Re: [GNC] Need help with a Savings account

2019-04-17 Thread David T. via gnucash-user
Adrien, Your willingness to help others in such situations far outstrips my own, and I commend you for it.  I've said it before, but it bears repeating: I think it is better to refer users to the documentation first, and address their questions at a later stage, for a number of reasons.  Fir

[GNC] Installing 3.5 deb packages on Ubuntu 19.04 Disco Dingo

2019-04-17 Thread Adrien Monteleone
So, I’m jumping a day ahead and I upgraded my Ubuntu Cosmic 18.10 installation to 19.04. Now, attempting to install Stephen’s 3.5 .deb build gets me this: ``` gnucash depends on libboost-date-time1.65.1; however: Package libboost-date-time1.65.1 is not installed. gnucash depends on libboost-f

Re: [GNC] Need help with a Savings account

2019-04-17 Thread Adrien Monteleone
David, I agree, a reading of the Guide would have helped significantly. Perhaps I should have refrained from personal assistance and commentary and simply pointed to the relevant sections. That is likely the better approach, especially since the ‘work’ in explaining is already done. Regards, A

Re: [GNC] Need help with a Savings account

2019-04-17 Thread Adrien Monteleone
> On Apr 17, 2019, at 11:18 PM, AC wrote: > > On 2019-04-17 20:00, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >> And I also agree that the GnuCash defaults of informal labels and Basic View >> are much simpler to comprehend. >> >> However, once someone encounters a situation where they don’t understand >> ’tra

Re: [GNC] Need help with a Savings account

2019-04-17 Thread David T. via gnucash-user
Adrien, The Guide covers in some detail both the concept of double entry and debits and credits. In fact, some have suggested that the guide goes into too much detail about these concepts.  It was the reason I suggested that the recent user consult the documentation, since it explained everyth

Re: [GNC] Return of Capital

2019-04-17 Thread John Ralls
> On Apr 17, 2019, at 8:03 AM, cicko wrote: > > I'm trying to record the recommended transaction as > > 2019-04-01 * Return of capital > Assets:Investments:Broker:Cash 500.00 USD > Assets:Investments:Broker:Shares:IPE100 IPE { 5.00 USD} [2000-01-01] > @ 5.00 USD > Assets

Re: [GNC] Need help with a Savings account

2019-04-17 Thread AC
On 2019-04-17 20:00, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > And I also agree that the GnuCash defaults of informal labels and Basic View > are much simpler to comprehend. > > However, once someone encounters a situation where they don’t understand > ’transfer’ account or the nature of double-entry, problems

Re: [GNC] Return of Capital

2019-04-17 Thread Adrien Monteleone
cicko, I confess, while I use trading accounts (for PMs) I don’t track stocks, so maybe I can’t be of help, but what are you expecting the balancing transaction below to be? I see three splits which appear balanced, one to cash for $500 (presumably debit because it is listed as a positive and

Re: [GNC] Linux build from source

2019-04-17 Thread J R via gnucash-user
I'm successful installing Stephen's 3.5 on Linux Mint 19.1I just had to install last file first, then middle, then first... in the list, otherwise I got a dependency errorCopied over xml book from windows, loaded fine,, all the data thereWhen I enter a transaction background is black and text

Re: [GNC] Need help with a Savings account

2019-04-17 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Colin, I agree, most people are coming from a place of hearing those terms from the institution’s perspective, which confuses many at first. And I also agree that the GnuCash defaults of informal labels and Basic View are much simpler to comprehend. However, once someone encounters a situation

Re: [GNC] Need help with a Savings account

2019-04-17 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 4/16/19 9:32 AM, Colin Law wrote: It may have been mentioned before but in Settings > Accounts there is a checkbox, Use formal accounting labels. If you clear that then the headings on bank accounts say withdrawal and deposit, and on Credit card accounts say Charge and Payment, which I find m

