Foes become friends in Goa's political crisis
Pramod Acharya / CNN-IBN
Published on Saturday , July 28, 2007 at 08:53 in Nation section
Panjim (Goa): Atanasio Monsarrate, popularly known as Babush and Churchill
Alemao are some of the controversial names to figure in Goa's latest
toppling game
Dear Gilbert:
Regarding inquisition, lets agree to disagree. I
relied on the account of historuians like priolkar and
others ,and the last tiem i checked you were a
oncologist not a historian.
Regarding your insinuation that santosh is easy on me
and kamlaksh because of some sort of caste based
so
A friend wanted the contact of Vimala Devi -- email or address. Would
be grateful if anyone could offer the contacts. Thanks! FN
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Gilbert,
It appears you don't understand what is meant by
berating others, injecting communal sentiments and
having a double standard. I provide below examples of
these in your most recent post. I also provide a
bonus. You have now bested yourself by injecting, not
just communal, but racist/castei
Dear Chinmay,
The answers to your questions below are as follows:
Question 1 I don't know. Bosco will have to respond
to this.
Question 2 and 5 Yes.
Question 3 Others might perceive them as biased. I
am trying to be as objective as I can. But whether I
succeed in being objective or not is
Hei Gabe,
3. Re: Deeply Offensive Allegations.Bhandare. Re: Vol 2 Issue
619 Gabe Menezes (Gabe Menezes)
As a goan yourself you will know we are a very private and reserved people.
The quaint thing about goans is that we are sociable too without being
intrusive.
Having grown up in our 'goan
--- marshallmendonza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Dear Anita,
>
> Your mail on parenting was very thought provoking.
> While I agree with your views, I find the ground
> reality is quite different. There are so many
> factors that influence parenting - income,
> environment, society, family, moo
One of the netters requested me privately to send him the lyrics of
"MOLLBAILO DOV" along with English translation, which I did. I thought I
would share those lyrics on the net for the benefit of all.
ÂMOLLBAILO DOV from ÂAmchem Noxib film sung by Molly
Mogan assonk borem, jivit sukhi k
To,
The Editor,
Ms Meena Baghel
Mumbai Mirror
Mumbai
July 27, 2007
Clarification to `Mumbai Mirror' report dated July 26, 2007 titled `Film
Industry not for Goa as IFFI venue?'
Dear Editor,
This is with reference to the report `Film Industry not for Goa as IFFI
venue?' reported in your est
On 26/07/07, marshallmendonza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Rui,
>
> I read with interest your posers to Bhandare. While I leave it to him to
> answer, I invite your attention to the book ' We or our nationhood defined'
> authored by the former Chief of the RSS , MS Golwalkar. It will be very
On 26/07/07, rui nuvo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hei Lino,
>
> Thank you for that information.
>
> The 'avaz' for DEO is not the same as DEV. Sorry, not to me anyway. I
> wonder how many would agree with me. I come from Bardez. Our dialect
> is perhaps a lot more refined then that lot down south
Selma wrote:
Frederick is a combo of Che Guevera and Don Corleone
(jealous?). You on the other hand are a combo of Lord
Byron and Jacinth Vaz. More of Jacinth and less of
Byron. There are women, all over the world, who
succumb to your Jacinth Vaz ish charm, I'm sure. Some
of them want to know how
1. Deeply Offensive Allegations.Bhandare. Re: Vol 2, Issue 627
(marshallmendonza)
Hei Mashall,
Like I said my source has been the Internet Wikipedia which is
informative generally, but is also open to suspicion and abuse because
it is editable. I am aware therefore that I as a reader have no
Dear Mr. Wilson,
At the outset let me say that neither do I know Mr. Sequeira personally nor
am a supporter of any politician/party in this state. But going through your
mail, I am tempted to ask, how do you define a Goan? Better still, why are
you so intent on pressing for a Roman script? Do
Shame on this goverment !!! Bhagat singh, Rajguru and
Sukhdev have been referred as terrorists in an ICSE
6th standard class in social science subject text book
at page number 64 & 65 in Mumbai
. Get up friends
pass this message like fire
. Protest against this
Jai Hind
Instead of forwarding stu
My Beloved Goans
What a Shame..As seen on the TV news on Aaj Tak
joining hands with BJP Manohar Parrikar, UGDP Babush Monserrate, two MGP
Idiots, RSS & VHP Supporter and non-gaon Salgaokar and SGF Churchill Alemao
played a dirty role with the full backing support from h
Chinmay,
Here are my answers to your questions:
--- Bhandare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Why do you think I am predisposed against the Chuch?
