Re: [gnhlug-jobs] [NH Jobs List] Job: Network/Database Administrator - Manchester

2007-06-29 Thread VirginSnow
From: Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 00:08:57 -0400 Cc: gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin D. Clark) Date: 28 Jun 2007 17:22:22 -0400 From: Joe Redshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [NH Jobs List] Job:

Re: [gnhlug-jobs] [NH Jobs List] Job: Network/Database Administrator - Manchester

2007-06-29 Thread Travis Roy
If you are interested, please e-mail me a formal resume attached to a Word Document and then we can set up a time to speak. If you know Is this a joke? Is this solicitation meant seriously? By Word Document they usually mean something I can open in Word, that's formatted, and I can run my

Re: [gnhlug-jobs] [NH Jobs List] Job: Network/Database Administrator - Manchester

2007-06-29 Thread Lori Nagel
Free software is for everyone, not just nerds and geeks. If someone can use Word, they can use free replacements such as OpenOffice.org. For companies, it does not make sense to spend money on proprietary software, especially when free replacements are already available.

Re: [gnhlug-jobs] [NH Jobs List] Job: Network/Database Administrator - Manchester

2007-06-29 Thread Bruce Dawson
What bothers me about this is... TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO POST: address your message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO HAVE FRIENDS JOIN: tell them to visit http://www.nhjobslist.com/ THE ARCHIVES: http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/nhjobslist/messages Yahoo! Groups Links

Re: [gnhlug-jobs] [NH Jobs List] Job: Network/Database Administrator - Manchester

2007-06-29 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Bruce Dawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hope he didn't subscribe our jobs list to nhjobslist.com! (I guess we'll find out if he did). No, he did not. I simply manually forwarded this mail to the gnhlug-jobs list, because I genuinely thought that somebody subscribed to this list might find

Re: [gnhlug-jobs] [NH Jobs List] Job: Network/Database Administrator - Manchester

2007-06-29 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 05:29 -0700, Lori Nagel wrote: Free software is for everyone, not just nerds and geeks. If someone can use Word, they can use free replacements such as OpenOffice.org. For companies, it does not make sense to spend money on proprietary software, especially when free

Re: [gnhlug-jobs] [NH Jobs List] Job: Network/Database Administrator - Manchester

2007-06-29 Thread Bruce Dawson
Kevin D. Clark wrote: Bruce Dawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hope he didn't subscribe our jobs list to nhjobslist.com! (I guess we'll find out if he did). No, he did not. I simply manually forwarded this mail to the gnhlug-jobs list, because I genuinely thought that somebody

Re: [gnhlug-jobs] [NH Jobs List] Job: Network/Database Administrator - Manchester

2007-06-29 Thread David J Berube
Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: I think you are free to ignore those ads, but I would hate to block a potential job for a FOSS person just because the format requested is not open. I think that choice should be up to the potential applicant. I will also note that OO both reads and writes .doc

Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Warren Luebkeman
I asked for a quote on a server yesterday from our hardware provider, and the sales guy told me about a great new deal. For the same price as a Dual Core, 2 Ghz Xeon processor, I can get a Quad Core 1.6ghz Xeon processor. My first impression was four must be better than two, but is it really?

Re: [gnhlug-jobs] [NH Jobs List] Job: Network/Database Administrator - Manchester

2007-06-29 Thread Kevin D. Clark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Looking for help they are indeed. For starters, someone should (politely, if necessary) inform Mr. R[] that Linux is not a Windows program... I volunteer *you* and the other poster who suggested that we should disallow job postings that asked for resumes in

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Tom Buskey
On 6/29/07, Warren Luebkeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked for a quote on a server yesterday from our hardware provider, and the sales guy told me about a great new deal. For the same price as a Dual Core, 2 Ghz Xeon processor, I can get a Quad Core 1.6ghz Xeon processor. My first

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Warren Luebkeman
On Friday 29 June 2007 10:08 am, Tom Buskey wrote: On 6/29/07, Warren Luebkeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked for a quote on a server yesterday from our hardware provider, and the sales guy told me about a great new deal. For the same price as a Dual Core, 2 Ghz Xeon processor, I

