` being deprecated (by BASH at least) anyway? Hopefully not! It's just two key presses to type "``". "$()" takes 4 (shift+4+9, command, shi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-08 Thread James Ausmus
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Thursday 08 October 2009 20:33:01 Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:54:26 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > > And it's usually quicker to type with backticks instead of $(): > > > > But nowhere near as clear. > > And it's q

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 08 October 2009 20:33:01 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:54:26 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > And it's usually quicker to type with backticks instead of $(): > > But nowhere near as clear. And it's quicker to type "$(" - muscle memory - than to do the whole hunt- pe

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:54:26 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > And it's usually quicker to type with backticks instead of $(): But nowhere near as clear. > Note: not single-quotes ('), but backticks (`). It's usually the key > above TAB and to the left of 1. I rest my case :) Note you can al

[gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 10/08/2009 06:28 PM, James wrote: One final question. When I run this command: emerge -1 $(qlist -I x11-drivers) I get this error: 'x11-drivers/ati-drivers' is not a valid package atom Please check ebuild(5) for full details. Try: emerge -1 $(qlist -I x11-drivers) And it's usually quicker

[gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-08 Thread James
Jesús Guerrero terra.es> writes: > Probably the colors screwing everything, as always. Try searching the > qlist man page for something like --nocolor or --color=never. Yep: emerge -1 $(qlist -IC x11-drivers) works just fine thx James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-08 Thread Jesús Guerrero
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 15:28:12 + (UTC), James wrote: > Jesús Guerrero terra.es> writes: > > >> You can't since you want to use ati-driver/fglrx. The fglrx is not part >> of >> the kernel, it's only shipped in the form of a binary-only closed source >> kernel module. fglrx doesn't need (and mos

[gentoo-user] Re: FIXED 3D

2009-10-08 Thread James
Jesús Guerrero terra.es> writes: > You can't since you want to use ati-driver/fglrx. The fglrx is not part of > the kernel, it's only shipped in the form of a binary-only closed source > kernel module. fglrx doesn't need (and most likely will fail as you see) > the in-kernel radeon drm driver. S