>
I stated that you were sympathetic to the RSS ideology
that has such a predisposition. So no matter what you
say people will have that impression
Why Is the Cow Sacred?
By Rohit Arya
Q: Why are cows sacred?
A: In the chatrooms and message boards of the Internet, there are
often bitter disputes between Indians and Pakistanis, which usually
deteriorate into vulgar abuse. I have noticed that one of the most
common forms of hitting out at Hin
It is okay Gilbert. You don't have to explain
yourself. Nobody is perfect.
Cheers,
Santosh
--- Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I wished you had read and / or understood the few
> lines of my post to Fred where my review was
> mentioned. You totally missed the point of that
> p
Goa News from Yahoo! News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.
*** BJP-led alliance stakes claim to form govt in Goa (The
Times of India)
Goa Democratic Alliance staked its claim to form a government,
a day after the Congress-led ministry was reduced to
Please check this, Goan history timeline
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Goan_history
and this list of chief ministers from Goa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chief_Ministers_of_Goa
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We've blamed politicians and lobbies ...
How about discussing about citizens who collude with the system -- by
their silence or tacit encouragement? I know of expats who keep
groaning about corruption in Goa, only to make one or two speedy
visits here, sell their ancestral land (to one of our curre
The newly christened GOA DEMOCRATIC ALLIANCE formed on
26th July,2007 --consists of the following:
BJP
Laxmikant Y. Parsekar Mandrem, Dayanand Raghunath
Sopte Pernem, Adv. Francisco D' Souza, Mapusa
Dayanand R. Mandrekar Siolim, Dilip Dnyaneshwar
Parulekar Saligao, Manohar Parrikar Panjim, Rajesh
Could anyone help me to get in touch with "Bing" Harman D'Souza, the
journalist and theatre personality who was earlier based in New Delhi
and Bangalore? A friend of his from Kenya needs to get in touch.
Thanks! FN
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The pimps are those NGOs and associations who issue
advertisements and appeals to vote these politicos to
power...
and what do you call the people who vote for these
people? not victims, for sure!
-bhandare
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can u please let me know from where i can download them free?
nick gidson
porvorim, goa.
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Voice your questions and our experts will answer them
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Sometimes democracy works in a funny way. The musical
chair for Goa CM's post has been a hot political
subject for many years. Our cycle of CMs makes Goa a
ridicule.
As I write from Canada, i just came across a pamphlet
that says that there will be a referendum on voting on
oct 10. it says, "it's t
My dear Rico,
My definition of a Goan is one who has roots in Goa. Who have I left out
that you would like to see included?
Once again: What is your definition of a Goan? Are you saying that a
definition is not possible/desirable?
BTW. When was the first recorded usage of the word "Goan"?
Re
Goanetters,
As Joseph John states in his posting that even if one lives abroad for a
number of years you are still a Goan. My question is why are Goans not
coming back to Goa to live and selling their places to non-goans. They are
the ones who appreciate Goa's worth and not we Goans. How ca
Hi All,
Why are the RSS Goanetters jubilant when the very back bone of Goa's
stability and development (be it slow or otherwise - goans have a slow
attitude, anyway) is at stake?
Is this how the RSS operates? Kick people when their own kind are down? BJP
were NOT elected why don't they acce
GDA: Who am I ?
This has the reference to the ongoing political drama in Goa.
Where some of the top Goan political/greedy Donkeys come together and formed
Goan Donkey
Alliance (GDA). Gaddvam Duddvamche Axechim?
Who am I ?
With money and the muscle power, I can do anything (I really thought
Dear Editor,
This whole business of dirty politics in Goa is going from bad to worse. The
common man is fed up with these politicians who are all out for power and
making a fast buck. Politicians now days especially in Goa have no religion,
no God and no morals; they have sold their souls to t
Is Parrikar shure that he will be CM for next 1 year atleast . Who is going
to bear bielection cost. why "common Man" should bear the cost. The MLA who
are resigning from present assembly do they have any loyalty to their
voters. Why we should vote BJP again when BJP is handshaking with others to
In today's local English daily there was an article titled "Politicians game
of divide and rule". This seems a throwback to the days of the British Raj.
But in spite of reading and rereading I could not find out what the author
was referrng to in the Goa context. We all know who is divided. But who
[Selma]
A newsreader on a top English TV channel just signed off by saying "There's
never a dull moment in Goa's politics". It seems like Goa politics and
government is entertainment for the rest. Let's perfect our core competence
along the suggested lines!
