[Goanet] M F Hussain, saint or sinner

2010-03-17 Thread Edward Verdes
Dotor bab, I had asked yo the question because I was sure that you did not hear the songs..If you had really heard all the songs you would not come to the wrong conclusion...the meaning of Bodmass itself says a lot about Calvert. Fyi, there are 14 songs on this CD and of these 5 songs are

[Goanet] M F Hussain, saint or sinner

2010-03-15 Thread anil desai
Edward wrote: Dotor Bab, Did you hear all the songs from CD 'Dogui Bodmass Produced by CALVERT? If so what are your views? Edward Verdes Response: Since you asked this question, I heard one song on youtube. I heard two serious accusations made against the priest of Colva. You may or may not

[Goanet] M F Hussain, saint or sinner

2010-03-15 Thread Marshall Mendonza
Dr Anil Desai: 1. Do you really believe that the whole controversy about Tasleema Nasreen is about Hindu extremists using her case for political purposes( as you have put it)? 2. Can we read your views about the violence in Colva and the treatment meted out to Culvert and the actions of religious

[Goanet] M F Hussain- Saint or Sinner

2010-03-15 Thread Marshall Mendonza
Dr Anil Desai: The pseudo-secularist political operators in India see bad in Hindu religion only. Response: 1. I have several times stated very clearly that violence or hate is no answer to any disagreement or dispute. You are welcome to run through the Goanet archives where you will find

[Goanet] M F Hussain saint or sinner

2010-03-14 Thread Marshall Mendonza
Anil Desai: About freedom of expression: It should be exercised with responsibility. Response: 1. Who decides the threshold - the artiste, civil society, the judiciary or extremist elements? 2. After the judiciary decides, can extremist elements continue to obstruct justice or order? 3. What is

[Goanet] M F Hussain, saint or sinner

2010-03-14 Thread anil desai
Marshall wrote: Samir One important point in this entire discussion on MF Hussain which everyone seems to be missing out is that the so called offensive paintings were created over 40 years ago. They were exhibited in art galleries, viewed by artists and art connoisseurs and did not raise

Re: [Goanet] M F Hussain, saint or sinner

2010-03-14 Thread Edward Verdes
Dotor Bab, Did you hear all the songs from CD 'Dogui Bodmass Produced by CALVERT? If so what are your views? Edward Verdes - Original Message - From: anil desai 2. Can we read your views about the violence in Colva and the treatment meted out to Culvert and the actions of

[Goanet] M F Hussain: saint or sinner

2010-03-14 Thread anil desai
Samir wrote: I find it very glaring that while everyone rushes to Hussein's defense, not one of the so-called secular fighters came in defense of Tasleema when she was hounded. REsponse: Samir, This included Marshall whose fingers must have gone numb when he tried to write something insupport

[Goanet] M F Hussain : saint or sinner?

2010-03-14 Thread Dr. U. G. Barad
I was touched with the following paragraph from Marshall's post: All in all, hindutva is giving Hinduism a bad name. Hinduism has through the ages welcomed and sheltered all religions. Nowhere in the world will one see the portraits of all types of gods and deities displayed, and treated

[Goanet] M F Hussain Saint or sinner

2010-03-12 Thread anil desai
Marshall wrote: I must congratulate Sandeep Heble for this article which is so well written. Regards, Marshall Response: I agree but would Sandeep not get more credibility if he wrote similar articles on the activities of religious extremists in the cases of Dogui Bodmas in his backyard and

[Goanet] M F Hussain Saint or sinner?

2010-03-12 Thread Samir Kelekar
Anil Desai writes: Or is there no tradition amongst Indian pseudo secularists of being critical towards non-hindu extremists? Good point. Further, Sandeep's argument saying Hussein painted Hindu Goddesses nude because of the tradition in the Hindu religion, while he didnt do the equivalent

Re: [Goanet] M F Hussain Saint or sinner?

2010-03-12 Thread Santosh Helekar
Accusing an artist of hypocrisy for creating something based on his/her own likes and dislikes is pointless and silly. The essence of any art is artistic freedom. An artist is free to create anything he fancies or fantasizes about. Nobody can tell him what to create and what not to create. All

[Goanet] M F Hussain : saint or sinner?

2010-03-12 Thread Samir Kelekar
Sandeep article on M F Hussain is a height of hypocrisy. While Sandeep calls the saga of Hussain a cruel reflection of our times and our society’s growing Intolerance. Sandeep has no comment on what Hussain's obligation to his own religion is. Sandeep calls opposition to Hussain's painting as a

[Goanet] M F Hussain saint or sinner

2010-03-12 Thread anil desai
Marshall wrote: Freedom of Speech or expression is not absolute. It is restricted and contained by the conditions around us. That is why Tendulkar and Gavaskar cannot speak freely on certain issues in Bombay. That is why Karan Johar, Amitabh Bachhan, Shah Rukh Khan and other artistes have to

Re: [Goanet] M F Hussain Saint or sinner

2010-03-12 Thread J. Colaco jc
I must congratulate anil desai for his post which is so well written. It is possible that both Sandeep and Marshall will now decide to do the needful. If they do not, they'd be NO different from the other bigots who might be reading this. jc == [1] Marshall Mendonza wrote: I must

[Goanet] M F Hussain : saint or sinner?

2010-03-12 Thread Marshall Mendonza
Samir One important point in this entire discussion on MF Hussain which everyone seems to be missing out is that the so called offensive paintings were created over 40 years ago. They were exhibited in art galleries, viewed by artists and art connoisseurs and did not raise anyone's hackles.