[gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-14 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
Forgive me for being naive and maybe asking a question asked before; I have been away from active participation on this list for quite some time. I have done a lot of google searching and can not find any answer to the question of why is Gentoo 2006.1 the latest release? What happened to the

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-14 Thread deface
If you want a new release, just emerge --sync. :) On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 20:44 -0500, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > Forgive me for being naive and maybe asking a question asked before; I > have been away from active participation on this list for quite some > time. I have done a lot of google s

RE: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-14 Thread de Almeida, Valmor F.
> -Original Message- > > If you want a new release, just emerge --sync. :) About a month ago I --sync my systems and the available profile was still 2006.1. Maybe 2007.0 will arrive soon if not there already. > > On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 20:44 -0500, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-14 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Sonntag, 15. April 2007, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > The mailing list is still active, > but the lack of a current release seems to indicate that the Gentoo > project is no longer truly active. > > Thanks in advance, > > Tom Veldhouse a) gentoo is not about releases. b) the 1.4 release took

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-14 Thread Jesús Guerrero
El Sat, 14 Apr 2007 20:44:56 -0500 "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > Forgive me for being naive and maybe asking a question asked before; > I have been away from active participation on this list for quite > some time. I have done a lot of google searching and can not find > a

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-14 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Sonntag, 15. April 2007, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: The mailing list is still active, but the lack of a current release seems to indicate that the Gentoo project is no longer truly active. Thanks in advance, Tom Veldhouse a) gentoo is not about release

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-14 Thread Norberto Bensa
deface wrote: > If you want a new release, just emerge --sync. :) Not true. 2006.1 doesn't boot on my hardware. I needed to bootstrap on an old box, then swap hard drives. Not very friendly. We (I) need 2007.0 ASAP. Regards, Norberto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-14 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On 4/15/07, Norberto Bensa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: deface wrote: > If you want a new release, just emerge --sync. :) Not true. 2006.1 doesn't boot on my hardware. I needed to bootstrap on an old box, then swap hard drives. Not very friendly. We (I) need 2007.0 ASAP. Just get any old versi

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-14 Thread Dale
Norberto Bensa wrote: > Daniel da Veiga wrote: > >> On 4/15/07, Norberto Bensa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Not true. 2006.1 doesn't boot on my hardware. >>> > > ... > > >>> We (I) need 2007.0 ASAP. >>> >> Just get any old version (that works), >> > > That's the

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-15 Thread Jarry
Norberto Bensa wrote: Just get any old version (that works), That's the point. None works. The media needs kernel 2.6.18 or better. I had the similar experience: tried to install 2006.1 on new mobo, but sata controller could not be recognised (some via chpiset iirc). Had to buy extra some p-

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Thomas T. Veldhouse, > > a) gentoo is not about releases. > > > I understand that. BUT ... it was announced long ago that there was a > quarterly release plan starting in 2005. It was followed for only one > year? That's right. It was quickly discovered that forcing a quarterly rel

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-15 Thread Jesús Guerrero
El Sun, 15 Apr 2007 01:37:54 -0500 Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > Norberto Bensa wrote: > > Daniel da Veiga wrote: > > I can use Knoppix or Ubuntu, but that's not the point. > > Maybe some are not understanding the point he is making. If I > understand correctly, he needs a newer release

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-15 Thread Dale
Jesús Guerrero wrote: > El Sun, 15 Apr 2007 01:37:54 -0500 > Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > > >> Norberto Bensa wrote: >> >>> Daniel da Veiga wrote: >>> I can use Knoppix or Ubuntu, but that's not the point. >>> >> Maybe some are not understanding the point he is making. If I

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-16 Thread Crayon
On Sunday 15 April 2007 15:31, Jarry wrote: > I had the similar experience: tried to install 2006.1 on new mobo, > but sata controller could not be recognised (some via chpiset iirc). Ditto > Had to buy extra some p-ata drive, install gentoo on it, > update kernel, then sata-drive got recognised

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-16 Thread Dale
Crayon wrote: > > > As someone already pointed out, boot using any other livecd that > recognises the controller, then follow the usual gentoo install > instructions, remembering to config kernel for your sata controller. > > I had to do this to an Asus motherboard a little while back - yes it wa