Another fun item (environment related) for Goan school children at ENVIROZEST
2007
VIDYA VIKAS ACADEMY in association with GOA SUDHAROP (www.goasudharop.org)
presents ENVIROZEST
on Saturday, July 28, 2007 at Vidya Vikas Academy (ICSE), Comba, Margao, Goa.
Telephone : 0832
6571460/2706794 E
Selma, I think Kukru ku kuru was orginally sung by Tony Carr, and later Hema
Sardesai sang it for Chris Perry's album. I doubt there is any song by
Alfred Rose by that title.
Incidentaly, a fellow goan in US ...a great fan of Alfred Rose and a close
friend of
"Alfritz" (Alfred & Rita) was inqu
"CARMO DCRUZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Subject: [Goanet] Congratulations Manoharbab - The new CM Of Goa !
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Congratulations Manoharbab - The new CM of Goa !
Well Done !
Good Bye Digamber Kamat !
Dr. Carmo D'Cruz
Hi George -- That was a good one.;) Btw, we know who the "madams" are, who
the "prostitutes" are and even who the clients are. But who are the "pimps"?
They need to be outed, right?
Bravo George,
You completely echo my sentiments. I could have not put it any better.
Saude,
Roland.
On 7/26/07, George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> News from the Goa Assembly...
>
> The brothel changes its Madam periodically.
>
> Regards,
> George
>
--
Roland Francis
Hello
I received a notification from Goa Research Net about some photos I had sent
them. I replied to Dr Teotonio D'Sousa that I hadn't sent him anything.
About the same time one Cedrico DaCosta sent me an angry email asking why I
was sending him virus laden pics. I wrote back saying that I ha
>
> The Digambar Kamat-led coalition government was
> virtually reduced to a
> minority as in a late night development, two-member
> MGP and Independent MLA
> Anil Salgaocar withdrew support to the ministry and
> Santa Cruz MLA and
> Parliamentary Secretary Victoria Fernandes quit the
> Congress a
Thanks Santana Afonso for supporting my views .Let's pray hard that Goa
get's a good governance under Digamber Kamat.
Regards
Bonefacio
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 Santana Afonso wrote :
Yes, you are true Mr. Bonefacio and I 100% support you.
Let me tell you one thing, even Churchill Alemao trys
House witnesses noisy scenes
NT Staff Reporter
Panaji, July 26 Noisy scenes over deciding on the
disqualification petition against Ms Victoria
Fernandes, the Congress MLA from St Cruz, prompted the
Speaker, Mr Pratapsingh Rane, to adjourn the state
assembly till Monday, giving a breather to th
Well done hardly a few months Governmanet has been formed, and its on the
way to a down fall. People have been fooled are now beeing robbed.15 to 20
crore for each withdrawal from the party whos money are they going to pay
the party members. Rob the people, rob Goa. This has been happening for t
Dear Readers,
Once again it's a sad story for Goans as their precious votes have never
been taken seriously by the representatives , but on the other hand it's a
good sign of transparency as one can see for themselves that if Goans want a
stable govt. then people like Babush and churchill wil
Dear Cedrico,
Thank you very much and God bless You.
Do not fear any but fear God. He is Great and No one is bigger than he.
Goanet sometimes get fits and that's why some articles do not published. But
Goanet is always feared Anthony Veronica Fernandes.As for me I
do not care and
Dear goanet readers
I compliment Selma, on the defination of a goan. I feel when one has Goa
at heart, irrespective if one is living in Goa, or accross the miiles for
years on end, as long as you think and ponder of the beauty, culture, grace
and charm that only Goa has, one is a true go
GOA POLICE TO CURB DRUG TRADE
Goa Police to curb drug trade, foreigners under scanner.
Press Trust Of India
Panaji, July 21, 2007
Concerned by the presence of a drug cartel in Goa, police are acting against
foreigners overstaying in the state as part of efforts to curb the illegal
trade in
Date: 24th July, 2007.
Ref:JU/CL/2007-08/e-
Dear Friends,
As of now, the Scientific Temper Workshop in Margao
will be held at Jan Ugahi Trust, Margao on Sunday
29-7-07 from 10 a.m - 5 p.m.
Those wishing to participate may please email us at
the earliest at the above id or contact us on Te
Hi Santosh,
Thanks for your post on this thread. There is no "communal sentiment" in my
post to you. Bhandare has given you an opportunity to taken on the Sangh
Parrivar, RSS, etc., like he has given to the Christaums.
