> > > I think you're right about that. Can I configure eclean to wait a
> > > certain number of days since a package was removed before cleaning it?
> > > Even if I only run it once per week, it could remove a package that
> > > was updated yesterday that I find out I need tomorrow.
> > >
> > > -
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 08:05:24AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
> Of course, all this assumes that your version of portage supports
> @preserved-rebuild
>
> To use it, you simply notice the portage message right at the end of an
> emerge and run "emerge @preserved-rebuild" - it's just a regular
Can I recapitulate the routine? So it should be something like that:
layman -S
emerge --sync
emerge -DuN world
emerge @preserved-rebuild
emerge --depclean
revdep-rebuild
eclean distfiles -t=2w
eclean packages -t=2w
dispatch-conf
elogv
Right? But this script could not be run automatically because
On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:36:10 -0600, Bruce Hill wrote:
> After using Gentoo for close to two years, the only time/place I've
> ever even seen @preserved-rebuild is in this thread. Yet you say,
> "Portage will warn you when the set is [it] non-empty, telling you to
> run emerge @preserved-rebuild."
On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 08:05:24 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > is run every morning with my first cup of coffee. If something were
> > changed or left off that alias do you suppose this mysterious
> > @preserved-rebuild would be run?
>
> No, you would likely never see it. Your alias runs revdep-r
On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:36:10 -0600
Bruce Hill wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 04:48:24PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> >
> > > workstation ~ # emerge -a @preserved-rebuild
> > > emerge: 'preserved-rebuild' is an empty set
> > > emerge: no targets left after set expansion
> >
> > So you have no
On 12/11/2012 08:36 AM, Bruce Hill wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 04:48:24PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>>
>>> workstation ~ # emerge -a @preserved-rebuild
>>> emerge: 'preserved-rebuild' is an empty set
>>> emerge: no targets left after set expansion
>>
>> So you have nothing that needs rebuild
On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:36:10 -0600, Bruce Hill wrote:
> > So you have nothing that needs rebuilding. Portage will warn you when
> > the set is non-empty, telling you to run emerge @preserved-rebuild.
> > There is no need to run it at any other time.
>
> After using Gentoo for close to two years
On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 04:48:24PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>
> > workstation ~ # emerge -a @preserved-rebuild
> > emerge: 'preserved-rebuild' is an empty set
> > emerge: no targets left after set expansion
>
> So you have nothing that needs rebuilding. Portage will warn you when the
> set it
On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 16:30:33 -0800
Grant wrote:
> My unattended daily system maintenance procedure is like this:
>
> layman -S
> emerge --sync
> emerge -pvDuN world
> emerge -pv --depclean
> eclean -p distfiles
> eclean -p packages
>
> And then attended like this:
>
> emerge -DuN world
> revdep
On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 11:01:37 -0600, Bruce Hill wrote:
> > > What is @preserved-rebuild ?
> >
> > It is a portage set, hence the @ prefix, containing packages that
> > need to be rebuilt in order to link them against the installed
> > versions of libraries.
> >
> > > workstation ~ # emerge -a
On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 04:48:24PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > What is @preserved-rebuild ?
>
> It is a portage set, hence the @ prefix, containing packages that need to
> be rebuilt in order to link them against the installed versions of
> libraries.
>
> > workstation ~ # emerge -a @preserve
On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 07:18:42 -0600, Bruce Hill wrote:
> What is @preserved-rebuild ?
It is a portage set, hence the @ prefix, containing packages that need to
be rebuilt in order to link them against the installed versions of
libraries.
> workstation ~ # emerge -a @preserved-rebuild
> emerge: 'pr
On Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 05:20:36PM -0600, Dale wrote:
>
> That's been my experience too. I run @preserved-rebuild when it tells
> me to but revdep-rebuild rarely finds anything. Thing is, it has a time
> or two. It is best to run revdep-rebuild and be sure than not to and
> run the risk of not
Dale wrote:
> That's been my experience too. I run @preserved-rebuild when it tells
> me to but revdep-rebuild rarely finds anything. Thing is, it has a
> time or two. It is best to run revdep-rebuild and be sure than not to
> and run the risk of not being able to boot or some other problem that
>
> > BTW, what should I do about this:
> >
> > # revdep-rebuild -p
> > * Configuring search environment for revdep-rebuild
> >
> > * Checking reverse dependencies
> > * Packages containing binaries and libraries broken by a package
> > update
> > * will be emerged.
