Re: [GRN] Re: Dutch map ‘stolen from the Portuguese’

2024-10-14 Thread 'Nuno Cardoso da Silva' via Goa-Research-Net
Alberto, We also suffered in Portugal the misdeeds of the Inquisition, the persecutions of PIDE, the political prisons, the petty mindedness of Salazar, and we survived. And we realized that being Portugal and Portuguese was a lot more than that, and we are today happy in our multicultural and mul

Re: [GRN] Re: Dutch map ‘stolen from the Portuguese’

2024-10-07 Thread 'Nuno Cardoso da Silva' via Goa-Research-Net
Pedro,   My experience in Angola was that often White men had intercourse with Black women and made them pregnant. In most cases I know of, the children (mixed race) were taken care of in their father's house, they were sent to school and taken care of as any of the legitimate children. The mothe

Re: RE: [GRN] Dutch map ‘stolen from the Portuguese’

2024-10-06 Thread 'Nuno Cardoso da Silva' via Goa-Research-Net
i navigator Ibn Majid who had been requested to guide VDG to the Malabar coast in india in 1498. Else he would had met the same fate as Colombo the drunkard, who got lost in the Carribean and assuming he reached India, called the place the West Indies. History needs a bit of an update. 

Re: [GRN] Re: Dutch map ‘stolen from the Portuguese’

2024-10-04 Thread 'Nuno Cardoso da Silva' via Goa-Research-Net
ad been requested to guide VDG to the Malabar coast in india in 1498. Else he would had met the same fate as Colombo the drunkard, who got lost in the Carribean and assuming he reached India, called the place the West Indies. History needs a bit of an update.       From: 'Nuno Cardoso

Re: [GRN] Re: Dutch map ‘stolen from the Portuguese’

2024-10-03 Thread 'Nuno Cardoso da Silva' via Goa-Research-Net
Alberto, The Portuguese stole as much as any other nation. The Portuguese difference was the willingness of mixing with other ethnic groups, from the casual sexual intercourse to marriage and to the ability to "go native". We might on occasion consider the "natives" primitive, but that never stopp

Re: [GRN] DAY OF JOY

2024-07-09 Thread 'Nuno Cardoso da Silva' via Goa-Research-Net
Not wishing to be part of an authoritarian Portugal, Goa and Goans had deserved the right to independence. Over 450 years of autonomous existence were more than sufficient to have the world respecting their right to sovereignty. Nehru's India thought otherwise and freedom was replaced by irrelevanc

Re: [GRN] DAY OF JOY

2024-07-07 Thread 'Nuno Cardoso da Silva' via Goa-Research-Net
Much changed in Portugal, throughout the 19th and 20th centuries in respect to our idea of Portugal. Mistakes were made - like the Acto Colonial - and corrected. And the idea of “Portugal from Minho to Timor” was not just a slogan from the Estado Novo. It is still true today, although confined to t

Re: [GRN] Indian cinema and Vasco de Gama

2024-07-01 Thread 'Nuno Cardoso da Silva' via Goa-Research-Net
"...xenophobic mestiços or descendentes..."   I love generalizations...   Nuno   Sent: Monday, July 01, 2024 at 12:01 PM From: "'Pedro Mascarenhas' via Goa-Research-Net" To: "goa-research-net@googlegroups.com" Subject: Re: [GRN] Indian cinema and Vasco de Gama   John   URUMI, was a

Re: [GRN] Indian cinema and Vasco de Gama

2024-06-29 Thread 'Nuno Cardoso da Silva' via Goa-Research-Net
In real history there are no good guys nor bad guys. Everybody is sometimes good and sometimes bad. We Portuguese did both good and bad things. One good thing was the opportunity of having Goans and othe peoples from India living in Portugal alongside us, helping us to shape the Portugal of the fut

Re: [GRN] Once again democracy prevailed in India.

