Re: Proposal: Switch back to savannah using GIT

2015-05-29 Thread Luboš Doležel
Dne 29.5.2015 01:27, Stefan Bidigaray napsal: Sorry for being late to the discussion, yet again! I haven't committed much recently, but I still wanted to weight-in. So, reading everyone's reply I get the impression that feel that GIT really isn't all that great if you're not using it with a mor

Re: Proposal: Switch back to savannah using GIT

2015-05-29 Thread David Chisnall
On 29 May 2015, at 00:27, Stefan Bidigaray wrote: > > So, reading everyone's reply I get the impression that feel that GIT really > isn't all that great if you're not using it with a more powerful host like > GitHub. Is this true? I've only ever used SVN and CVS, and only ever > committed to

Re: Proposal: Switch back to savannah using GIT

2015-05-29 Thread Gregory Casamento
If the consensus is to move to github, then that work is basically already done. The github mirror is a full mirror of all of the code in subversion. I agree with David. Where we are hosted is extremely important since it has everything to do with visibility. The only problem I am seeing with

Re: Proposal: Switch back to savannah using GIT

2015-05-29 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, David Chisnall wrote: - Automatic tarball generation. When I’m packaging a project for FreeBSD, it makes me very happy to learn that it’s hosted on GitHub, because if I know the release branch name or hash I can automatically generate a URL that is a tarball of the sources and tell the

Re: Proposal: Switch back to savannah using GIT

2015-05-29 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, David Chisnall wrote: If what GNUstep needs is a host that most potential developers don’t have an account on (and won’t think to look at), conveys the impression that we’re a dead project, and adds more barriers to entry for new developers then, indeed, Savannah does everything that GNUs

Re: Proposal: Switch back to savannah using GIT

2015-05-29 Thread Matt Rice
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 1:55 AM, Gregory Casamento wrote: > If the consensus is to move to github, then that work is basically already > done. The github mirror is a full mirror of all of the code in subversion. > I agree with David. Where we are hosted is extremely important since it has > eve

Re: Proposal: Switch back to savannah using GIT

2015-05-29 Thread Gregory Casamento
So, something even more obscure than savannah? On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 6:46 AM Matt Rice wrote: > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 1:55 AM, Gregory Casamento > wrote: > > If the consensus is to move to github, then that work is basically > already > > done. The github mirror is a full mirror of all of

Re: Proposal: Switch back to savannah using GIT

2015-05-29 Thread David Chisnall
On 29 May 2015, at 11:41, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > > Since we have an advanced make system, Hahahaha! Oh, sorry, you were serious. > make dist, if you are on a quickie > make svn-tag && make svn-dist, if you want to do it nice. Okay, where does this upload the tarball to? Or do I now need t

Re: Proposal: Switch back to savannah using GIT

2015-05-29 Thread Matt Rice
Some people can't justify hosting their sources at a 3rd party, it may not impact GNUstep as a project, but in theory one could modify the software to allow synchronizing bug reports (they may have this already I haven't looked) I wouldn't say savannah is obscure, it just (cant figure out a way to

Re: Proposal: Switch back to savannah using GIT

2015-05-29 Thread David Chisnall
On 29 May 2015, at 09:55, Gregory Casamento wrote: > > If the consensus is to move to github, then that work is basically already > done. The github mirror is a full mirror of all of the code in subversion. > I agree with David. Where we are hosted is extremely important since it has > ev

Re: Proposal: Switch back to savannah using GIT

2015-05-29 Thread Gregory Casamento
David, On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 7:20 AM David Chisnall wrote: > On 29 May 2015, at 09:55, Gregory Casamento > wrote: > > > > If the consensus is to move to github, then that work is basically > already done. The github mirror is a full mirror of all of the code in > subversion. I agree with

Re: Proposal: Switch back to savannah using GIT

2015-05-29 Thread Stefan Bidigaray
OK, so people have said Savannah doesn't fulfill our needs, but never explained how so? And how github manages to do so? Ivan mentioned Savannah doesn't support separate repos, what does that mean to us? I agree with the few that have philosophical objections to github, GNUstep being a GNU and FSF

Re: Proposal: Switch back to savannah using GIT

2015-05-29 Thread Luboš Doležel
Dne 29.5.2015 12:46, Matt Rice napsal: I tend to side with the FSF in this regard, so I'd prefer something like gitlab which provides hosting, as well as a free software license to the software they use to host... similarly it might not be a bad idea to provide a dns alias to e.g. git.gnustep.or

Re: Proposal: Switch back to savannah using GIT

2015-05-29 Thread Luboš Doležel
Dne 29.5.2015 13:40, Stefan Bidigaray napsal: OK, so people have said Savannah doesn't fulfill our needs, but never explained how so? And how github manages to do so? Ivan mentioned Savannah doesn't support separate repos, what does that mean to us? It means all GNUstep components would exist a

Re: Proposal: Switch back to savannah using GIT

2015-05-29 Thread David Chisnall
On 29 May 2015, at 12:29, Gregory Casamento wrote: > >> I used svn2git, which allows better control over how things are mapped to >> branches and tags. This version preserves the structure of the svn repo >> better and we’d probably want to do something similar for other GNUstep >> projects,

Re: Proposal: Switch back to savannah using GIT

2015-05-29 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 29 May 2015, at 12:11, David Chisnall wrote: > > On 29 May 2015, at 11:41, Riccardo Mottola wrote: >> >> Since we have an advanced make system, > > Hahahaha! Oh, sorry, you were serious. Boring ... we all know you hate gnustep-make because it's tailored to the needs of the GNUstep projec

Re: Proposal: Switch back to savannah using GIT

2015-05-29 Thread David Chisnall
On 29 May 2015, at 13:18, Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote: > >> Oh, and this doesn’t actually do what I do (and what is best practice to do) >> to ensure a clean release tarball, which is tar up the result of svn export, >> to ensure that the tarball exactly matches the contents of svn. Instead

Re: Proposal: Switch back to savannah using GIT

2015-05-29 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 29 May 2015, at 14:31, David Chisnall wrote: > > On 29 May 2015, at 13:18, Richard Frith-Macdonald > wrote: >> >>> Oh, and this doesn’t actually do what I do (and what is best practice to >>> do) to ensure a clean release tarball, which is tar up the result of svn >>> export, to ensure th

Re: Proposal: Switch back to savannah using GIT

2015-05-29 Thread Matt Rice
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 1:22 AM, David Chisnall wrote: > - Automatic tarball generation. When I’m packaging a project for FreeBSD, it > makes me very happy to learn that it’s hosted on GitHub, because if I know > the release branch name or hash I can automatically generate a URL that is a > t