My request to you to "take on Bhandare", instead of advising Catholics h
Men's team Beijing-bound with gold
Canadian Press
July 26, 2007
RIO DE JANEIRO, BRAZIL -- Canada's men's field hockey
team is headed to the Beijing Olympics. Canada
defeated Argentina in a shootout in the gold-medal
game at the Pan American Games yesterday to qualify
for the Summer Games next yea
I thought Digambar would run govt efficiently:
Dhavalikar
NT Staff Reporter
Panaji, July 26 The Maharashtrawadi Gomantak Party
MLA, Mr Ramkrishna Dhavalikar today said that the slow
progress made by the administration under the Digambar
Kamat government prompted the MGP to withdraw its
support
Another ENVIROZEST 2007 contest this Saturday for Goan children
VIDYA VIKAS ACADEMY in association with GOA SUDHAROP (www.goasudharop.org)
presents ENVIROZEST
on Saturday, July 28, 2007 at Vidya Vikas Academy (ICSE), Comba, Margao, Goa.
Telephone : 0832
6571460/2706794 Email : [EMAIL PROTEC
Awarding cabinet rank is normal practice, says Eduardo
Faleiro
HERALD NEWS DESK
PANJIM, JULY 25 Non Resident Affairs Department was
created to look into the affairs of the Goan community
overseas. And the department of Non Resident Affairs
has been introducing many measures to ensure that the
Victoria still member of House, says Speaker
NT Staff Reporter
Panaji, July 26 The Speaker, Mr Pratapsingh Rane has
said that he would decide on the issue of
disqualification of Ms Victoria Fernandes, the
Congress MLA from St Cruz, for having defied the party
whip by remaining absent during vot
Sacred bull in Britain to be slaughtered despite Hindu protests
Jul 25, 2007, 15:47 GMT
London - A sacred bullock revered by a community of Hindu monks in
Britain is to be slaughtered on health grounds despite months of
protests and top-level legal wrangling, it was announced Wednesday.
Shambo,
Hei Gabe,
A little Quixotic don't you think that last posing? Who, where, what
is this 'Opposition' you referring to? For all we know you could be
attacking some Windmills outside your London pad and then looking to
the size of your e-mail bag to announce that you have won and sent
these windmill
A Goan is a creation of accidents of history... specifically
Portuguese colonialism (and treaties created with rulers of nearby
territories who had their own interests at the centre of things more
than anything else). We should not take this too seriously.
The only solution is to be inclusivist. G
Lots of interesting legal issues here:
http://hcbombayatgoa.nic.in/
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Hi Bhandare,
You have stated incorrect facts related to the Goan inquisition. In fairness
to you, you have not repeated them after I pointed that to you.
My comment to you is that offense (or being offensive) is not the best form of
defense. That is usually the approach of extremists. Often w
GOA'S CHOPPY HISTORY
Defections and collapse of governments are regular features in Goa politics.
Goa used to have a stable government till 1990. For the first time in 1990,
Churchil Alemao (the then deputy speaker) and Louis Proto Barbosa (the then
Speaker) put an end to the Congress CM Prata
Citizens' Initiatives for Communal Harmony (CICH)
cordially invites you to
A Public Talk on the subject
"Communal Threats to Secular Democracy in India"*
By Prof. Ram Puniyani
at Narcinva Damodar Naik Hall (Adarsh Hall), Margao
on Wednesday 1 August 2007, 5.30 pm
The talk will be followed by
Hei All,
I thought all goans could associate to a village and the rest were
itinerant gypsies.
I know of one family who had moved to our village from another village
more then 2-3 generations before. I understand that they not accepted
as 'belonging' to our village. They did not enjoy the same r
Yellow from the sun
Blue from the sea
A Group Show of
Chaitali
Irene Vezin
Francis D'Souza
Praveen Naik
Rajendra Upaskar
Santosh Morajkar
Subodh Kerkar
Suhas Shilker
Swatee Nair
Harshada Kerkar
Deviprasad C. Rao
at
Gallery Beyond
130/132 Great Western Bldg
SBS Marg, Near Lions Gate, Fort
Mum
Dear Santosh:
"Bosco has denied that he was referring to P. L.
Deshpande's quote."
Then what was he referring to? where did this idea of
hindi blogs come into the picture?
You said:
"My guess is that being sympathetic to an ideology
that is predisposed against the Church you cannot be
very obje
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