Re: [GNC] Need help with a Savings account

2019-04-17 Thread Adrien Monteleone
“Debt” and “Debit” are NOT the same thing, despite they are 1 letter apart. If the balance of your bank account is positive (you have money to spend in it) then your opening balance entry in GnuCash should be a debit to that account and a credit to `Equity:Opening Balances`. That isn’t because

Re: [GNC] Need help with a Savings account

2019-04-17 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 4/16/19 5:41 AM, Michael or Penny Novack wrote: On 4/15/2019 6:11 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote: Hi All, Now that I am feeling brave coming off of creating a charge card account, I decided to create a saving account. My bank statement shows deposits as positive numbers and withdra

Re: [GNC] Need help with a Savings account

2019-04-17 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 4/16/19 1:24 AM, Fred Bone wrote: So I should switch my opening balance to a negative number? Possibly. It rather depends on whether your account was overdrawn when you started your current books. My paper bank book and bank statement shows a positive number. They way I am understanding

Re: [GNC] GnuCash V3.5 Not Used By My GnuCash Database

2019-04-17 Thread Adrien Monteleone
By chance did you manage to install them side-by-side? How did you install 3.5? (or 3.4 for that matter, as neither is in the 18.04 repos) Did you try to intentionally launch 3.5 first, then use File > Open? I can’t see how in such a case, 3.4 would suddenly launch. (but double-clicking the fi

[GNC] GnuCash V3.5 Not Used By My GnuCash Database

2019-04-17 Thread Lawrence Joy via gnucash-user
Hello,I downloaded V3.5 to my Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS OS but my database comes up in previous V3.4. I thought that this would change automatically. How do I get my database to use V3.5?--Thanks, Larry ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To

Re: [GNC] How to treat benefit payments from government?

2019-04-17 Thread Adrien Monteleone
In that case, you have a few options: 1. Add a higher top-level ‘income’ type account called ‘Revenue’ and make ‘Income’ a child of it, then add other non-taxable receipt accounts as children of ‘Revenue’ 2. Create a regular ‘Income’ account but do not include it as ’taxable’ when using the tax

Re: [GNC] How to treat benefit payments from government?

2019-04-17 Thread R. Victor Klassen
I generally treat such payments as income, but as its own account. It isn’t taxable, or reportable, so if you care (i.e. if you are going to use your GnuCash data in filling in your income taxes, rather than, say downloading your T-slips), you want it segregated from other income. Then I can d

Re: [GNC] How to treat benefit payments from government?

2019-04-17 Thread gn00b
Adrien Monteleone-2 wrote > Someone on the list from Canada (even better, a local CPA) should offer > better advice, but the first question you probably want answered is, “Is > this taxable next year?” > > That will likely influence how you record it now. > > Regards, > Adrien > >> On Apr 17, 20

Re: [GNC] How to treat benefit payments from government?

2019-04-17 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Someone on the list from Canada (even better, a local CPA) should offer better advice, but the first question you probably want answered is, “Is this taxable next year?” That will likely influence how you record it now. Regards, Adrien > On Apr 17, 2019, at 4:37 PM, gn00b wrote: > > When I f

Re: [GNC] Zelle

2019-04-17 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Khristine, If you are sharing expenses, say you fronted the cash and they are paying you back their portion, then you would not record that as income, and you also wouldn’t have recorded the original full amount as your expenditure. You’re merely facilitating payment for someone else. I have a

[GNC] How to treat benefit payments from government?

2019-04-17 Thread gn00b
When I file my 2019 personal income tax for income earned in 2018, the government will send me a monthly cheque based on my 2018 income. What should the credit side of the journal entry look like when I initially record this? Should I be treating this as income? I know I should Debit Benefit Receiv

Re: [GNC] Zelle

2019-04-17 Thread Derek Atkins
Oh, and also, please remember to CC the list on all replies. (I didn't notice until after I hit send). -derek On Wed, April 17, 2019 4:04 pm, Derek Atkins wrote: > It depends why they send it to you. > I use Income:Gifts > Unless it's being used for something specific. > > Treat it the same way y

