Re: [Goanet] Science and Churchy reasoning

2008-03-16 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Hi Fr. Ivo, For a supurlo goenkar to get sincere blessings from a padre is real meaningful. Perhaps you did not read my last post to you. Here is a repeat posting since I appreciate your thoughts on this topic: Every one had an opportunity to seek Fr. Ivo's opinion. My questions are not

Re: [Goanet] Science and Churchy reasoning

2008-03-16 Thread Fr. Ivo da C. Souza
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Re: [Goanet] Science and Churchy reasoning

2008-03-15 Thread Fr. Ivo da C. Souza
Dear Dr.Gilbert Lawrence, You wrote: Whatever happened to: There is one God and there are several ways to get to heaven? Of course to get to heaven, the soul has to live after death. Oops! did I say something heretical - like soul, life after death, heaven and God? *Thank you, Dr.Gilbert,

Re: [Goanet] Science and Churchy reasoning

2008-02-09 Thread Fr. Ivo da C. Souza
Dear Selma, Thanks for your reaction and congratulations for your curiosity and concern for Science and Philosophy. I referred to the principle of causality since your posting was addressed to Dr.Santosh, and I found that there was a reference to what I said in my posting. Dear Fr. Ivo,

Re: [Goanet] Science and Churchy reasoning

2008-02-08 Thread Santosh Helekar
Dear Santosh, Both Goanet and America have been a great source of learning for me .. that traditional philosophy itself has become obsolete in light of advances made by science. Dear Selma, You are quite

Re: [Goanet] Science and Churchy reasoning

2008-02-08 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So your conclusion below - most likely wrong is a mistake. Such basic mistakes are not good for a scientist.:=)) Hi Gilbert, You are most likely wrong about Spinoza because of the wrong assumptions you make in the following quote of yours: He did

Re: [Goanet] Science and Churchy reasoning

2008-02-08 Thread Carvalho
--- Fr. Ivo da C. Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *You are wrong on this point. Let me repeat here that the principle of causality has not become obsolete in light of advances made by science. -- Dear Fr. Ivo, Thanks for responding. However, I was not referring to

Re: [Goanet] Science and Churchy reasoning

2008-02-07 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Hi Santosh, As I will be away for 10 days, I am breaking my own rules in sending two posts to goanet in one day. Accepting what one does not know or has limited knowledge or understanding off is the first step to progress and learning. So I am not wrong about Spinoza. I state, I do not know

Re: [Goanet] Science and Churchy reasoning

2008-02-07 Thread Alfred de Tavares
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:59:16 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Science and Churchy reasoning --- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Selma, I am pleasant surprised that you are pursuing the ideas that we discussed

Re: [Goanet] Science and Churchy reasoning

2008-02-07 Thread Fr. Ivo da C. Souza
Dear Teotonio: Thanks for your intervention. I fully agree with you. I have been interested in this topic from my young days. Science has advanced to such an extent that it cannot either prove or disprove the existence of God. Religion has advanced to such an extent as not to need the support of

Re: [Goanet] Science and Churchy reasoning

2008-02-07 Thread Fr. Ivo da C. Souza
Dear Selma, I read with interest your comments addressed to Dr.Santosh. They refer, to some extent, to my write-ups. I would like to react to them briefly. You wrote: Recently I borrowed a copy of Spinoza from the library determined to read about consciousness and modes (didn't get

Re: [Goanet] Science and Churchy reasoning

2008-02-06 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
My understanding of religion and theological / philosophical concepts is limited. So, I like to read writings on Religion made simple. So now I (GL) am trying to figure out what Selma (SC) says in her post below. Here are some questions ... por favor SC: Recently I borrowed a copy of Spinoza

Re: [Goanet] Science and Churchy reasoning

2008-02-06 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My understanding of religion and theological / philosophical concepts is limited. So, I like to read writings on Religion made simple. Since Gilbert is not a philosopher, and because his understanding of philosophical concepts is limited, by his

Re: [Goanet] Science and Churchy reasoning

2008-02-06 Thread Carvalho
--- Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When did Goan society loose that equilibrium between science and spirituality? Anytime in the last 200 years? -- Dear vodlo irmao Gilbert, Since I don't read 3/4th of Goanet posts, I almost missed yours. Perhaps it

Re: [Goanet] Science and Churchy reasoning

2008-02-05 Thread Carvalho
--- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Selma, I am pleasant surprised that you are pursuing the ideas that we discussed in the past in a substantive way. It is very rare that anybody takes what I say seriously in this lay public forum. Dear Santosh,

Re: [Goanet] Science and Churchy reasoning

2008-02-04 Thread Santosh Helekar
Hi Teotoniobab, Yes, such discussions are going on for a long time. But I am sure you will agree that from a scientific perspective the light is much brighter today. Most of the progress that has occurred since then is because of the discovery of new natural facts, methods and ideas. This is true

[Goanet] Science and Churchy reasoning

2008-02-03 Thread Teotonio R. de Souza
Dear Santosh, Fr. Ivo, et al I have been following your discussions with some interest. They date back to the days of 18th century enlightenment in Europe! And they are still going on because it is difficult to reconcile human interests? Were the ardent defenders of enlightenment necessarily

Re: [Goanet] Science and Churchy reasoning

2008-02-03 Thread Carvalho
--- Teotonio R. de Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Santosh, Fr. Ivo, et al I have been following your discussions with some interest. They date back to the days of 18th century enlightenment in Europe! And they are still going on because it is difficult to reconcile human interests?