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Derek Atkins
Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A few points: The Macintosh community had debates in the past about SMP vs single. Generally they think a dual 500 MHz is roughly like a single 700MHz. From that subjective information, I'd say more cores that are slightly slower are better. This is

Re: [gnhlug-jobs] [NH Jobs List] Job: Network/Database Administrator - Manchester

2007-06-29 Thread Carl Helmers
Let me add my own 2 cents re comparing FOSS and MS software: I personally have been using linux on and off since the mid 1990's when I started attending GNHLUG then MonadLUG meetings 1995-2002 or so... I now live in western NY near Rochester NY now, after several years spent moving from

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Christopher Chisholm
Warren Luebkeman wrote: I asked for a quote on a server yesterday from our hardware provider, and the sales guy told me about a great new deal. For the same price as a Dual Core, 2 Ghz Xeon processor, I can get a Quad Core 1.6ghz Xeon processor. My first impression was four must be better

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
Warren, These days the Linux kernel scales fairly linearly for eight processors, so the real questions are: o on the eight-core system, how often would you keep the fifth to eighth core busy? o on the four-core system, how often would you have processes in the run queue looking for a processors

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Christopher Chisholm
Derek Atkins wrote: Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A few points: The Macintosh community had debates in the past about SMP vs single. Generally they think a dual 500 MHz is roughly like a single 700MHz. From that subjective information, I'd say more cores that are slightly

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Michael ODonnell
Slashdot just mentioned this review of various processors: http://techreport.com/reviews/2007q2/pricevperf/index.x?pg=1 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/

Re: [gnhlug-jobs] [NH Jobs List] Job: Network/Database Administrator - Manchester

2007-06-29 Thread brk
Are you speaking from theory, or experience? I've got a good proportion of our company on Mac's now (not linux, but it illustrates a point). While the transitions have been fairly painless, even with Office for Mac it is a less than ideal process. People are used to doing things a certain

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 09:53:05 -0400 Warren Luebkeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked for a quote on a server yesterday from our hardware provider, and the sales guy told me about a great new deal. For the same price as a Dual Core, 2 Ghz Xeon processor, I can get a Quad Core 1.6ghz Xeon

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread warlord
Quoting Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Most of the previous posts have pretty well answered most everything. As Maddog points out, Linux scales well up to 8 CPUs, but much work is being done with 32, 64, and 128 by IBM, HP, and SGI. In your case, it's not so much that you are going to

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Tom Buskey
On 6/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Most of the previous posts have pretty well answered most everything. As Maddog points out, Linux scales well up to 8 CPUs, but much work is being done with 32, 64, and 128 by IBM, HP, and SGI.

Re: [gnhlug-jobs] [NH Jobs List] Job: Network/Database Administrator - Manchester

2007-06-29 Thread Paul Lussier
Lori Nagel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Free software is for everyone, not just nerds and geeks. If someone can use Word, they can use free replacements such as OpenOffice.org. For companies, it does not make sense to spend money on proprietary software, especially when free

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Warren Luebkeman
On Friday 29 June 2007 1:27 pm, Jerry Feldman wrote: On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 09:53:05 -0400 Warren Luebkeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked for a quote on a server yesterday from our hardware provider, and the sales guy told me about a great new deal. For the same price as a Dual Core, 2

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Warren Luebkeman
On Friday 29 June 2007 11:58 am, Christopher Chisholm wrote: Derek Atkins wrote: Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A few points: The Macintosh community had debates in the past about SMP vs single. Generally they think a dual 500 MHz is roughly like a single 700MHz. From that

Re: [gnhlug-jobs] [NH Jobs List] Job: Network/Database Administrator - Manchester

2007-06-29 Thread Travis Roy
On Jun 29, 2007, at 2:25 PM, Paul Lussier wrote: Lori Nagel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Free software is for everyone, not just nerds and geeks. If someone can use Word, they can use free replacements such as OpenOffice.org. For companies, it does not make sense to spend money on

Re: [gnhlug-jobs] [NH Jobs List] Job: Network/Database Administrator - Manchester