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-16 Thread Crayon
On Monday 16 April 2007 16:05, Dale wrote: > But if your system has only one CD and not enough memory to load in > cache, you're in a pickle. I'm not sure why that would be a problem? My system only had one cdrom and I managed fine :) -- Crayon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-16 Thread Davi
Em Segunda 16 Abril 2007 05:19, Crayon escreveu: > On Monday 16 April 2007 16:05, Dale wrote: > > But if your system has only one CD and not enough memory to load in > > cache, you're in a pickle. > > I'm not sure why that would be a problem? My system only had one cdrom and > I managed fine :) I

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 16 April 2007, Davi wrote: > Em Segunda 16 Abril 2007 05:19, Crayon escreveu: > > On Monday 16 April 2007 16:05, Dale wrote: > > > But if your system has only one CD and not enough memory to load > > > in cache, you're in a pickle. > > > > I'm not sure why that would be a problem? My syst

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-16 Thread Hamie
On Sunday 15 April 2007 07:37, Dale wrote: > Norberto Bensa wrote: > > Daniel da Veiga wrote: > >> On 4/15/07, Norberto Bensa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Not true. 2006.1 doesn't boot on my hardware. > > > > ... > > > >>> We (I) need 2007.0 ASAP. > >> > >> Just get any old version (that works)

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-16 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 02:14:07 -0300 Norberto Bensa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > deface wrote: > > If you want a new release, just emerge --sync. :) > > Not true. 2006.1 doesn't boot on my hardware. I needed to bootstrap > on an old box, then swap hard drives. Not very friendly. > > We (I) need 20

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-16 Thread Ryan Sims
On 4/16/07, Dan Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 02:14:07 -0300 Norberto Bensa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > deface wrote: > > If you want a new release, just emerge --sync. :) > > Not true. 2006.1 doesn't boot on my hardware. I needed to bootstrap > on an old box, then swap

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-16 Thread Andrey Gerasimenko
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:10:27 +0400, Ryan Sims <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... As has been said, the installation CD does not need to be specifically a Gentoo cd, although it seems worth repeating that it _does_ have to support the same architecture. ... http://www.kernel-of-truth.net/downloads

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-16 Thread Dale
Andrey Gerasimenko wrote: > > I agree that "the installation CD does not need to be specifically a > Gentoo cd", but I believe that it should be always possible to use it > for installation, even when workarounds are available. The only > argument that explains why it is currently not the fact is t

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:26:20 +0400, Andrey Gerasimenko wrote: > It looks like everybody, me too, agrees that > it is a very good reason to switch to semi-annual releases, but > please note that the very fact that quarterly releases were started is > a proof that they are desirable. All it prove

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-17 Thread Rumen Yotov
Hi, On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:52:42 +0100 Hamie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 15 April 2007 07:37, Dale wrote: > > Norberto Bensa wrote: > > > Daniel da Veiga wrote: > > >> On 4/15/07, Norberto Bensa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> Not true. 2006.1 doesn't boot on my hardware. > > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-17 Thread Hamie
On Tuesday 17 April 2007 08:41, Rumen Yotov wrote: > Hi, [deleted] > > H > > Don't want to seem i recommend it, but you can try the Sabayon-miniCD > for a new install. > Don't know how actual the kernel/userspace are but in all cases newer > then 2006.1. > It's a Gentoo-based (slightly modified)

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-17 Thread Andrey Gerasimenko
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:50:23 +0400, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andrey Gerasimenko wrote: I agree that "the installation CD does not need to be specifically a Gentoo cd", but I believe that it should be always possible to use it for installation, even when workarounds are available. The on

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:26:23 +0400, Andrey Gerasimenko wrote: > I do not see how it is hard to create a minimal installation CD image > every time new hardware support is added into the kernel, Then do it. Open source gives you the opportunity to make things happen yourself instead of whining t

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-17 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > A major GCC update is the exception to this rule, but that is precisely > the sort of thing that needs extensive testing on a range of platforms > rather than a rushed release. > > That was what I was referring too. It would be time consuming to install then turn right a

