On 06/08/2015 20:28, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Thursday, August 06, 2015 02:59:09 PM Mick wrote:
>> On Wednesday 05 Aug 2015 22:47:43 Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>> On 05/08/2015 23:12, J. Roeleveld wrote:
On Wednesday, August 05, 2015 06:20:17 PM Mick wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 Aug 2015 11:47:58 A
On Thursday, August 06, 2015 02:59:09 PM Mick wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 Aug 2015 22:47:43 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > On 05/08/2015 23:12, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, August 05, 2015 06:20:17 PM Mick wrote:
> > >> On Wednesday 05 Aug 2015 11:47:58 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > >>> Much of what m
On Wednesday 05 Aug 2015 22:47:43 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 05/08/2015 23:12, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 05, 2015 06:20:17 PM Mick wrote:
> >> On Wednesday 05 Aug 2015 11:47:58 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >>> Much of what makes programming work has been dumbed down in recent
> >>> year
On Wednesday, August 05, 2015 12:47:58 PM Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Much of what makes programming work has been dumbed down in recent years
> so that employable persons without imagination[1] can have jobs and do
> something useful. I'm reminded of an old saw about PHP:
It may be that in recent year
On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 23:00:36 +0200
"J. Roeleveld" wrote:
> the following page should be required
> study for everyone starting with programming. (It's for PHP, but
> should work for ALL languages):
> http://code.tutsplus.com/tutorials/why-youre-a-bad-php-programmer--net-18384
Excellent article,
On 05/08/2015 23:12, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 05, 2015 06:20:17 PM Mick wrote:
>> On Wednesday 05 Aug 2015 11:47:58 Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>> Much of what makes programming work has been dumbed down in recent years
>>> so that employable persons without imagination[1] can have jobs
On Wednesday, August 05, 2015 06:20:17 PM Mick wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 Aug 2015 11:47:58 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > Much of what makes programming work has been dumbed down in recent years
> > so that employable persons without imagination[1] can have jobs and do
> > something useful. I'm reminded o
On Wednesday, August 05, 2015 12:47:58 PM Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 05/08/2015 10:18, Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
> >>> > > In this context does '&hostname' mean a-pointer-to-a-pointer-to-the-
> >>> > > charstring we actually need?
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Doesn't this code seem needlessly complicated?
>
On 05/08/2015 19:20, Mick wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 Aug 2015 11:47:58 Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> Much of what makes programming work has been dumbed down in recent years
>> so that employable persons without imagination[1] can have jobs and do
>> something useful. I'm reminded of an old saw about PHP:
On Wednesday 05 Aug 2015 11:47:58 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Much of what makes programming work has been dumbed down in recent years
> so that employable persons without imagination[1] can have jobs and do
> something useful. I'm reminded of an old saw about PHP:
>
> The nice thing about php is it le
On 05/08/2015 10:18, Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
> You can look at it like that, but more technically it's because C doesn't
> support out arguments, or reference arguments, or objects. All arguments are
> passed by value. You can return multiple values in a struct but it's not very
> convenient b
On Wednesday, August 05, 2015 6:18:07 AM Franz Fellner wrote:
> walt wrote:
> > On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 08:19:37 +0200
> > Franz Fellner wrote:
> >
> > > Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
> > > > On Monday, August 03, 2015 6:41:22 PM walt wrote:
> > > > > That line declares *hostname as a constant and then t
walt wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 08:19:37 +0200
> Franz Fellner wrote:
>
> > Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
> > > On Monday, August 03, 2015 6:41:22 PM walt wrote:
> > > > That line declares *hostname as a constant and then the statement
> > > > below proceeds to assign a value to the 'constant'. I
On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 7:56 PM, walt wrote:
> Let me give you one more example of syntax that I find unreasonable,
> and then I'll ask my *real* question, about which I hope you will have
> opinions.
>
> Okay, the statement I referred to above uses this notation:
>
> if (!link->network->hostname)
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 08:19:37 +0200
Franz Fellner wrote:
> Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
> > On Monday, August 03, 2015 6:41:22 PM walt wrote:
> > > That line declares *hostname as a constant and then the statement
> > > below proceeds to assign a value to the 'constant'. I wonder how
> > > many hour
Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
> On Monday, August 03, 2015 6:41:22 PM walt wrote:
> > That line declares *hostname as a constant and then the statement below
> > proceeds to assign a value to the 'constant'. I wonder how many hours
> > of frustration have been suffered by student programmers while try
On Monday, August 03, 2015 6:41:22 PM walt wrote:
> That line declares *hostname as a constant and then the statement below
> proceeds to assign a value to the 'constant'. I wonder how many hours
> of frustration have been suffered by student programmers while trying to
> understand the logic behi
On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 14:23:18 -0400
Mike Gilbert wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 11:16 AM, walt wrote:
> > On Sun, 2 Aug 2015 08:03:11 -0700
> > walt wrote:
> > Oops, journalctl tells me that systemd-networkd is segfaulting
> > repeatedly during boot. I'm reverting back to systemd-222-r1 until
On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 11:16 AM, walt wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Aug 2015 08:03:11 -0700
> walt wrote:
>
>> I've been running systemd for a long time without needing to enable
>> the dhcpcd service at boot time. Starting with systemd-224 that is no
>> longer true.
>
> Oops, journalctl tells me that syst
walt wrote:
>
> Oops, journalctl tells me that systemd-networkd is segfaulting
> repeatedly during boot.
systemd has become very picky on cflags; e.g. -DNDEBUG
and friends cause strange behaviour and segfaults.
On Sun, 2 Aug 2015 08:03:11 -0700
walt wrote:
> I've been running systemd for a long time without needing to enable
> the dhcpcd service at boot time. Starting with systemd-224 that is no
> longer true.
Oops, journalctl tells me that systemd-networkd is segfaulting
repeatedly during boot. I'm
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