Re: [GNC] Zelle

2019-04-17 Thread Derek Atkins
I would just treat it the same way I would treat an ATM or Check -- as a direct transfer between Bank and Income or Expense. -derek On Wed, April 17, 2019 3:51 pm, Khristine Ann Ramella wrote: > How do you categorize Zelle coming into your account from friends and so > on? > > TY > > I did try to

[GNC] Zelle

2019-04-17 Thread Khristine Ann Ramella
How do you categorize Zelle coming into your account from friends and so on? TY I did try to search this topic and was unsuccessful. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-us

Re: [GNC] Linux build from source

2019-04-17 Thread Ronal B Morse
As of today, the repository for Ubuntu 19.4 (Disco Dingy) has version 3.4 of Gnucash in the archive. Runs like a champ. RBM On 4/17/19 8:27 AM, Colin Law wrote: On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 15:16, J R via gnucash-user wrote: Hi, Is there a simple step by step to build from source for ubuntu /

Re: [GNC] Linux build from source

2019-04-17 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Instructions for building are on the wiki. It assumes you know your way around the command line and your package manager, but it does hold your hand somewhat. If you copy paste the commands and understand your current system, you should be fine. (especially if you know how to check if required d

Re: [GNC] Return of Capital

2019-04-17 Thread cicko
I'm trying to record the recommended transaction as 2019-04-01 * Return of capital Assets:Investments:Broker:Cash 500.00 USD Assets:Investments:Broker:Shares:IPE100 IPE { 5.00 USD} [2000-01-01] @ 5.00 USD Assets:Investments:Broker:Shares:IPE -100 IPE {10.00 USD} [2000-01

Re: [GNC] Linux build from source

2019-04-17 Thread Colin Law
On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 15:39, J R via gnucash-user wrote: > > Thanks, I'm using Linux Mint 19.1, it has been a good learning transition > from windowsWould like to stick with GNC 3.5+ If you switch to Ubuntu 18.04 or later you can install using the deb files provided by Stephen. Support for Ub

Re: [GNC] Linux build from source

2019-04-17 Thread J R via gnucash-user
Thanks, I'm using Linux Mint 19.1, it has been a good learning transition from windowsWould like to stick with GNC 3.5+ On Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 10:28:06 AM EDT, Colin Law wrote: On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 15:16, J R via gnucash-user wrote: > > Hi, Is there a simple step by step to b

Re: [GNC] Linux build from source

2019-04-17 Thread Colin Law
On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 15:16, J R via gnucash-user wrote: > > Hi, Is there a simple step by step to build from source for ubuntu / Linux > mint ?I'm suprised there is not a version ready to install for ubuntu like > with other programs I use like, Zoneminder & ChromisPOS There is a version on U

[GNC] Linux build from source

2019-04-17 Thread J R via gnucash-user
Hi, Is there a simple step by step to build from source for ubuntu / Linux mint ?I'm suprised there is not a version ready to install for ubuntu like with other programs I use like, Zoneminder & ChromisPOS I'm running gnc on windows 7 and want to try the linux version Thanks _

Re: [GNC] Column Width

2019-04-17 Thread Justin Mathew via gnucash-user
GnuCash 3.5 complied from source into Bunsenlabs Helium (Debian Stretch). - Regards, Justin Mathew mjus...@protonmail.com Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 7:00 PM, Derek Atkins wrote: > Justin Mathew mjus...@protonmail.com writes

Re: [GNC] Debian Files for GnuCash 3.4-x

2019-04-17 Thread Justin Mathew via gnucash-user
I am using 3.5 in Debian Stretch: compiled it from source. It's not walk in the park, but if you are interested I can share some info. - Regards, Justin Mathew mjus...@protonmail.com Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 6:39 PM, bolds

Re: [GNC] Column Width

2019-04-17 Thread Derek Atkins
Justin Mathew writes: > Michael, > >> If you type only DD then to the next field, it will assume the >> current month and year. > > This works. > >> If you type DD/MM and you’ll get the current year. Actually, there is a preference here where if you type DD/MM and tab out, it will choose from