2024-06-06 Thread 'Nuno Cardoso da Silva' via Goa-Research-Net
Pedro,    Since you seem to be under the impression that Portuguese people in general dislike and discriminate against people from India, I would like to remind you that there are almost 35,000 Indian citizens legally living in Portugal, as well as nearly 25,000 Nepalese, who are mostly Hindu. No

Re: [GRN] Goa University stands as India’s sole UG, PG degree provider in Portuguese, shortage of experts plays major deterrent (Gerard de Souza, Hindustan Times)

2024-06-06 Thread 'Nuno Cardoso da Silva' via Goa-Research-Net
a with the CPLP. Goa is an Indian state that does not want to be part of neo-colonial policies.  Alberto   .     - Mensagem de 'Nuno Cardoso da Silva' via Goa-Research-Net <goa-research-net@googlegroups.com> - Data: Thu, 6 Jun 2024 01:35:09 +0200 De: 'Nuno Car

Re: [GRN] Caneco does anyone know what this translates to

2024-06-05 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
Pedro,   Ninety nine percent of the Portuguese people took it as perfectly normal for a rather dark skinned son of a well known Goan to be Prime Minister of Portugal. But you prefer to draw the attention to the very few instances in which some idiots used slurs when referring to António Costa. Wh

Re: [GRN] Caneco does anyone know what this translates to

2024-06-04 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
Found on the internet:   1. Caneco Significado de Caneco Por Maia (Portugal) Indivíduo nascido na Índia Portuguesa ou seu descendente, fruto da miscigenação dos navegadores Portugueses com mulheres Indianas, com nome Português e que, de regra geral, professava a religião católica. https://ww

Re: RE: RE: [GRN] Antonio Costa and Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa, the president of Portugal

2024-05-10 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
            https://praticasdahistoria.pt/ tmn. ++351 930690459     De: 'Nuno Cardoso da Silva' via Goa-Research-Net Enviado: 5 de maio de 2024 09:37 Para: goa-research-net@googlegroups.com Assunto: Re: RE: [GRN] Antonio Costa and Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa, the president of Portugal  

Re: [GRN] Antonio Costa and Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa, the president of Portugal

2024-05-06 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
that time, did the same. I truly have nothing to be ashamed of.   Best wishes   Nuno     Sent: Monday, May 06, 2024 at 11:52 AM From: "'Carvalho' via Goa-Research-Net" To: "'Nuno Cardoso da Silva' via Goa-Research-Net" Subject: Re: [GRN] Antoni

Re: RE: RE: [GRN] Antonio Costa and Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa, the president of Portugal

2024-05-06 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
; would take us far...   best wishes,   Sandra       Sandra Ataíde Lobo             Home (gieipc-ip.org)                              https://praticasdahistoria.pt/ tmn. ++351 930690459     De: 'Nuno Cardoso da Silva' via Goa-Research-Net Enviado: 5 de maio de 2024 09:37 Pa

Re: [GRN] Antonio Costa and Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa, the president of Portugal

2024-05-05 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
ive, crucifixions, shootings. On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 11:39:02 AM GMT+1, 'Nuno Cardoso da Silva' via Goa-Research-Net wrote:     Alberto,   I suppose we all agree that colonization is a vile violation of the rights of the colonized peoples. But it weren't "the heav

Re: [GRN] Antonio Costa and Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa, the president of Portugal

2024-05-05 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
rations to Goa for the damage it is doing to the state and for the money it is robbing its people. Modern colonisers. JP From: 'Nuno Cardoso da Silva' via Goa-Research-Net Sent: 26 April 2024 07:56 To: goa-research-net@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [GRN] Antonio Costa and Marce

Re: RE: [GRN] Antonio Costa and Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa, the president of Portugal

2024-05-05 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
who invent new ways to swindle the population. India needs to do reparations to Goa for the damage it is doing to the state and for the money it is robbing its people. Modern colonisers. JP   From: 'Nuno Cardoso da Silva' via Goa-Research-Net Sent: 26 April 2024 07:56 To: goa

Re: [GRN] Antonio Costa and Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa, the president of Portugal

2024-04-26 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
Yes, throughout the centuries Portugal comitted crimes. Just like every other country on Earth. But we also helped to build. Without Portugal there would be no Goan State in India, and Goans would be a lot different, not necessarily better. Without Portugal there wouldn't be a great nation such as

Re: [GRN] accurate translation required

2024-04-13 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
Helga, I believe it's the name given to a subdivision of a diocese in India.   Nuno     Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 8:01 PM From: "Helga do Rosario Gomes" To: "Goa-Research-Net" Subject: [GRN] accurate translation required How do you translate the Portuguese word Varado accurately?