> >
> > * Collecting system b
On Saturday 08 December 2012 22:49:50 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> ... revdep-rebuild is still useful as a fallback, but the main reason
> I run it from my weekly system check script is as a sanity check. It
> rarely finds anything.
Not quite never, though. I still find it useful.
--
Rgds
Peter
Grant wrote:
> > > I think you're right about that. Can I configure eclean to wait a
> > > certain number of days since a package was removed before cleaning it?
> > > Even if I only run it once per week, it could remove a package that
> > > was updated yesterday that I find out I need tomorrow.
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 13:54:25 -0800, Grant wrote:
>
>> Got it. So @preserved-rebuild is meant to be a replacement for
>> revdep-rebuild
> No, it is a means of preventing the problems that revdep-rebuild fixes.
>
> If revdep-rebuild were a medicine, @preserved-rebuild would be
On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 13:54:25 -0800, Grant wrote:
> Got it. So @preserved-rebuild is meant to be a replacement for
> revdep-rebuild
No, it is a means of preventing the problems that revdep-rebuild fixes.
If revdep-rebuild were a medicine, @preserved-rebuild would be a vaccine.
Which you choose t
On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 13:54:25 -0800
Grant wrote:
> > > > So they are not really the same thing at all.I'm not saying
> > > > they're the same, I'm saying it looks like @preserved-rebuild
> > > > does a subset of the things revdep-rebuild does. Why run
> > > > @preserved-rebuild followed by revdep-
> > I think you're right about that. Can I configure eclean to wait a
> > certain number of days since a package was removed before cleaning it?
> > Even if I only run it once per week, it could remove a package that
> > was updated yesterday that I find out I need tomorrow.
> >
> > - Grant
>
>
>
> > > So they are not really the same thing at all.I'm not saying they're
> > > the same, I'm saying it looks like @preserved-rebuild does a subset
> > > of the things revdep-rebuild does. Why run @preserved-rebuild
> > > followed by revdep-rebuild if the end result is the same as running
> > > re
On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 13:07:28 -0800
Grant wrote:
> > So they are not really the same thing at all.I'm not saying they're
> > the same, I'm saying it looks like @preserved-rebuild does a subset
> > of the things revdep-rebuild does. Why run @preserved-rebuild
> > followed by revdep-rebuild if the e
> > > The logic is:
> > >
> > > Rebuild busted packages that portage already knows about
> > > (@preserved-rebuild), then get rid of oudated packages and finally
> > > revdep-rebuild to fix anything that --depclean broke.
> > >
> > > @preserved-rebuild is getting very good at what it does lately
>
On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:56:18 -0800
Grant wrote:
> > > My unattended daily system maintenance procedure is like this:
> > >
> > > layman -S
> > > emerge --sync
> > > emerge -pvDuN world
> > > emerge -pv --depclean
> > > eclean -p distfiles
> > > eclean -p packages
> > >
> > > And then attended like
On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:56:18 -0800, Grant wrote:
> > @preserved-rebuild is getting very good at what it does lately
> > (supported in all recent portage version including stable IIRC), as is
> > --depclean, so revdep-rebuild seldom finds anything to do these days.
> If revdep-rebuild does everythi
> I run depclean about once a month after a large update, usually KDE, qt
> or something like that. I sync and update about twice a week. I try to
> time mine to hit those important updates to things like KDE or
> something. I'm actually waiting on KDE 4.9.4 to hit the tree now. It
> should be
> > My unattended daily system maintenance procedure is like this:
> >
> > layman -S
> > emerge --sync
> > emerge -pvDuN world
> > emerge -pv --depclean
> > eclean -p distfiles
> > eclean -p packages
> >
> > And then attended like this:
> >
> >
> > revdep-rebuild
> > etc-update
> > elogv
> > emerge
> > > The first depclean is redundant, you haven't updated anything so it
> > > won't
> >> show anything useful. I only run depclean and revdep-rebuild weekly,I
> >> don't see a need to routinely do it more often, especially on slower
> >> systems. I do run eix-update and eix-update-remote after my
On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 20:04:30 -0800, Grant wrote:
> > The first depclean is redundant, you haven't updated anything so it
> > won't
>> show anything useful. I only run depclean and revdep-rebuild weekly,I
>> don't see a need to routinely do it more often, especially on slower
>> systems. I do run
Grant wrote:
> > > I think you're right about that. Can I configure eclean to wait a
> > > certain number of days since a package was removed before cleaning it?