Re: [GNC] Debian Files for GnuCash 3.4-x

2019-04-17 Thread boldstripe
I would prefer to wait until my distribution updates to 3.5 (have had problems trying to build from source in the past). Debian testing is already on 3.4, so it is hopefully just a matter of time. -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html _

Re: [GNC] Column Width

2019-04-17 Thread David T. via gnucash-user
Readers might like to consult: https://cvs.gnucash.org/docs/C/gnucash-guide/txns-shortcuts1.html Additionally, the behavior of the register columns (and in particular the Description and Balance columns) is described at: https:/

[GNC] Return of Capital

2019-04-17 Thread cicko
Hi, I'm trying to run some reports with ledger but have hit the wall at the very beginning. The return-of-capital transactions are reported as invalid. I'm following the instructions for recording this type of transaction and the $ amount goes from IPE account to Cash. Unfortunately, ledger does n

Re: [GNC] Column Width

2019-04-17 Thread Justin Mathew via gnucash-user
Michael, > If you type only DD then to the next field, it will assume the current > month and year. This works. > If you type DD/MM and you’ll get the current year. I can't type in the character / or - for that matter. - Regards, Justin Mathew mjus...@protonmail.com Sent with ProtonMail S

Re: [GNC] Column Width

2019-04-17 Thread Michael Hendry
> On 17 Apr 2019, at 11:48, Justin Mathew via gnucash-user > wrote: > > > > Is there any way to enter dates from keyboard? Eg, if you have to enter a > record for past dates, you have to choose the dates from the drop down > calendar. Any format that I can type to get the dates? > > > - >

Re: [GNC] Column Width

2019-04-17 Thread Justin Mathew via gnucash-user
Gareth, Checkout Derek Atkin's reply. You can resize all columns. Resizing description column in the end will fit the register to the screen width. - Regards, Justin Mathew mjus...@protonmail.com Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, April 17, 2019

Re: [GNC] Column Width

2019-04-17 Thread Justin Mathew via gnucash-user
Thanks Derek, > Yes, and then you can reduce the size of the Description field. > > The Description field will ALWAYS auto-expand to fill the window size, but > it will not auto-reduce. So you need to expand the list beyond the window > (so the scrollbar appears) and only then can you reduce the d

Re: [GNC] Column Width

2019-04-17 Thread Gareth Davies via gnucash-user
Thanks Guys, I will give it’s try when I get home. It’s strange that you can resize some of the columns, but not all of them. Regards, Gareth Sent from my iPhone > On 17 Apr 2019, at 11:42 am, Derek Atkins wrote: > > Hi, > >> On Wed, April 17, 2019 6:29 am, Justin Mathew via gnucash-user w

Re: [GNC] Column Width

2019-04-17 Thread Justin Mathew via gnucash-user
Jeff, > Double-click the centre of the column header. That's much better than double clicking on the edge of each column. Thanks. - Regards, Justin Mathew mjus...@protonmail.com Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 4:11 PM, Jeff Abra

Re: [GNC] Column Width

2019-04-17 Thread Derek Atkins
Hi, On Wed, April 17, 2019 6:29 am, Justin Mathew via gnucash-user wrote: > I am wondering about this same thing as well. > > If you expand the width by double clicking on the edge of the column, it > adjusts to it's width but at the expense of the spreadsheet shifting right > of the fold. Yes, a

Re: [GNC] Column Width

2019-04-17 Thread Jeff Abrahamson
Double-click the centre of the column header. This may very well be a function of your OS, however, since gnucash is written on toolboxes that behave slightly differently depending on context.  In my context, ubuntu linus (and 2.6, in case that matters), this works. Jeff Abrahamson https://www.p2

Re: [GNC] Column Width

2019-04-17 Thread Justin Mathew via gnucash-user
I am wondering about this same thing as well. If you expand the width by double clicking on the edge of the column, it adjusts to it's width but at the expense of the spreadsheet shifting right of the fold. - Regards, Justin Mathew mjus...@protonmail.com Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐

