Re: [GOAL] Re : Re: SSRN Sellout to Elsevier

2016-05-20 Thread Reckling, Falk
Auftrag von Éric Archambault Gesendet: Freitag, 20. Mai 2016 14:11 An: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) Betreff: Re: [GOAL] Re : Re: SSRN Sellout to Elsevier Should read Holtzbrincksevier, not Digisevier. ;-) Eric Archambault 1science.com<http://1science.com> Science-Metrix.

Re: [GOAL] Re : Re: SSRN Sellout to Elsevier

2016-05-20 Thread William Gunn
On the infrastructure point, I think we need to be clear what we consider to be infrastructure, and also what we think must be a public good vs. something which we are ok with business models being developed around. Not to make too much of the "roads and bridges" analogy, but I do fear we'll just e

Re: [GOAL] Re : Re: SSRN Sellout to Elsevier

2016-05-20 Thread Éric Archambault
Should read Holtzbrincksevier, not Digisevier. ;-) Eric Archambault 1science.com Science-Metrix.com +1-514-495-6505 x111 On May 20, 2016, at 07:51, Peter Murray-Rust mailto:pm...@cam.ac.uk>> wrote: On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:22 PM, Éric Archamb

Re: [GOAL] Re : Re: SSRN Sellout to Elsevier

2016-05-20 Thread Peter Murray-Rust
On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:22 PM, Éric Archambault < eric.archamba...@science-metrix.com> wrote: > Isidro > > Not so sure. Two weeks ago while visiting university libraries in Europe I > saw that many of them are switching/considering to switch to their CRIS > instead of continuing to rely on thei

Re: [GOAL] Re : Re: SSRN Sellout to Elsevier

2016-05-18 Thread Stevan Harnad
either lacking data about > PURE instances – or if not, I do not agree that they are many.. Regards > Jessica Lindholm *From:* goal-boun...@eprints.org [ > mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org ] *On Behalf Of > *Ross Mounce *Sent:* den 17 maj 2016 22:54 *To:* Global Open Access Lis

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2016-05-18 Thread Leslie Carr
ints.org> [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org<mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org>] On Behalf Of Ross Mounce Sent: den 17 maj 2016 22:54 To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) mailto:goal@eprints.org>> Subject: Re: [GOAL] Re : Re: SSRN Sellout to Elsevier Elsevier have actually d

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2016-05-18 Thread Ulrich Herb
gt; > > *From:* goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] *On > Behalf Of *Ross Mounce > *Sent:* den 17 maj 2016 22:54 > *To:* Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) > *Subject:* Re: [GOAL] Re : Re: SSRN Sellout to Elsevier > > > > Elsevier have

Re: [GOAL] Re : Re: SSRN Sellout to Elsevier

2016-05-18 Thread Isidro F. Aguillo
es – or if not, I do not agree that they are many.. Regards Jessica Lindholm *From:* goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] *On Behalf Of *Ross Mounce *Sent:* den 17 maj 2016 22:54 *To:* Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) *Subject:* Re: [GOAL] Re : Re: SSRN

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2016-05-18 Thread David Prosser
; [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org<mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org>] On Behalf Of Ross Mounce Sent: den 17 maj 2016 22:54 To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) mailto:goal@eprints.org>> Subject: Re: [GOAL] Re : Re: SSRN Sellout to Elsevier Elsevier have actually done a reall

Re: [GOAL] Re : Re: SSRN Sellout to Elsevier

2016-05-18 Thread Éric Archambault
ess List (Successor of AmSci) mailto:goal@eprints.org>> Subject: Re: [GOAL] Re : Re: SSRN Sellout to Elsevier Elsevier have actually done a really good job of infiltrating institutional repositories too: http://rossmounce.co.uk/2013/01/25/elseviers-growing-monopoly-of-ip-in-academia/ They

Re: [GOAL] Re : Re: SSRN Sellout to Elsevier

2016-05-18 Thread Ross-Hellauer, Anthony
From: goal-boun...@eprints.org<mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org> [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of Ross Mounce Sent: den 17 maj 2016 22:54 To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) mailto:goal@eprints.org>> Subject: Re: [GOAL] Re : Re: SSRN Sellout to Elsevier

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2016-05-18 Thread Ross Mounce
un...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] *On > Behalf Of *Ross Mounce > *Sent:* den 17 maj 2016 22:54 > *To:* Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) > *Subject:* Re: [GOAL] Re : Re: SSRN Sellout to Elsevier > > > > Elsevier have actually done a really go

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2016-05-18 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
> > > > > From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On > Behalf Of Ross Mounce > Sent: den 17 maj 2016 22:54 > To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) > Subject: Re: [GOAL] Re : Re: SSRN Sellout to Elsevier > > > > > El

Re: [GOAL] Re : Re: SSRN Sellout to Elsevier

2016-05-18 Thread Jessica Lindholm
...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of Ross Mounce Sent: den 17 maj 2016 22:54 To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) Subject: Re: [GOAL] Re : Re: SSRN Sellout to Elsevier Elsevier have actually done a really good job of infiltrating institutional repositories too

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2016-05-18 Thread Arthur Sale
Of course. That is what one expects in a rational world. Arthur From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of Ross Mounce Sent: Wednesday, 18 May 2016 06:54 AM To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) Subject: Re: [GOAL] Re : Re: SSRN Sellout to

Re: [GOAL] Re : Re: SSRN Sellout to Elsevier

2016-05-17 Thread Éric Archambault
-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of Isidro F. Aguillo Sent: May 17, 2016 4:59 PM To: goal@eprints.org Subject: Re: [GOAL] Re : Re: SSRN Sellout to Elsevier To my knowledge a few universities are considering to use the CRIS software called PURE (by Elsevier, of course) instead of their current

Re: [GOAL] Re : Re: SSRN Sellout to Elsevier

2016-05-17 Thread Leslie Carr
The software may change, but you can't sell off a distributed network of independent repositories. Prof Leslie Carr Web Science institute #⃣ webscience #⃣ openaccess On 17 May 2016, at 21:35, Joachim SCHOPFEL mailto:joachim.schop...@univ-lille3.fr>> wrote: Uh - "the distributed network of Gree

Re: [GOAL] Re : Re: SSRN Sellout to Elsevier

2016-05-17 Thread Isidro F. Aguillo
To my knowledge a few universities are considering to use the CRIS software called PURE (by Elsevier, of course) instead of their current IRs. Main reason is the "not enough" added value of current IRs repository managers. Joachim SCHOPFEL escribió: > Uh - "the distributed network of Gree

Re: [GOAL] Re : Re: SSRN Sellout to Elsevier

2016-05-17 Thread Ross Mounce
Elsevier have actually done a really good job of infiltrating institutional repositories too: http://rossmounce.co.uk/2013/01/25/elseviers-growing-monopoly-of-ip-in-academia/ They bought Atira back in 2012 which created PURE which is the software that many of world's institutional repositories run

[GOAL] Re : Re: SSRN Sellout to Elsevier

2016-05-17 Thread Joachim SCHOPFEL
Uh - "the distributed network of Green institutional repositories worldwide is not for sale"? Not so sure - the green institutional repositories can be replaced by other solutions, can't they ? Better solutions, more functionalities, more added value, more efficient, better connected to databas