Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Roy Wright wrote:
>> On Feb 10, 2010, at 8:34 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>> > On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Christian Apeltauer wrote:
>> >> Hello list,
>> >> when I synced my portage tree today, I saw that kmail-4.4.0 needs
>> >> kdel
On 02/11/2010 01:35 PM, Zeerak Waseem wrote:
It just seems silly that if you want to use the newest version of kate, kmail
etc.
> that semantic-desktop is forced upon you, when you're not interested in
having the
> entire DE.
By the authority vested in me by My-Wife-the-Windows-User, I welco
Zeerak Waseem wrote:
> I just started a degree, to accomplish -something akin to- that ;-)
Ah, good. Let me give you some free advice, well in advance. When
it comes time to pick people for your thesis committee -- pick ones
who love to argue. I think it may save you some pain later.
On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Jörg Schaible wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Roy Wright wrote:
> >> On Feb 10, 2010, at 8:34 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> >> > On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Christian Apeltauer wrote:
> >> >> Hello list,
> >> >> when I synced
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:25:31 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> I don't know what load it creates because I never even have any
> negative impact. Yes, there is some nepomuk stuff sleeping in the
> background and it has zero impact on my desktop behaviour.
It's the Strigi indexer that can affec
On 11 Feb 2010, at 00:01, Jörg Schaible wrote:
...
your understanding is wrong. Completely wrong. Seriously it hurts.
start here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEPOMUK_(framework)
and then proceed with the links.
google-desktop is something completley different (and something
that can
be r
On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Stroller wrote:
> On 11 Feb 2010, at 00:01, Jörg Schaible wrote:
> >> ...
> >> your understanding is wrong. Completely wrong. Seriously it hurts.
> >>
> >> start here:
> >>
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEPOMUK_(framework)
> >>
> >> and then proceed with the li
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 01:17:07AM +, Stroller wrote
> I cannot for a moment believe that you (Roy) can organise your files
> so that you can find them easier than typing a search term & clicking
> on the correct result. You just don't want to try it because your
> current methods are "g
On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 01:17:07AM +, Stroller wrote
>
> > I cannot for a moment believe that you (Roy) can organise your files
> > so that you can find them easier than typing a search term & clicking
> > on the correct result. You just don'
On 2/11/2010 7:00 AM, Walter Dnes wrote:
And if I really wanted a glitzy, bloated,
slow-as-molasses, pointy-clicky-touchy-feely-oowee-GUI, I would've
stayed with Windows, thank you. I started with Blckbox and am now on
ICEWM.
So, to summarize:
* You don't like modern desktop environment desi
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Jörg Schaible wrote:
> Well, in 4.3.x I eliminated it after the first try, because it took so many
> resources of my machine, that I could not use it for something else. So, you
> mean, in 4.4.x it takes only a 10% of the resources it took with 4.3.x? LOL,
> althou
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:00:27 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote:
> Yes, I can organize my files to the point where I rarely ever use
> find. Just because you can't, is not a reason to slow down everybody
> else's desktop.
Is this ignorance or FUD?
It must be FUD because it has already been stated coun
On Feb 11, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:00:27 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote:
>
>> Yes, I can organize my files to the point where I rarely ever use
>> find. Just because you can't, is not a reason to slow down everybody
>> else's desktop.
>
> Is this ignorance
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:55:23 +0100, Roy Wright wrote:
On Feb 11, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:00:27 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote:
Yes, I can organize my files to the point where I rarely ever use
find. Just because you can't, is not a reason to slow down eve
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:04:38 +0100, walt wrote:
On 02/11/2010 01:35 PM, Zeerak Waseem wrote:
It just seems silly that if you want to use the newest version of kate,
kmail etc.
> that semantic-desktop is forced upon you, when you're not interested
in having the
> entire DE.
By the autho
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:19:43 +0100, Zeerak Waseem wrote:
> But I do find it silly, that the various applications that aren't
> dependent of the DE, to require a dependency of the DE. It just seems
> a bit backwards to me :-) I simply don't understand.