2007-06-29 Thread Paul Lussier
Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Jun 29, 2007, at 2:25 PM, Paul Lussier wrote: However, many people use computers to get a job done, and they have spent 15 or 20 *years* learning a particular environment. It makes even *less* sense for them to throw out that 15 or 20 years of

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Warren Luebkeman
This is the motherboard I'm looking at: http://www.intel.com/design/servers/boards/s5000PSL/index.htm Here is the info on the front side bus. It says 1066 / 1333ยน MHz dual independent buses, which sounds pretty good. What do you guys think?

re: RAID Controllers and Linux: Ugh!

2007-06-29 Thread Warren Luebkeman
Since we are on the subject of servers, I am now dealing with an issue that I always face when using a new server configuration: Is the RAID Card supported in Linux? I usually like to go with Adaptec RAID cards because they provide Linux driver sources so we can compile the driver ourselves.

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:19:23 -0400 Warren Luebkeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to the salesman the Quad Core has more cache, so I guess I'm good there. You can always look up the size either on Intel or the Tech Report article has some listed.

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:50:43 -0400 Warren Luebkeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the motherboard I'm looking at: http://www.intel.com/design/servers/boards/s5000PSL/index.htm Unless I read it wrong, this board takes a single multi-core CPU. -- Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boston

Re: RAID Controllers and Linux: Ugh!

2007-06-29 Thread Chip Marshall
On 6/29/07, Warren Luebkeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm wondering if you know of any hardware companies that sell server configurations that have REAL Linux support, which basically means all the hardware will work with any Linux distro, vs. just Redhat and Suse? It would be great to be able

Re: RAID Controllers and Linux: Ugh!

2007-06-29 Thread Tom Buskey
On 6/29/07, Warren Luebkeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since we are on the subject of servers, I am now dealing with an issue that I always face when using a new server configuration: Is the RAID Card supported in Linux? I usually like to go with Adaptec RAID cards because they provide Linux

Re: [gnhlug-jobs] [NH Jobs List] Job: Network/Database Administrator - Manchester

2007-06-29 Thread Travis Roy
Why does their ignorance of file formats constiture them as being a goof? Can you explain the difference between the EFA and the MSCI EAFE ? If not, does that make you a goof? Just because someone is ignorant of something is not a license to deride them or call them names. Please think

Re: RAID Controllers and Linux: Ugh!

2007-06-29 Thread Warren Luebkeman
Coincidently I have ordered servers from Thinkmate before, they are who I used to use. I may just switch back for that reason. It doesn't look like 3Ware has an SAS RAID card for sale yet. However, from Thinkmate I can still buy SCSI cards (Bytespeed doesn't sell them anymore), so I could

Re: [gnhlug-jobs] [NH Jobs List] Job: Network/Database Administrator - Manchester

2007-06-29 Thread Ray Cote
At 9:13 AM -0400 6/29/07, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: I will also note that OO both reads and writes .doc format. Indeed, it reads .doc format a heck of a lot better than it reads .rtf format generated by Word. --Ray -- Raymond Cote Appropriate Solutions, Inc. PO Box 458 ~ Peterborough, NH

Hardware vs software RAID (was: RAID Controllers and Linux)

2007-06-29 Thread Ben Scott
Subject line changed to reflect threadjack. On 6/29/07, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used to be all for hardware raid but my thinking has changed over the years. I prefer software RAID that the OS supports w/o extra drivers There's no doubt that both have their pluses and minuses.

Re: [gnhlug-jobs] [NH Jobs List] Job: Network/Database Administrator - Manchester

2007-06-29 Thread Thomas Charron
On 6/29/07, Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why does their ignorance of file formats constiture them as being a goof? Can you explain the difference between the EFA and the MSCI EAFE ? If not, does that make you a goof? Just because someone is ignorant of something is not a

[Fwd: Apress Seeks New Reviews!]

2007-06-29 Thread Ted Roche
Original Message Subject: Apress Seeks New Reviews! Date: 29 Jun 2007 16:05:17 -0700 From: Apress User Group Liaison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apress Seeks New Reviewers! Apress is actively seeking fresh voices to write about our books. As a publisher, we rely on independent writers

Re: VPN recommendations?