[GNC] Column Width

2019-04-17 Thread Gareth Davies via gnucash-user
Hi Is there an easy way of resizing the width of the columns, especially the transaction one. When I try to drag the column width across it just springs back. Gareth Sent from my iPhone ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update

Re: [GNC] I can't see above the current widow

2019-04-17 Thread Adrien Monteleone
> On Apr 17, 2019, at 4:24 AM, Jonathan Silvey > wrote: > > For some reason, I cannot go above the top line of a window. What do you mean by "cannot go above the top line of a window?” Go above it how? What are you expecting to see? What are you referring to as the ’top line’? > > Two pos

[GNC] I can't see above the current widow

2019-04-17 Thread Jonathan Silvey
For some reason, I cannot go above the top line of a window. I have been through the Preferences and Help pages without success. Two possible clues are that the Accounts totals are correct, so the information is there somewhere. But when I add a Description which I have used many times before (but

Re: [GNC] Gnucash Price updating

2019-04-17 Thread ronjnk
No problem David. I fully understand the problems you folks have to deal with and fortunately, I simply need to track a bunch of mutual funds, Once a month or once a quarter to manually update will be fine for now. I'm sticking with Gnucash. No need to get back to me but I'm pretty sure I have

Re: [GNC] [GNC-dev] Recording dividend payoffs

2019-04-17 Thread Justin Mathew via gnucash-user
Maf, > Forget that bit. must have still been waking up. it is 2 separate txns on 3 > accounts Yes, 2 records on 3 accounts. and Dividend Declarations register will always be minus as stated in my prev email. This is because Dividend Declarations only take money out of the business. There is no

Re: [GNC] [GNC-dev] Recording dividend payoffs

2019-04-17 Thread Maf. King
On Wednesday, 17 April 2019 08:51:00 BST Maf. King wrote: > Said text goes on to explain that the act of declaring a dividend to be > payable creates a liability account on the company. When dividends are > paid, that liability account is cleared from equity:retained Earnings > (presumably compan

Re: [GNC] Recording dividend payoffs

2019-04-17 Thread Justin Mathew via gnucash-user
David, Thanks for joining the conversation. > If you make the Dividends Declared account a child account of Retained > Earnings ,i.e a contra account in accounting terms, any dividend amounts > will be automatically deducted from Retained Earnings as suggested on the > following site. > https://w

Re: [GNC] Recording dividend payoffs

2019-04-17 Thread David Cousens
Justin, If you make the Dividends Declared account a child account of Retained Earnings ,i.e a contra account in accounting terms, any dividend amounts will be automatically deducted from Retained Earnings as suggested on the following site. https://www.accountingcoach.com/blog/recording-dividend-

Re: [GNC] [GNC-dev] Recording dividend payoffs

2019-04-17 Thread Justin Mathew via gnucash-user
Chris, > Or are we talking about Dividends whereby the individual (has shares in > companies) receives money from these shares? This one is Income:Dividends to > Asset:Bank and gets wound up into Retained Earnings after closing books. This isn't what I am talking about. A company can own share

Re: [GNC] [GNC-dev] Recording dividend payoffs

2019-04-17 Thread Maf. King
On Wednesday, 17 April 2019 00:35:15 BST Christopher Lam wrote: > I suspect there's vocabulary issue here. > > Justin are you talking about Dividends whereby the business owner (with > shareholders) sends monies to shareholders? I don't know how to book these > transactions. Asset:Bank -> Expenses

Re: [GNC] Credits and Debits

2019-04-17 Thread Colin Law
On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 23:47, John Clark via gnucash-user wrote: > ... > The labels at the top of my GNC transaction pages are labeled ‘Deposit’ and > “Withdrawal”. Money comes into the ‘deposit’ column, money ‘disappears’ in > the ‘withdrawal’ column. > > When I go to the bank I ‘deposit’ money