Re: Ongoing issue -- responding to 'skeptics'

2009-07-05 Thread Elizabeth De Santo
An interesting 'skeptics' view was aired in the UK a couple of years ago, called "The Great Global Warming Swindle" which blamed climate change on sunspots, inter alia and questioned the underlying science:  http://www.channel4.com/science/microsites/G/great_global_warming_swindle/ I don't know

A reminder...

2009-07-05 Thread Michael Maniates
Hello All, Just a gentle reminder that when you post a message to the list, it goes out to ~ 350 people who already get wy too much email. And, thus, while I don't wish to stifle the rich conversations we're having here (the "skeptics" exchange being the most recent), I do ask that you con

Re: Ongoing issue -- responding to 'skeptics'

2009-07-05 Thread Graham Smart
Yes, it's interesting to see how the 'polluter pays' argument (developed countries put the vast majority of the GHGs currently in the atmosphere up there as they industrialized, and so should bear the brunt of international efforts to reduce use of fossil fuels) and the 'per capita' argument (th

Re: Ongoing issue -- responding to 'skeptics'

2009-07-05 Thread Deb Ranjan Sinha (Gmail)
And please add in the other group of 'skeptics' one would encounter in developing countries, those pro-growth enthusiasts who don't want anything coming between their playing catch-up with the industrialized North. China and India certainly fall in this category. Deb. - Original Message --

Ongoing issue: who are we?

2009-07-05 Thread Karen T Litfin
Dear Collaborators, Thank you! Your thoughtful exchange has broadened my horizons. At the risk of adding more words to an already lengthy conversation and sounding more like a mystic than a social scientist, I want to add to Simon's critical insight. Not only is humanity entering a new cultur

Re: Ongoing issue -- responding to 'skeptics'

2009-07-05 Thread Dale W Jamieson
dear kate (et al), i was lecturing in brazil a couple of weeks ago and the 'is it really true' question came up with surprising frequency. turns out that a very prestigious figure, the former rector of the university of brazilia, is a climate change denier. there have been strong replies to h

Re: Ongoing issue -- responding to 'skeptics'

2009-07-05 Thread Adam Henne
On the subject of skepticism and its uneven distribution, see the July issue of *Public Understanding of Science* 18(4): Believing is seeing: laypeople's views of future socio-economic and climate change in England and in Italy Irene Lorenzoni and Mike Hulme Public Understanding of Science 2009;18

Re: Ongoing issue -- responding to 'skeptics'

2009-07-05 Thread Kate O'Neill
Hi Peter (and everyone, thanks for the discussion), One thing you say below caught me by surprise: that skepticism is "almost exclusively a global North position". Is this true? Can you elucidate? It's certainly not intuitively obvious, although I would guess that our boys are the loudest s

Re: Ongoing issue -- responding to 'skeptics'

2009-07-05 Thread Olivia Bina
Dear all, What a great discussion thread. I have noted many thoughts and readings for the summer. I have also used Deb’s reminder of ‘cherry picking’ and here is the result: Howard’s recommendation: ‘I assign Bjorn Lomborg's book which is an easy read and while not denying climate science