Re: Frees/wan setup problems

2003-02-27 Thread Cole Tuininga
On Wed, 2003-02-26 at 17:16, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: On Wed, 2003-02-26 at 15:03, Cole Tuininga wrote: But not via the VPN: traceroute 192.168.2.1 traceroute to 192.168.2.1 (192.168.2.1), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 * * * (etc) What about from the subnet to the gateway?

Future meeting topics

2003-02-27 Thread Mark Komarinski
Here's a few ideas, some of them relevant to what I'm going through and ideas from last night's meeting: Debugging kernel oopses (there's a lot of slides on the topic, but there they reference what the speaker is saying) LVM on single-drive machines (install, use, advantages, etc.) Writing

Re: Linux booting problems

2003-02-27 Thread Kenny Donahue
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:30:58 EST Kenny Donahue said: ext3 comes up then it try's to load the ext3 module. [nit-picking: tries not try's :) ] it fails with undefined symbols in jdb.o and ext3.o. Why is it trying to load modules that are suposed

Re: Linux booting problems

2003-02-27 Thread Mark Komarinski
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 03:50:49PM -0500, Kenny Donahue wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recommend not doing the make install, rather, manually copying arch/arch/boot/bzImage to /boot/vmlinuz-whatever and editing the lilo.conf to add a new kernel. Then run lilo to recognize this new

Re: Linux booting problems

2003-02-27 Thread Kenny Donahue
Mark Komarinski wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 03:50:49PM -0500, Kenny Donahue wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recommend not doing the make install, rather, manually copying arch/arch/boot/bzImage to /boot/vmlinuz-whatever and editing the lilo.conf to add a new kernel. Then run lilo

Re: Linux booting problems

2003-02-27 Thread pll
In a message dated: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 16:09:50 EST mike ledoux said: Yes. ext3 depends on jbd. If you didn't compile in jbd, that explains why it is looking for the module; if you didn't build the module, that explains the error. I sit corrected :) It's been a while since I looked at a kernel

Re: Linux booting problems

2003-02-27 Thread pll
In a message dated: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 16:05:26 EST Kenny Donahue said: The make install claims that it modifies lilo.conf but it doesn't. It's for precisely this reason I stopped using 'make install'. My main questions was why was it trying to load modules when I built it into the kernel?

Re: Linux booting problems

2003-02-27 Thread Kenny Donahue
mike ledoux wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 04:05:26PM -0500, Kenny Donahue wrote: My main questions was why was it trying to load modules when I built it into the kernel? I looked at modules.conf. that's ok. I will look in modules.dep after I'm

Re: Linux booting problems

2003-02-27 Thread Bayard R. Coolidge
At the risk of sounding like a smart aleck, I would very strongly suggest that anyone building a test kernel like this on an i386-based system, do so by doing a 'make bzdisk' and have it expectorate the kernel under test onto a floppy. This will help reduce the finger-pointing around LILO and

'make bzSomethingOtherThanOnAFloppy [was Re: Linux booting problems ]

2003-02-27 Thread pll
In a message dated: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 16:33:01 EST Bayard R. Coolidge said: At the risk of sounding like a smart aleck, I would very strongly suggest that anyone building a test kernel like this on an i386-based system, do so by doing a 'make bzdisk' and have it expectorate the kernel under

Re: 'make bzSomethingOtherThanOnAFloppy [was Re: Linux booting problems]

2003-02-27 Thread Bayard R. Coolidge
So, when this happens, and we're all living in a floppy-less world, how do then do things like 'make bzdisk' ? Beats me, although to be honest, I've had the same problem on Alpha for a couple of years, although it's been months since I've booted my Alpha, much less built a kernel for it.

Eric Raymond's writings.

2003-02-27 Thread David Richter
Has anyone noticed that the site that once contained Eric Raymond's writings: www.tuxedo.org/~esr/ is no longer accessable via the web. The link is greeted with a script that redirects one to a selection of random sites dealing with Open Source. Although Mr. Raymonds writings were always

Re: Linux booting problems

2003-02-27 Thread John Abreau
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kenny Donahue [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ok deeep breath. I'm ready to though Linux out. I've been fighting with a Linux kernel build for a while now. I'm getting very angry. I can load a Redhat 7.2 distribution and everything works. I need

Re: Eric Raymond's writings.

2003-02-27 Thread Kevin D. Clark
David Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Has anyone noticed that the site that once contained Eric Raymond's writings: www.tuxedo.org/~esr/ is no longer accessable via the web. The link is greeted with a script that redirects one to a selection of random sites dealing with Open

Re: Linux booting problems

2003-02-27 Thread Cole Tuininga
It's been a while since I've played with RedHat, but IIRC, when using a stock kernel, you have to uncomment the line in the make file that points the image to be placed in /boot... -- Things are fine, the upcoming semester approaches like a brick wall and we're in a 1962 Corvair with no

Re: 'make bzSomethingOtherThanOnAFloppy [was Re: Linux booting problems]

2003-02-27 Thread Jason Stephenson
I use grub and I remember from using LILO that it is very easy to set up the menu to select multiple kernel versions. So, you build your experimental kernel, store it next to your main kernel, add a lilo.conf or grub.conf entry for your new kernel, then reboot and choose the experimental

Colors INSIDE of windows?

2003-02-27 Thread Bill Freeman
Bill Sconce asks about things like application color choices. Bill, Traditionally, these things were X resources. There's a whole boodle of stuff somewhere in the X documntation about class name versus item name, etc., and how to wildcard things so that you can have all xterms do this,

Re: 'make bzSomethingOtherThanOnAFloppy [was Re: Linux bootingproblems ]

2003-02-27 Thread bscott
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, at 4:45pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a stupid question. Dell recently announced that they're getting rid of floppy drives in their systems. Just FYI, what they actually announced was that they are making the floppy drive an option on their Precision Workstation