Re: [GRN] manilhas de oiro

2024-01-18 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
Could be this:     or this:     In the dictionary I found the following:   manilha 1. Argola com que se adornam os pulsos e, em certas culturas, os tornozelos, que no passado era usada como moeda de troca em África.   But I couldn't find any picture, for illustration.   Nuno Card

Re: [GRN] manilhas de oiro

2024-01-18 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
In the dictionary I found the following:   manilha 1. Argola com que se adornam os pulsos e, em certas culturas, os tornozelos, que no passado era usada como moeda de troca em África.   But I couldn't find any picture, for illustration.   Nuno Cardoso da Silva     Sent: Wednesday, Januar

Re: [GRN] Pamphlets

2024-01-09 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
Dear Sir,   Emotions are a poor basis for good thinking.   1. Tiny and bankrupt Portugal?   Portugal is not tiny - it's as big as Austria or Hungary, bigger than Switzerland, the Netherlands, Belgium, Ireland or Denmark - and definitely not bankrupt, although not rich by European standards.

Re: [GRN] Escola Medica

2024-01-01 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
Dear John,   There were quite a few people in Portugal who, at different times and under various forms, thought that some type of Lusophone confederation would be the best solution. I wouldn't be surprised if Dr. Froilano de Melo was one of them. Unfortunately there weren't then enough enlightene

Re: [GRN] Goa, 19/12/1961: The Portuguese constitution of 1933 and the Indian constitution of 1950

2023-12-26 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
Pedro,   Our hatred of Hindus and Hinduism is well known...     You may have seen this beautiful building in Lisbon...   All the best   Nuno   Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2023 at 10:50 AM From: "'Pedro Mascarenhas' via Goa-Research-Net" To: "goa-research-net@googlegroups.com" Subje

Re: [GRN] Goa, 19/12/1961: The Portuguese constitution of 1933 and the Indian constitution of 1950

2023-12-26 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
, PÚBLICO “Não posso deixar aqui de evocar e de me curvar perante a memória das vítimas do massacre de Wiriamu, acto indes...       On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 12:00:06 PM GMT, 'Nuno Cardoso da Silva

Re: [GRN] Goa, 19/12/1961: The Portuguese constitution of 1933 and the Indian constitution of 1950

2023-12-19 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
Pedro,   I respect your opinions, even if they may sound a bit extreme. But let me remind you that the "submissive insignificant minority" has given Portugal some of its most notable people, including the still Prime-Minister of Portugal. Maybe Goa lost something when that "insignificant minority

Re: [GRN] Portugal and Immigration

2023-12-14 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
John,   You may not have the time, but I do, and I want to avoid people thinking there is something wrong about our feelings about immigration:   "From the positive side 71.7% of the people questioned consider that the Portuguese people should receive well the immigrants, 80.7% agree to the leg

Re: [GRN] Pamphlets

2023-12-12 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
In fact some of us agreed with Bruto da Costa's ideas, even before things got sour. Unfortunately not enough people did it...     Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2023 at 10:22 PM From: "fredericknoronha" To: "Goa-Research-Net" Subject: Re: [GRN] Pamphlets Hindsight, they say, is perfect vision. 20

Re: [GRN] Pamphlets

2023-12-12 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
Eugene,   To be defeated by a much stronger power which didn't give a damn about international law could never humble or disgrace Portugal, but it certainly disgraced the fake pacifist who then ruled India. Having said this, I repeat that Portugal should have recognized Goa's right to self rule a

Re: [GRN] Pamphlets

2023-12-12 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
Pity Salazar did not recognize how well founded Bruto da Costa's idea was. It would have been a lot better for millions of peoples in three continents.     Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2023 at 10:54 AM From: "Edgar Valles" To: goa-research-net@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [GRN] Pamphlets Anton

Re: [GRN] Pamphlets

2023-12-11 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
Being myself Portuguese, I always thought that the honourable thing for us to do, would have been granting self-rule to Goa, maybe within a confederal status with Portugal. A solution which should have been extended to all "Overseas Provinces". Unfortunately most of us were not that smart...   Nu

Re: [GRN] Portuguese for non Portuguese researchers

2023-12-05 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
Sorry to interfere, but a 450 year "interregnum" must have left something worth studying, probably using the occupiers language...   Nuno Cardoso da Silva     Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2023 at 8:00 AM From: "Tensing Rodrigues" To: goa-research-net@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [GRN] Portugue

