gone" date in the 2030's or
even 2020's - and this is based on interpretations of recent data - not model
outputs. It seems to me the lesson is that the global models need retuning.
Ron
- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Caldeira"
To: "geoengineering"
http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/22/new-light-shed-on-north-pole-ice-trends/
The bottom line, expressed here before, is that no one should expect to find
much broad meaning in short-term variability in Arctic sea ice — in one
direction or the other. If there is a death spiral, expect a lo
last legs as they do
in the mid journey. Almost none.
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 13:04:34 -0400
Subject: Re: [geo] September sea-ice gone by end of century? (or much sooner)
From: rev...@gmail.com
To: kcalde...@gmail.com
CC: geoengineering@googlegroups.com
http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2010
At last some sanity.
From: geoengineering@googlegroups.com
[mailto:geoengineering@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Revkin
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 1:05 PM
To: kcalde...@gmail.com
Cc: geoengineering
Subject: Re: [geo] September sea-ice gone by end of century? (or much
sooner)
http
11 13:04:34 -0400
> Subject: Re: [geo] September sea-ice gone by end of century? (or much
sooner)
> From: rev...@gmail.com
> To: kcalde...@gmail.com
> CC: geoengineering@googlegroups.com
>
>
http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/22/new-light-shed-on-north-pole-ice-trends/
>
020's - and this is based on interpretations of
recent data - not model outputs. It seems to me the lesson is that
the global models need retuning.
Ron
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*From: *"Ken Caldeira"
*To: *"geoengineering&q
slowski has
>> supported 2013 as not being out of the question. (and still does)
>>
>> I don't believe we have the luxury of relying on a "gone" date in
>> the 2030's or even 2020's - and this is based on interpretations of
>> recent data
x27;s - and this is based on interpretations of
recent data - not model outputs. It seems to me the lesson is that
the global models need retuning.
Ron
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*From: *"Ken Caldeira"
*To: *"geoengineering"
*Sent: *Monday, Ju
s
>>>> year). The following 2008 cite is given in the above URL for a
>>>> Maslowski Ppt:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ees.hokudai.ac.jp/coe21/dc2008/DC/report/Maslowski.pdf
>>>>
>>>> His work doesn't show up in literature comp
t seems to me the lesson is that
the global models need retuning.
Ron
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*From: *"Ken Caldeira"
*To: *"geoengineering"
*Sent: *Monday, July 18, 2011 6:41:17 AM
*Subject: *[geo] September sea-ice gone by end of century
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