Re: Simpler financial package: gnofin

1999-06-01 Thread linas
It's been rumoured that Alexandru Harsanyi said: > > > What draws programmers to other projects? What repels them from > > Gnucash? > > I can't tell you what other programers think of GnuCash, but I can tell > you my opinion about the problem: Gnucash tries to use every possible > feature in pr

Re: Simpler financial package: gnofin

1999-06-01 Thread Rob Browning
Matt Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't want my personal finance package to be another Emacs. But, > frankly, I don't know enough about what you're doing to make a > judgement call. I don't know enough about the benefits. If nothing else, I just want things like this (this is psue

patches-list (was Re: Simpler financial package: gnofin)

1999-06-01 Thread linas
It's been rumoured that Matt Armstrong said: > > Perhaps a gnucash-patches list then. > > Call me impatient, but I'd like to see the changes before Linas puts > them into CVS. > > I agree that this may not be of general interest. I've been less than timely in the last few months, so I think th

Re: Simpler financial package: gnofin

1999-06-01 Thread Jesse D. Sightler
Matt Armstrong wrote: > I don't want my personal finance package to be another Emacs. But, > frankly, I don't know enough about what you're doing to make a > judgement call. I don't know enough about the benefits. > > I am not against scheme as an extension language. I think it is a > better

Re: Simpler financial package: gnofin

1999-06-01 Thread cbbrowne
Rob Browning wrote: > Well, I just didn't think everyone on the list would want hundred-k > emails. I'm happy to post them to the list, but if we are going to do > that, then perhaps we need a gnucash-patches list. Of course the way > we do things now, once Linas sticks them in CVS, anyone can g

Re: Simpler financial package: gnofin

1999-06-01 Thread Jesse D. Sightler
Rob Browning wrote: > > In the long run, I can see no real benefit to the Motif version of > > the application. > > The benefit right now is that the Gnome version is absolutely *not* > stable enough to use. For those of us who already have our data in > GnuCash, and must have multiple splits,

Re: Simpler financial package: gnofin

1999-06-01 Thread Graham Chapman
On Tue, 01 Jun 1999, you wrote: > The screenshots resemble the older xacc from which gnucash descended. > Given the mail I get, it seems like xacc is plenty enough for a lot of > people; I suppose that there must be some sort of lesson in the > creeping-featuritis that gnucash has (and that is

Re: Simpler financial package: gnofin

1999-06-01 Thread Matt Armstrong
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Rob Browning wrote: > > > Well, I just didn't think everyone on the list would want hundred-k > > emails. I'm happy to post them to the list, but if we are going to do > > that, then perhaps we need a gnucash-patches list. Of course the way > > we do things now, once

Re: Simpler financial package: gnofin

1999-06-01 Thread Todd Greer
On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Jeremy Collins wrote: > Matt Armstrong wrote: > > I think the responsability is on gnucash folks to supply the relevant > > RPMs and FAQs for installing all the stuff gnucash needs. A lot of > > the questions are "where is the RPM for XYZ" so having an organized > > answer fo

Re: Simpler financial package: gnofin

1999-06-01 Thread Matt Armstrong
Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jeremy Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > I think the guile integration will both turn some people away and > > > allow others to contribute at the same time. > > > > > > > Turns me off, but who am I? ;) > > OK. I'd like to take this opport

PATCH: fixes last bits of conflict.

1999-06-01 Thread Rob Browning
This patch fixes the last bits of conflict between Jeremy and my latest big patches. I was made against CVS as of half an hour ago. Linas, you can ignore the modifications to the configure stuff that automake did, but it won't hurt and might help. Also, I noticed you didn't check in the g-wrap

Re: Hi, and once again XmHTML ...