2007-06-29 Thread Ted Roche
Ben Scott wrote: Define access his office network. After all, it's unlikely your client actually cares about his office network, per se. What he really wants is probably something like open these Excel spreadsheets and Word docs, or do QuickBooks data entry or similar things.

Re: RAID Controllers and Linux: Ugh!

2007-06-29 Thread Tom Buskey
On 6/29/07, Warren Luebkeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have setup a software RAID once in Debian, however I was under the impression that hardware raid was the way to go because the recovery is better. I'm using RAID 1, so I need to make sure the system doesn't go down if a hard drive

Re: VPN recommendations?

2007-06-29 Thread Ben Scott
On 6/29/07, Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Define access his office network. Exactly the response I needed, thanks. You never did answer my question. What is this guy looking to *do*? That being said, I find OpenVPN does really, really well. It's really easy to install. Define

Hardware vs software RAID (was: RAID Controllers and Linux)

2007-06-29 Thread Ben Scott
On 6/29/07, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Software RAID in Linux handles this quite well. The process was: * see the drive fail in logs One thing I liked about the MegaRAID setups we had was that the steps were: Hear loud beeping coming from the buzzer on the card Note flashing red

Re: [gnhlug-jobs] [NH Jobs List] Job: Network/Database Administrator - Manchester

2007-06-29 Thread Paul Lussier
Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was speaking of my experience of recruiters I've dealt with, both looking for, and applying for jobs. They tend to have no idea what they're doing and throw as many people at as many jobs as possible. These people, in my opinion, are goofs. You talk to

Re: Hardware vs software RAID (was: RAID Controllers and Linux)

2007-06-29 Thread Tom Buskey
On 6/29/07, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/29/07, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Software RAID in Linux handles this quite well. The process was: * see the drive fail in logs One thing I liked about the MegaRAID setups we had was that the steps were: Hear loud beeping

Re: [gnhlug-jobs] [NH Jobs List] Job: Network/Database Administrator - Manchester

2007-06-29 Thread Dan Jenkins
Paul Lussier wrote: Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was speaking of my experience of recruiters I've dealt with, both looking for, and applying for jobs. They tend to have no idea what they're doing and throw as many people at as many jobs as possible. These people, in my opinion, are

Re: VPN recommendations?

2007-06-29 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Jun 28, 2007, at 15:45, Ted Roche wrote: Has anyone got recommendations other than the OpenVPN Ken showed off, horror stories, great experiences? I just replaced my DD-WRT box with a pfSense (FreeBSD/m0n0wall- derived) box last night to accomplish a similar task. I've installed several

Re: VPN recommendations?

2007-06-29 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Jun 28, 2007, at 18:22, Ben Scott wrote: Tunneling TCP/IP over TCP (with or without a VPN) can be a performance disaster. Somebody wrote a considered harmful paper about this once on the net and everybody believes him. On the other hand, I've built a product using this kind of

Re: Dual Core or Quad Core?

2007-06-29 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Jun 29, 2007, at 13:27, Jerry Feldman wrote: The 1.6Ghz vs. 2.0 Ghz is minuscule, but make sure you don't get less cache. Yeah, what Jerry said - and make sure you're not losing memory bus speed either. I've been shocked how important memory speed is to tasks like this. I'd probably

Re: RAID Controllers and Linux: Ugh!

2007-06-29 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Jun 29, 2007, at 17:06, Tom Buskey wrote: What if the RAID card dies? Can you get a replacement that can read the RAID disks you have now? Well, that's the real trick, now isn't it? In high-uptime-requirement sites, I require one of the following: * cluster of servers * software

Re: VPN recommendations?

2007-06-29 Thread Thomas Charron
On 6/29/07, Bill McGonigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 28, 2007, at 15:45, Ted Roche wrote: I just replaced my DD-WRT box with a pfSense (FreeBSD/m0n0wall- derived) box last night to accomplish a similar task. I've installed several for commercial accounts. It even does hot failover.