Re: [GRN] Pamphlets

2023-12-04 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
to a Goan and he took my whole library. I had to go to Small Claims Court, paying $600 for a lawyer, to get the books. Perhaps, he has kept some books hidden, as he didn't take me to his house. He kept the books for me to take back in the garage. Regards,   Eugene Correia       On Mon, De

Re: [GRN] Pamphlets

2023-12-04 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
Dear Eugene,   I do not have the possibility of translating all of them, but I would be happy to translate the one you felt would be of greater interest to you. Maybe other people could help with others.   Please do not take offense, but I sometimes wonder why more Goan people do not take the t

Re: [GRN] Portuguese Racism through the Looking Glass (O Heraldo, 18/11/2023)

2023-11-21 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
udices. Young people also show high percentages of racist beliefs. Education and income do not erase biological and cultural racism. Those who disagree with all racist beliefs represent only 11% of the population."     On Tue, 21 Nov 2023, 00:10 'Nuno Cardoso da Silva' via Goa-Resear

Re: [GRN] Portuguese Racism through the Looking Glass (O Heraldo, 18/11/2023)

2023-11-20 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
The overwhelming majority of Portuguese people do not perceive racism as an issue, because it isn't. Of the many thousands African and Asian people - or with African and Asian ancestry - who live in Portugal, only a few may have ever been confronted with racist attitudes. Because obviously there st

Re: [GRN] Portuguese Racism through the Looking Glass (O Heraldo, 18/11/2023)

2023-11-18 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
It's sad that, 62 years after 1961, some Goans are still fighting the Portuguese, as if they aren't sure of the legitimacy of their anti-Portuguese bias and must repeat it over and over again, hoping that with time it will become justified...   Why repeating the obvious, that there are racists in

Re: Responder: [GRN] Fw: A INVASÃO DOS GOESES

2023-11-16 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
s.  Helga  Sent from my iPhone   On Nov 15, 2023, at 20:37, 'Nuno Cardoso da Silva' via Goa-Research-Net wrote:    Helga,   No Africans in Lisbon?     None of whom is selling drugs... LOL...   Nuno Cardoso da Silva     Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 8:35 AM From: &qu

Re: Responder: [GRN] Fw: A INVASÃO DOS GOESES

2023-11-15 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
xception. In some cases we are speaking of pure racism, in other cases, of its variant, xenophobia.                          Sandra Ataíde Lobo                  https://giepcip.wordpress.com/          https://praticasdahistoria.pt/   tmn. ++351 930690459       De: 'Nuno Cardos

Re: Responder: [GRN] Fw: A INVASÃO DOS GOESES

2023-11-14 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
in different ways.   On Tue, 14 Nov 2023, 17:24 'Nuno Cardoso da Silva' via Goa-Research-Net, <goa-research-net@googlegroups.com> wrote:   "The number of Portuguese that on their daily life are invited to go back to their lands when a minimal conflitual situation sta

Re: Responder: [GRN] Fw: A INVASÃO DOS GOESES

2023-11-14 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
    https://giepcip.wordpress.com/          https://praticasdahistoria.pt/   tmn. ++351 930690459       De: 'Nuno Cardoso da Silva' via Goa-Research-Net Enviado: 13 de novembro de 2023 12:33 Para: goa-research-net@googlegroups.com Assunto: Re: [GRN] Re: Fw: A INVASÃO DOS GOESES  

Re: [GRN] Re: Fw: A INVASÃO DOS GOESES

2023-11-13 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
Whether consciously or unconsciously, the vast majority of Portuguese people feel that to be Portuguese only two conditions must be satisfied:   1. Wishing to be Portuguese 2. Being able to speak Portuguese   Ancestry is of no concern...   Nuno Cardoso da Silva     Sent: Saturday, November

Re: [GRN] Re: Fw: A INVASÃO DOS GOESES

2023-11-12 Thread &#x27;Nuno Cardoso da Silva&#x27; via Goa-Research-Net
As I see it, 99% of the Portuguese people dont't give a damn about the ancestry of our fellowcountrymen. We were of course aware of António Costa's ancestry, but only a few people felt it worthwhile to refer to him as "chamuça" or "monhé"... For the rest of us, Goans are just Portuguese, whether th