> > > Even if I only run it once per week, it could remove a package that
> > > was updated yesterday that I find out I need tomorrow.
On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 16:30:33 -0800
Grant wrote:
> My unattended daily system maintenance procedure is like this:
>
> layman -S
> emerge --sync
> emerge -pvDuN world
> emerge -pv --depclean
> eclean -p distfiles
> eclean -p packages
>
> And then attended like this:
>
>
> revdep-rebuild
> etc-up
> > I think you're right about that. Can I configure eclean to wait a
> > certain number of days since a package was removed before cleaning it?
> > Even if I only run it once per week, it could remove a package that
> > was updated yesterday that I find out I need tomorrow.
> >
> > - Grant
>
>
>
Grant wrote:
>
> I think you're right about that. Can I configure eclean to wait a
> certain number of days since a package was removed before cleaning it?
> Even if I only run it once per week, it could remove a package that
> was updated yesterday that I find out I need tomorrow.
>
> - Grant
>> My unattended daily system maintenance procedure is like this:
>>
>> layman -S
>> emerge --sync
>> emerge -pvDuN world
>> emerge -pv --depclean
>> eclean -p distfiles
>> eclean -p packages
>>
>> And then attended like this:
>>
>> emerge -DuN world
>> revdep-rebuild
>> etc-update
>> elogv
>> emer
> > My unattended daily system maintenance procedure is like this:
> >
> > layman -S
> > emerge --sync
> > emerge -pvDuN world
> > emerge -pv --depclean
> > eclean -p distfiles
> > eclean -p packages
> >
> > And then attended like this:
> >
> > emerge -DuN world
> > revdep-rebuild
> > etc-update
>
Pandu Poluan wrote:
>
>
> There's an incantation that makes emerge download the source files but
> don't actually emerge them, yet. Will save a lot of time during
> attended sessions if your Internet connection is kind of not fast.
>
> Can someone help me refresh my mind?
>
> Rgds,
>
That would be
On Tue, Dec 04 2012, Pandu Poluan wrote:
> On Dec 5, 2012 7:34 AM, "Grant" wrote:
>>
>> My unattended daily system maintenance procedure is like this:
>>
>> layman -S
>> emerge --sync
>> emerge -pvDuN world
>> emerge -pv --depclean
>> eclean -p distfiles
>> eclean -p packages
>>
>> And then atten
On Dec 5, 2012 7:34 AM, "Grant" wrote:
>
> My unattended daily system maintenance procedure is like this:
>
> layman -S
> emerge --sync
> emerge -pvDuN world
> emerge -pv --depclean
> eclean -p distfiles
> eclean -p packages
>
> And then attended like this:
>
> emerge -DuN world
> revdep-rebuild
>
Grant wrote:
> My unattended daily system maintenance procedure is like this:
>
> layman -S
> emerge --sync
> emerge -pvDuN world
> emerge -pv --depclean
> eclean -p distfiles
> eclean -p packages
>
> And then attended like this:
>
> emerge -DuN world
> revdep-rebuild
> etc-update
> elogv
> em
Grant wrote:
> My unattended daily system maintenance procedure is like this:
>
> layman -S
> emerge --sync
> emerge -pvDuN world
> emerge -pv --depclean
> eclean -p distfiles
> eclean -p packages
>
> And then attended like this:
>
> emerge -DuN world
> revdep-rebuild
> etc-update
> elogv
> emerge
Why with the pretend option? Checking to see if it's needed?
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My unattended daily s
My unattended daily system maintenance procedure is like this:
layman -S
emerge --sync
emerge -pvDuN world
emerge -pv --depclean
eclean -p distfiles
eclean -p packages
And then attended like this:
emerge -DuN world
revdep-rebuild
etc-update
elogv
emerge --depclean
eclean distfiles
eclean package
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