Re: [OT] List topics (was Re: Help kill the Surveillance State Bill)

2005-05-15 Thread Fred
On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 15:41 -0400, Bill McGonigle wrote: > Let's just make a list rule that if you post OT stuff without [OT] in > the subject then you're asking for us to see if you have a currently > patched version of OpenSSL on your server. Simply enforcing [OT] > should make most everybody

Re: [OT] List topics (was Re: Help kill the Surveillance State Bill)

2005-05-15 Thread Bill McGonigle
Let's just make a list rule that if you post OT stuff without [OT] in the subject then you're asking for us to see if you have a currently patched version of OpenSSL on your server. Simply enforcing [OT] should make most everybody happy. I'll start the ball rolling with a procmail recipe: :0 ^

Re: KILLTHREAD: Re: [OT] List topics (was Re: Help kill the Surveillance State Bill)

2005-05-15 Thread Benjamin Scott
On May 12 at 12:34am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I'm going to officially request a KILLTHREAD on this topic This thread's grown six heads, four arms, eighteen legs, and just gotten way out of control All in favor, type: !kill -TERM $PPID Okay, but what will that do%+&$NO CARRIER __

Re: List topics (was Re: Help kill the Surveillance State Bill)

2005-05-15 Thread Benjamin Scott
On May 11 at 2:28pm, Jeff Kinz wrote: Shitting on the floor is doing what comes naturally. Discussions about the impacts of technology do come about naturally as part of discussions about technology. The "SOTF" point is irrelevant and raising it does no one credit. It is not irrelevant, althoug

Re: List topics (was Re: Help kill the Surveillance State Bill)

2005-05-12 Thread Fred
Numberwhun wrote: Derek Martin wrote: having topic police rarely helps... Ok, so what about having it posted to the "GNHLUG Off Topic" mailing list that was started a few months ago. Personally there have been OT posts here to the main list, but nobody has bothered to post them there. I thin

KILLTHREAD: Re: [OT] List topics (was Re: Help kill the Surveillance State Bill)

2005-05-11 Thread aluminumsulfate
Okay, I'm going to officially request a KILLTHREAD on this topic This thread's grown six heads, four arms, eighteen legs, and just gotten way out of control All in favor, type: !kill -TERM $PPID ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@m

Re: [OT] List topics (was Re: Help kill the Surveillance State Bill)

2005-05-11 Thread Michael ODonnell
The signal on this channel is Linux; the more your transmissions stray from Linux, the more they qualify as noise. High S/N ratio is good, low is bad. This channel has historically had relatively high S/N ratio and that is its primary value, the reason we gather here. Sadly, that is precisely

Re: List topics (was Re: Help kill the Surveillance State Bill)

2005-05-11 Thread Jeff Kinz
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 08:13:26PM -0400, David Ecklein wrote: > One who would follow Ben's apparent precedent here might well ask "who the > h-e-double-toothpicks is Ben"? But everyone on the list knows that Ben can > do, and usually does, better than "SOTF". In my opinion, the only thing > wors

Re: List topics (was Re: Help kill the Surveillance State Bill)

2005-05-11 Thread David Ecklein
rom a fire hose! Dave E. - Original Message - From: "Jeff Kinz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ben Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 2:28 PM Subject: Re: List topics (was Re: Help kill the Surveillance State Bill) > On Wed, May 11

Re: List topics (was Re: Help kill the Surveillance State Bill)

2005-05-11 Thread Jeff Kinz
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 04:57:07PM -0400, Tom Buskey wrote: > On 5/11/05, Jeff Kinz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 03:10:56PM -0400, Tom Buskey wrote: > > > Blah blah blah. > > > > > > > > > > > > /dev/null> > > > *sigh* > > > > > > If that was directed at me, persona

Re: List topics (was Re: Help kill the Surveillance State Bill)

2005-05-11 Thread Jeff Kinz
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 03:10:56PM -0400, Tom Buskey wrote: > Blah blah blah. > > > > /dev/null> > *sigh* *sigh* -- Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.or

Re: List topics (was Re: Help kill the Surveillance State Bill)

2005-05-11 Thread Tom Buskey
Blah blah blah. /dev/null> *sigh* ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss

Re: List topics (was Re: Help kill the Surveillance State Bill)

2005-05-11 Thread Jeff Kinz
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 01:12:01PM -0400, Ben Scott wrote: > [The order of quotations has been re-arranged for editorial purposes.] > Derek: > > People are going to do it anyway, and it's NOT about being rude, and it's > > NOT > > about being irresponsible. It's about doing what comes natural i

Re: List topics (was Re: Help kill the Surveillance State Bill)

2005-05-11 Thread Ben Scott
On 5/10/05, Derek Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think this really misses the point, which was that people want to > discuss them here, with this group of people. That is, apparently, incorrect. A small number of people want to assert their opinions on a given subject, repeatedly. A s

Re: List topics (was Re: Help kill the Surveillance State Bill)

2005-05-11 Thread Ben Scott
[The order of quotations has been re-arranged for editorial purposes.] On 5/10/05, Derek Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Note that as with most political issues that surface on the list, this > topic IS at least tangentially related -- it's about the politics of > technology. That particul

Re: List topics (was Re: Help kill the Surveillance State Bill)

2005-05-10 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 09:57:13PM -0400, Numberwhun wrote: > Derek Martin wrote: > > >having topic police rarely helps... > > > > Ok, so what about having it posted to the "GNHLUG Off Topic" mailing > list that was started a few months ago. Personally there have been OT > posts here to the

Re: List topics (was Re: Help kill the Surveillance State Bill)

2005-05-10 Thread Numberwhun
Derek Martin wrote: having topic police rarely helps... Ok, so what about having it posted to the "GNHLUG Off Topic" mailing list that was started a few months ago. Personally there have been OT posts here to the main list, but nobody has bothered to post them there. I think it was a pretty

List topics (was Re: Help kill the Surveillance State Bill)

2005-05-10 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 11:15:31AM -0400, Ben Scott wrote: > Hey people! > > Not too long ago we had a rather prolonged discussion about whether > political stuff like this appropriate for this forum. While a formal > vote was not taken, informally, a clear majority voiced the opinion > that th