1999-06-01 Thread Eugene Kanter
Linas Vepstas wrote: > Hi Koen, > > I got tired of all those complaints about XmeDrawShadows & and gnucash > this & that, and decided to take the bull by the horns. And hit a wall; > I need your help. Here's some background: > > 1) instaled the latest lesstiff RPM i could find, 0.87.1 (I'd prev

Re: Simpler financial package: gnofin

1999-06-01 Thread Jesse D. Sightler
Matt Armstrong wrote: > 2) Get GnuCash working well under lesstif. I'm interested in doing >this because it is the shortest path towards me getting a working >GUI. (I don't care about GTK or Themes or Gnome. I think Motif >support will remain important for a long time to come, if o

Re: Simpler financial package: gnofin

1999-06-01 Thread Rob Browning
"Jesse D. Sightler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Honestly, I think that GTK+ ought to be MUCH more of a priority than > Motif. Actually, truth be told, I wouldn't mind if the Motif > version were phased out completely. I realize that this may seem to > raise portability issues, but you should

Re: Simpler financial package: gnofin

1999-06-01 Thread Rob Browning
Alexandru Harsanyi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When I downloaded Gnucash from the CVS repository, I found a program > that aimed for having "all" GUI's and "all" extension > languages. From what I read from the documentation files, my > conclusion was that gnucash is more a "programming exercis

Re: Simpler financial package: gnofin

1999-06-01 Thread Rob Browning
Jeremy Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I do believe that certain areas of Gnucash are complex. The > register is one that comes to mind. I spend several days combing > through the code for the register and still probably don't have a > good understanding of whats going on. The register w

Re: Simpler financial package: gnofin

1999-06-01 Thread Rob Browning
Jeremy Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I think the guile integration will both turn some people away and > > allow others to contribute at the same time. > > > > Turns me off, but who am I? ;) OK. I'd like to take this opportunity to have a DTR (Define the Relationship). What I'd lik

Re: Simpler financial package: gnofin

1999-06-01 Thread Rob Browning
Matt Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > With those three done, I'd release 1.2. :-) All good ideas. [...] > Yes. I have a strong love hate relationship with emacs. I use > about 10% of what it can do. I keep trying to switch to other > editors because I'm tired of its bloat a

Re: Simpler financial package: gnofin

1999-06-01 Thread Alan Orndorff
Please remember that people with other unix based OS's are trying to get this darn program to compile as well. If you could include some instructions on how to install slibc that don't include, get rpm xyz.rpm and install it, that would be useful to others as well. Jeremy Collins wrote: > Mat

Re: Simpler financial package: gnofin

1999-06-01 Thread Alexandru Harsanyi
On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Jeremy Collins wrote: > What draws programmers to other projects? What repels them from > Gnucash? I can't tell you what other programers think of GnuCash, but I can tell you my opinion about the problem: Gnucash tries to use every possible feature in program developping.

Re: rpm lesstif,xacc?

1999-06-01 Thread zeek
Linas, Thanks. The instructions are quite confusing... including pointers to sites that no longer provide the software necessary for a quick install. I think compiling is the best advice for someone wanting a lesstif version. If I can accomplish this in less than a few hours I'll build an RPM

Re: Simpler financial package: gnofin

1999-06-01 Thread Jeremy Collins
Matt Armstrong wrote: > > Yes. A lot of the gnucash support modules are either not commonly > used (XmHTML, guile, etc.) or are still unstable (gnome, etc.). > > I think the responsability is on gnucash folks to supply the relevant > RPMs and FAQs for installing all the stuff gnucash needs. A

Re: Simpler financial package: gnofin

1999-06-01 Thread Jeremy Collins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Finally I wonder if gnucash is too hard to develop for & debug, because its > grown big enough to have some significant internal complexity. I don't know what > can be done about this, if anything should be done, I suspect this is a fact of >life... What draws progr

Re: Simpler financial package: gnofin

1999-06-01 Thread Rob Browning
Matt Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > As a new-comer to gnucash I can see the project through the eyes of > an outsider. It is clear that it is a long way before a stable > gnucash is ready for release. What isn't so clear is what features > will be in that release. http://linas.org/lin

Re: Hi, and once again XmHTML ...

1999-06-01 Thread linas
It's been rumoured that Koen D'Hondt said: > The only way to build XmHTML without the Xme problems is to compile XmHTML > using a 1.2.X Motif or a LessTif without the Motif 2.0 compatibility. All > Motif 2.X libraries still have the _Xm functions available for backwards > compatibility, so this sh

Re: Simpler financial package: gnofin

1999-06-01 Thread linas
It's been rumoured that Matt Armstrong said: > > I just ran across a personal finance package for Gnome: > > http://jagger.me.berkeley.edu/~dfisher/gnofin/ > > Its goals are much simpler than GnuCash. It even claims that "if you > are looking for a feature-rich money management application, yo