Blank screen after Xorg update (was: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED])

2009-10-11 Thread Alex Schuster
I wrote: > At the moment I am away for two days from my machine, and so I am doing > the BIG update now. xorg-server is upgraded to 1.6.3.901-r2, I followed > the upgrade guide and also did the libxcb stuff. I removed then kdeprefix > use flag, unmerged all of kde-4.2, updated world, depcleaned. N

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-09 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Freitag, 9. Oktober 2009 schrieb Dale: > > >> I'll give that a try. I tend to restore a saved session anyway. u, >> I couldn't find the option to edit the menu like in KDE 3. It used to >> be in Applications then Settings. The updating tool is there but not

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-09 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Freitag, 9. Oktober 2009 schrieb Dale: > I'll give that a try. I tend to restore a saved session anyway. u, > I couldn't find the option to edit the menu like in KDE 3. It used to > be in Applications then Settings. The updating tool is there but not > the editing one. Right-click on t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-09 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Dale wrote: > Paul Hartman wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Dale wrote: >> >>> pk wrote: >>> Dale wrote: > I hate to say it this way, but hal just plain sucks. I may play with it > some later but I'm getting sick of hal big tim

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-09 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote: > On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Dale wrote: > >> pk wrote: >> >>> Dale wrote: >>> >>> >>> I hate to say it this way, but hal just plain sucks. I may play with it some later but I'm getting sick of hal big time. It's starting to really leave a b

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-09 Thread Alex Schuster
Dale writes: > Well, I upgraded to xorg-server-1.6 and guess what, it was a bust, > AGAIN. I moved xorg.conf, re-emerged the xf86-input-* stuff and it did > do a little better. I bumped the mouse and the pointer moved, then it > locked up and my fans started spinning up so I assume the CPU was g

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-09 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Dale wrote: > pk wrote: >> Dale wrote: >> >> >>> I hate to say it this way, but hal just plain sucks. I may play with it >>> some later but I'm getting sick of hal big time. It's starting to >>> really leave a bad taste in my mouth. >>> >> >> Then you might like t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-09 Thread Dale
pk wrote: > Dale wrote: > > >> I hate to say it this way, but hal just plain sucks. I may play with it >> some later but I'm getting sick of hal big time. It's starting to >> really leave a bad taste in my mouth. >> > > Then you might like this: > http://www.x.org/wiki/Events/XDC2009/Note

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-09 Thread pk
Dale wrote: > I hate to say it this way, but hal just plain sucks. I may play with it > some later but I'm getting sick of hal big time. It's starting to > really leave a bad taste in my mouth. Then you might like this: http://www.x.org/wiki/Events/XDC2009/Notes#head-754e4968dd043dcf2166dff

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:05:16 +0900, daid kahl wrote: > That's okay. I washed my passport once. Did your photo look any better afterwards? ;-) -- Neil Bothwick If you consult enough experts, you can confirm any opinion. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread Dale
Alex Schuster wrote: > Dale writes: > > >> Alex Schuster wrote: >> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key >>> > > >> That's the one. I think its either the second or third key that makes >> it go back to a console. It is nice to know about. I have it taped to >> my wa

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread daid kahl
>> Nope, you're just doing it wrong. You're forgetting to do the bit where >> you pop the key lids off to wash them then forget where to put them >> back > > That explains it, I just put the whole keyboard in the dishwasher. > > That may sound stupid, but it's not as bad as using Cc: on mailing lis

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 21:17:14 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > I've had this keyboard a few years and it's always stayed in exactly > > the same place. Maybe the other keys stop it moving :) > Nope, you're just doing it wrong. You're forgetting to do the bit where > you pop the key lids off to wash

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 08 October 2009 20:30:30 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:47:03 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > > The System Request key. Generally located somewhere in the upper > > right. > > Also marked PrtScn. > > > It moves around though. > > I've had this keyboard a few years and it's

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:47:03 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> The System Request key. Generally located somewhere in the upper >> right. > > Also marked PrtScn. > >> It moves around though. > > I've had this keyboard a few years and it's always

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:47:03 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > The System Request key. Generally located somewhere in the upper > right. Also marked PrtScn. > It moves around though. I've had this keyboard a few years and it's always stayed in exactly the same place. Maybe the other keys stop it movin

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Alex Schuster writes: > >>> I'm curious about the actual key strokes. Is it >>> >>> Alt-SysRq and then REISUB > > And what is `SysRq' a reference to on a keyboard? On US keyboards SysRq is usually on the Print Screen key. (like Break is on t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Alex Schuster writes: > >>> I'm curious about the actual key strokes. Is it >>> >>> Alt-SysRq and then REISUB > > And what is `SysRq' a reference to on a keyboard? > > > The System Request key. Generally located somewhere in the upper right.

[gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread Harry Putnam
Alex Schuster writes: >> I'm curious about the actual key strokes. Is it >> >> Alt-SysRq and then REISUB And what is `SysRq' a reference to on a keyboard?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:09:00 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > I've seen you guys talk about this and I've never had to use it. I'm > curious about the actual key strokes. Is it > > Alt-SysRq and then REISUB > > or > > Alt-SysRq followed by Atl-R, Atl-E, etc.. ? Hold down Alt-SysRq while pressing REI

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-07 Thread Alex Schuster
Dale writes: > Alex Schuster wrote: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key > That's the one. I think its either the second or third key that makes > it go back to a console. It is nice to know about. I have it taped to > my wall for reference. It beats having to pull the plug withou

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Alex Schuster wrote: > Mark Knecht writes: > >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> > On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 18:39:45 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: >> >> Others allow to kill processes, sync the filesystem, and such. The >> >> combination Alt-SysRq-R

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-07 Thread Alex Schuster
Mark Knecht writes: > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 18:39:45 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: > >> Others allow to kill processes, sync the filesystem, and such. The > >> combination Alt-SysRq-R-E-I-S-U-B reboots a hanging PC without file > >> system corr

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 18:39:45 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: > >> Others allow to kill processes, sync the filesystem, and such. The >> combination Alt-SysRq-R-E-I-S-U-B reboots a hanging PC without file >> system corruption. > > Usually! Sometime

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 18:39:45 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: > Others allow to kill processes, sync the filesystem, and such. The > combination Alt-SysRq-R-E-I-S-U-B reboots a hanging PC without file > system corruption. Usually! Sometimes a system can be locked up to badly that there's not enough r

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-07 Thread Dale
Alex Schuster wrote: > Harry Putnam writes: > > >> Dale writes: >> >>> I also know the SysReq key trick now. It can take you back to a >>> console. >>> >> I'll bite ... what is it? >> > > Some magic commands involving the SysRq key allow actions even if the system > hangs and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-07 Thread Alex Schuster
Harry Putnam writes: > Dale writes: > > I also know the SysReq key trick now. It can take you back to a > > console. > > I'll bite ... what is it? Some magic commands involving the SysRq key allow actions even if the system hangs and does not respond. Alt-SysRq-R for example resets the keyboar

[gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-07 Thread Harry Putnam
Dale writes: > I also know the SysReq key trick now. It can take you back to a console. I'll bite ... what is it?