[GOAL] Re: OA and scholarly publishers

2012-05-11 Thread Peter Murray-Rust
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Richard Poynder wrote: Many thanks to Alicia Wise for starting a new conversation thread.   Let’s recall that Alicia’s question was, “what positive things are established scholarly publishers doing to facilitate the various

[GOAL] Re: OA and scholarly publishers

2012-05-11 Thread Arthur Sale
Peter To what extent does "fair-use" over-ride the publisher wishes? It seems to me that the Australian copyright act is quite clear about using copyright material for criticism, legal purposes, extracting data, etc, but I am not an expert in UK law. Lawyers could have a good argument too

[GOAL] Re: OA and scholarly publishers

2012-05-11 Thread Peter Murray-Rust
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Richard Poynder wrote: > Many thanks to Alicia Wise for starting a new conversation thread. > > ** ** > > Let’s recall that Alicia’s question was, “what positive things are > established scholarly publishers doing to facilitate the various visions > for open

[GOAL] Re: A few Religious Studies articles showing up in SAGE Open open access “mega journal”; reviewers being solicited

2012-05-11 Thread Dana Roth
It seems that Sage Open is almost too reasonably priced for what they offer … but I am a science librarian who doesn’t know much about the soft sciences/humanities publishing. This from:  http://www.sagepub.com/journalsProdDesc.nav?prodId=Journal202037#tabview=title   1. Quick review and

[GOAL] OA and scholarly publishers

2012-05-11 Thread Richard Poynder
Many thanks to Alicia Wise for starting a new conversation thread.   Let’s recall that Alicia’s question was, “what positive things are established scholarly publishers doing to facilitate the various visions for open access and future scholarly communications that should be encouraged,

[GOAL] Re: OA and scholarly publishers

2012-05-11 Thread Reme Melero
Good morning! Thinking positively, I would recommend the following change in one clause of the  What rights do I retain as a journal author*? stated in Elsevier's portal, which says "the right to post a revised personal version of the text of the final journal article (to reflect changes made in

[GOAL] Re: UK Defamation Bill and OA

2012-05-11 Thread adam hodgkin
There was a quite extraordinary case of an author suing Joseph Weiler for defamation for allowing a negative review to be published in a European Law journal that he edits. The review was somewhat negative about the book but I have seen much worse. Weiler is at the very top of his field and he was

[GOAL] Re: A few Religious Studies articles showing up in SAGE Open open access “mega journal”; reviewers being solicited

2012-05-11 Thread Dana Roth
It seems that Sage Open is almost too reasonably priced for what they offer … but I am a science librarian who doesn’t know much about the soft sciences/humanities publishing. This from: http://www.sagepub.com/journalsProdDesc.nav?prodId=Journal202037#tabview=title 1. Quick review and deci

[GOAL] Re: OA and scholarly publishers

2012-05-11 Thread Jan Velterop
Alicia, Some publishers are often criticised, you're right, and I agree that they shouldn't be for just being an established scholarly publisher. And I don't think they are as often as you perhaps assume. It is the policies and business models that are criticised rather than the publishers per se.

[GOAL] Re: OA and scholarly publishers

2012-05-11 Thread David Prosser
Hi Alica There are a number of good examples. In gold OA we have the example of PLoS, BMC, Hindawi, and hundreds of other publishers who are showing the OA gold is a sustainable model. In hybrid, we have publishers such as Springer who a) make obvious papers where the author has paid a publicatio

[GOAL] Re: OA and scholarly publishers

2012-05-11 Thread Wise, Alicia (ELS-OXF)
Hi all,   I’m glad we’re now moving our conversation on in new directions, and I’ld like to suggest one which I hope will be productive.  The discussion on this list often seems to me be based on the assumption that scholarly publishers are a wholly negative force in the open access wor

[GOAL] UK Defamation Bill and OA

2012-05-11 Thread CHARLES OPPENHEIM
This has just been published -see http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/2012-2013/0005/13005.p df.  Clause 6 gives special protection against defamation actions to peer reviewed scholarly articles (the first time peer review has figured in a piece of legislation??). This is someth

