Re: [gentoo-user] portage alternatives

2015-03-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 14/03/2015 23:49, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 8:32 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Correct. With most Linux package managers, everything is a package and everything has strict dependencies. You install the bits you want and the PM installs the bits it needs.

Re: [gentoo-user] portage alternatives

2015-03-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 15/03/2015 00:34, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: But let's consider this: what level of chaos would arise if @system were dropped? Surely the problem of tracking all deps would get so out of hand so quickly, that @system

Re: [gentoo-user] portage alternatives

2015-03-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: I don't follow. How do virtuals connect with @system? Are you suggesting separating @system out into several more narrowly defined virtuals? Essentially. I'm undecided on the wisdom of that approach. My own

Re: [gentoo-user] portage alternatives

2015-03-14 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 15/03/2015 00:34, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: But let's consider this: what level of chaos would arise if @system were dropped? Surely the

Re: [gentoo-user] portage alternatives

2015-03-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 8:32 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Correct. With most Linux package managers, everything is a package and everything has strict dependencies. You install the bits you want and the PM installs the bits it needs. Gentoo is one of the very few PMs that

Re: [gentoo-user] portage alternatives

2015-03-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: But let's consider this: what level of chaos would arise if @system were dropped? Surely the problem of tracking all deps would get so out of hand so quickly, that @system or something equivalent would immediately

Re: [gentoo-user] portage alternatives

2015-02-08 Thread Thomas Mueller
from Michael Vetter: just for fun I am reading about alternatives to portage. So far the most interesting I found are: paludis and pkgsrc. paludis mostly because it seems to come from some gentoo-like enviroment and pkgsrc because of the nice thought to have the same pkg files for multiple

Re: [gentoo-user] portage alternatives

2015-02-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 08/02/2015 11:54, Thomas Mueller wrote: from Michael Vetter: just for fun I am reading about alternatives to portage. So far the most interesting I found are: paludis and pkgsrc. paludis mostly because it seems to come from some gentoo-like enviroment and pkgsrc because of the nice

[gentoo-user] portage alternatives

2015-02-02 Thread Michael Vetter
Hello list, just for fun I am reading about alternatives to portage. So far the most interesting I found are: paludis and pkgsrc. paludis mostly because it seems to come from some gentoo-like enviroment and pkgsrc because of the nice thought to have the same pkg files for multiple OSes. Is

Re: [gentoo-user] portage alternatives

2015-02-02 Thread Bob Wya
Michael, I tried out paludis a few months ago. I do find Portage can be a bit slow. So I thought great - a C++ version of Portage! However cave does do much stricter checking and has much more verbose output than emerge (way too much - like eix I guess). I really gave it my best shot to migrate