That just shows that they are still partial
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:53:04 +0100, Neil Bothwick
wrote:
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:19:43 +0100, Zeerak Waseem wrote:
But I do find it silly, that the various applications that aren't
dependent of the DE, to require a dependency of the DE. It just seems
a bit backwards to me :-) I simply don't
On Friday 12 February 2010 12:15:13 Zeerak Waseem wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:53:04 +0100, Neil Bothwick
>
> wrote:
> > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:19:43 +0100, Zeerak Waseem wrote:
> >> But I do find it silly, that the various applications that aren't
> >> dependent of the DE, to require a depend
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:53:04 +0100, Neil Bothwick
>
> wrote:
> > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:19:43 +0100, Zeerak Waseem wrote:
> >> But I do find it silly, that the various applications that aren't
> >> dependent of the DE, to require a dependency of
- Original Message
> From: Zeerak Waseem
> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:53:04 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:19:43 +0100, Zeerak Waseem wrote:
> >> But I do find it silly, that the various applications that aren't
> >> dependent of the DE, to require a dependency of the
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:01:22 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann
wrote:
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote:
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:53:04 +0100, Neil Bothwick
wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:19:43 +0100, Zeerak Waseem wrote:
>> But I do find it silly, that the various applications that
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:46:57 +0100, BRM wrote:
- Original Message
From: Zeerak Waseem
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:53:04 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:19:43 +0100, Zeerak Waseem wrote:
>> But I do find it silly, that the various applications that aren't
>> dependent
- Original Message
> From: Zeerak Waseem
> But then the question isn't whether there are a number of soft dependencies,
> but
> in the case of semantic-desktop whether -it- is a soft dependency. Like
> previously stated, I don't use kmail, nor do I intend to (I at least think I
> men
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:01:22 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann
>
> wrote:
> > On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote:
> >> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:53:04 +0100, Neil Bothwick
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:19:43 +0100, Zeerak W
On 2/12/2010 10:14 AM, Zeerak Waseem wrote:
But then the question isn't whether there are a number of soft
dependencies, but in the case of semantic-desktop whether -it- is a soft
dependency. Like previously stated, I don't use kmail, nor do I intend
to (I at least think I mentioned it). This is
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:51:01 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann
wrote:
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote:
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:01:22 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann
wrote:
> On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote:
>> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:53:04 +0100, Neil Bothwick
>>
>>
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> KDE apps use PHONON, so they don't have to deal with the underlying sound
> system.
> KDE apps use SOLID, so they don't need to care about hardware, hot plugin,
> etc.
> KDE apps use dbus so they can share code and easily communicate.
One thing I never understood
BRM wrote:
> It does not exist so that Kmail can index all the files on the
> system but for the opposite - so that Kmail can participate in
> the search by allowing the system to be able to search _its_ data.
Just to let me get the point right: kmail provides some kind of
search/date integratio
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> BRM wrote:
> > It does not exist so that Kmail can index all the files on the
> > system but for the opposite - so that Kmail can participate in
> > the search by allowing the system to be able to search _its_ data.
>
> Just to let me get the poi
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > KDE apps use PHONON, so they don't have to deal with the underlying sound
> > system.
> > KDE apps use SOLID, so they don't need to care about hardware, hot
> > plugin, etc.
> > KDE apps use dbus so they can share c
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> Another service?
Yes, a service that will be started only on-demand.
> Great - but then shut up about dbus.
Who the frak are you to tell me shut up ?!
cu
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Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> phonon: because phonon is part of qt? And qt is more than
> just a toolkit?
What is it then ? An own OS ? ;-o
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On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > phonon: because phonon is part of qt? And qt is more than
> > just a toolkit?
>
> What is it then ? An own OS ? ;-o
are you insisting going down the stupid road?
On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > Another service?
>
> Yes, a service that will be started only on-demand.
>
so I have to wait for the service to start first? Sounds even crappier.
> > Great - but then shut up about dbus.
>
> Who the frak are y
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