[GOAL] Re: UK Defamation Bill and OA

2012-05-11 Thread David Smith
In singling out peer reviewed scholarly articles, it would also seem to imply no additional protection for material in scholarly books or other longer form content. It does raise an interesting question as to whether somebody could go after a pre-print even if it was in a published journal. Or whe

[GOAL] A few Religious Studies articles showing up in SAGE Open open access “mega journal”; reviewers being solicited

2012-05-11 Thread Omega Alpha Open Access
Greetings. I have just updated my blog for your interest. A few Religious Studies articles showing up in SAGE Open open access “mega journal”; reviewers being solicited

[GOAL] Elsevier's query re: "positive things from publishers that should be encouraged, celebrated, recognized"

2012-05-11 Thread Stevan Harnad
**Cross-Posted** El 11/05/2012 11:19, Wise, Alicia (Elsevier) asked: [W]hat positive things are established scholarly publishers doing to facilitate the various visions for open access and future scholarly communications that should be encour

[GOAL] OA and scholarly publishers

2012-05-11 Thread Richard Poynder
Many thanks to Alicia Wise for starting a new conversation thread. Let's recall that Alicia's question was, "what positive things are established scholarly publishers doing to facilitate the various visions for open access and future scholarly communications that should be encouraged, celebrat

[GOAL] Elsevier's query re: "positive things from publishers that should be encouraged, celebrated, recognized"

2012-05-11 Thread Stevan Harnad
**Cross-Posted** > El 11/05/2012 11:19, Wise, Alicia (Elsevier) asked: >> [W]hat positive things are established scholarly publishers doing to >> facilitate the various visions for open access and future scholarly >> communications that should be encouraged, celebrated, recognized? >> Dr Ali

[GOAL] Re: OA and scholarly publishers

2012-05-11 Thread Reme Melero
Good morning! Thinking positively, I would recommend the following change in one clause of the  What rights do I retain as a journal author*? stated in Elsevier's portal, which says "the right to post a revised personal version of the text of the final journal article (to reflect changes made

[GOAL] Re: UK Defamation Bill and OA

2012-05-11 Thread adam hodgkin
There was a quite extraordinary case of an author suing Joseph Weiler for defamation for allowing a negative review to be published in a European Law journal that he edits. The review was somewhat negative about the book but I have seen much worse. Weiler is at the very top of his field and he was

[GOAL] Re: OA and scholarly publishers

2012-05-11 Thread Jan Velterop
Alicia, Some publishers are often criticised, you're right, and I agree that they shouldn't be for just being an established scholarly publisher. And I don't think they are as often as you perhaps assume. It is the policies and business models that are criticised rather than the publishers per

[GOAL] Re: OA and scholarly publishers

2012-05-11 Thread David Prosser
Hi Alica There are a number of good examples. In gold OA we have the example of PLoS, BMC, Hindawi, and hundreds of other publishers who are showing the OA gold is a sustainable model. In hybrid, we have publishers such as Springer who a) make obvious papers where the author has paid a publica

[GOAL] Re: OA and scholarly publishers

2012-05-11 Thread Wise, Alicia (ELS-OXF)
Hi all, I'm glad we're now moving our conversation on in new directions, and I'ld like to suggest one which I hope will be productive. The discussion on this list often seems to me be based on the assumption that scholarly publishers are a wholly negative force in the open access world, and a

[GOAL] Re: UK Defamation Bill and OA

2012-05-11 Thread David Smith
In singling out peer reviewed scholarly articles, it would also seem to imply no additional protection for material in scholarly books or other longer form content. It does raise an interesting question as to whether somebody could go after a pre-print even if it was in a published journal. Or w

[GOAL] UK Defamation Bill and OA

2012-05-11 Thread CHARLES OPPENHEIM
This has just been published - see http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/2012-2013/0005/13005.pdf.  Clause 6 gives special protection against defamation actions to peer reviewed scholarly articles (the first time peer review has figured in a piece of legislation??). This is somet