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 05:33:18 -0500, Dale wrote: > > A major GCC update is the exception to this rule, but that is > > precisely the sort of thing that needs extensive testing on a range > > of platforms rather than a rushed release. > That was what I was referring too. It would be time consuming

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:30:14 +0400, Andrey Gerasimenko wrote: > >> I do not see how it is hard to create a minimal installation CD image > >> every time new hardware support is added into the kernel, > > > > Then do it. Open source gives you the opportunity to make things > > happen yourself inste

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-17 Thread Andrey Gerasimenko
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:08:49 +0400, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:26:23 +0400, Andrey Gerasimenko wrote: I do not see how it is hard to create a minimal installation CD image every time new hardware support is added into the kernel, Then do it. Open source

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-17 Thread Neil Walker
Hamie wrote: Hey thanks I'd never heard of it I'll give it a go If you want to install Sabayon and stay with it without ever updating anything until the next Sabayon release, fine - but don't ever think that Sabayon is a quick and easy way to a working Gentoo system, it most certainly is

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-17 Thread fire-eyes
Neil Walker wrote: Be lucky, Neil This is completely offtopic. But "Be lucky" made me think of the movie Demolition man, is this where you got it? In that case, the reply to that line was amusing :P -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-17 Thread Neil Walker
Andrey Gerasimenko wrote: I do not see how it is hard to create a minimal installation CD image every time new hardware support is added into the kernel, or new gcc version goes stable, or new portage version goes stable. How is any of that relevant to the minimal install CD? GGC, Portage, e

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-17 Thread Neil Walker
fire-eyes wrote: Neil Walker wrote: Be lucky, Neil This is completely offtopic. But "Be lucky" made me think of the movie Demolition man, is this where you got it? In that case, the reply to that line was amusing :P I've been using it since the early days of Fidonet. I don't think De

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-17 Thread William Kenworthy
On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 11:08 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: ... > These are irrelevant. As long as the CD boots, recognises your core > hardware - which really comes down to disk controllers and network > interfaces - and installs a working system, the rest can be updated > post-install. Unfortunately

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-17 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, April 16, 2007 11:48 pm, Alan McKinnon wrote: > To install gentoo, the minimum you require is a running kernel, a > network connection and a shell session. From there you chroot into the > directory that is going to become your /, unpack a portage tree and > binaries copies of some import

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-18 Thread Andrey Gerasimenko
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 00:11:21 +0400, Neil Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andrey Gerasimenko wrote: I do not see how it is hard to create a minimal installation CD image every time new hardware support is added into the kernel, or new gcc version goes stable, or new portage version goes sta

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-18 Thread Drew
> Once again, there should be some problem with my English. It is > official Gentoo release policy to have minimal, live, and platform > releases in sync. Posting a new image to forums is not that tightly > related to policies. No it's not, and I never suggested it was. As an Open Source project,

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-18 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 02:41:34 -0700 Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who'd have thought a Promise SATA300 TX4 would be unsupported in > 2006.1? In all honesty, it's probably not absolutely "unsupported". Switch your SATA controller to compatibility mode in BIOS, don't care for DMA, and it wi

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-18 Thread chris
On 4/18/07, Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Who'd have thought a Promise SATA300 TX4 would be unsupported in 2006.1? I'm running 2006.1 and my Promise SATA300TX4 worked fine on a new install. The kernel I started on was: 2.6.17-r8. I never changed anything in my BIOS or on teh controller i

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-19 Thread Jerry McBride
On Thursday 19 April 2007 12:55:57 am chris wrote: > On 4/18/07, Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Who'd have thought a Promise SATA300 TX4 would be unsupported in 2006.1? > > I'm running 2006.1 and my Promise SATA300TX4 worked fine on a new > install. The kernel I started on was: 2.6.17-r8. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-20 Thread chris
On 4/19/07, Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey Chris Would you take the time and post what motherboard the Supermicro is plugged into and whether you are running 32bit or 64bit Gentoo? Thank you, in advance. -- Jerry McBride -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Sure thing. :