[google-appengine] Re: Incoming mail for custom domain?

2009-10-22 Thread Andrey Petrov
You're correct, I just noticed this in the docs today: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/mail/overview.html#Receiving_Mail > Note that even if your app is deployed on a custom domain, your app can't > receive email sent to addresses on that domain. Your workaround does indeed work,

[google-appengine] Re: Datastore statistics not available

2009-10-22 Thread Tim Hoffman
Hi Jeff I sent the appid to you direct. We are a way off going live. Thanks Tim On Oct 23, 8:26 am, "Jeff S (Google)" wrote: > Hi Tim, > > Ah I see, would you mind telling me your app ID? I'd like to look into this > to make sure there isn't some other reason. > > Thank you, > > Jeff > > On

[google-appengine] Re: Datastore statistics not available

2009-10-22 Thread Jeff S (Google)
Hi Tim, Ah I see, would you mind telling me your app ID? I'd like to look into this to make sure there isn't some other reason. Thank you, Jeff On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Tim Hoffman wrote: > > HI Jeff > > I am in the same boat, only a few thousand entities, but about 30 > models > and

[google-appengine] Re: View this page "Google App Engine Open Source Projects"

2009-10-22 Thread niklasr
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[google-appengine] Re: Datastore statistics not available

2009-10-22 Thread Tim Hoffman
HI Jeff I am in the same boat, only a few thousand entities, but about 30 models and a few are very big (lots of properties) and I haven't got any statistics yet. (The app has been deployed for 3 days) I assume I blowing out your 100KB limit. T On Oct 22, 4:32 am, "Jeff S (Google)" wrote: > H

[google-appengine] Re: UserService.createLogoutURL() creates wrong URL when using hosted domain

2009-10-22 Thread dflorey
This is a known issue and has been ignored by Google so far. On 22 Okt., 06:33, wezard wrote: > Hello. > > The logout is normally done when redirecting it to URL generated with > createLoginURL in the Apps environment of an original domain. > > However, it doesn't live ..redirecting after the lo

[google-appengine] View this page "Google App Engine Open Source Projects"

2009-10-22 Thread Jason (Google)
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[google-appengine] Re: 500 error on console page. Anybody else see this?

2009-10-22 Thread mably
Yep had same 500 errors and couldn't deploy from Eclipse. On 22 oct, 19:16, johnP wrote: > It seems that Appengine is having a bad-cloud day > > :) > > On Oct 22, 10:08 am, Jason Smith wrote: > > > > > I started seeing several 500 errors from my own app just now, and now > > even the admin page

[google-appengine] Re: 500 error on updating indexes

2009-10-22 Thread Travis
Thanks again. I'm currently at 75 indexes, yet it's saying that I'm over my quota: "Error 400: --- begin server output --- Over index creation quota: The API call datastore_v3.CreateIndex() required more quota than is available. --- end server output ---" I'm only trying to upload 10 indexes, so

[google-appengine] Re: 4Mb in datastore statistic = 2,4Gb in Stored Data Resource

2009-10-22 Thread Neves
Totally agree! On Oct 22, 12:12 pm, WeatherPhilip wrote: > Given that this question comes up again and again, I think it would be > highly desirable for Google to improve the datastore statistics page > to > > (a) show the total size consumed by the indexes > (b) show the size consumed by each i

[google-appengine] Re: Tragedy of the Commons, and Cold Starts

2009-10-22 Thread ted stockwell
On Oct 22, 1:22 pm, gae123 wrote: > > you bring up a lot of good points but I was wondering what triggered > your e-mail and what makes you believe that we are actually in this > sort of "destructive cycle"? > Devel63 stated in his opening message that his/her application was being cycled out

[google-appengine] Re: Tragedy of the Commons, and Cold Starts

2009-10-22 Thread gae123
Hi Devel63, you bring up a lot of good points but I was wondering what triggered your e-mail and what makes you believe that we are actually in this sort of "destructive cycle"? Thanks On Oct 21, 8:31 pm, Devel63 wrote: > I fear we are in a destructive cycle: >   - Cold starts take a long time

[google-appengine] Re: Task Queue During Maintenance

2009-10-22 Thread Jon McAlister
No, there will not be periodic maintenances for task queues like there are for datastore. On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:59 AM, djidjadji wrote: > > Will the Task Queue systems ever be under maintenance? > > 2009/10/19 Jon McAlister : >> >> Yep. The latency of execution may be affected but it will a

[google-appengine] Re: How does The Python datastore select the class for an entity (or: swapping classes through the datastore)?

2009-10-22 Thread gae123
Nick and Rafe, this is great to know. Am I correct to assume that this gives us an easy way to rename classes? Let's say I had this: class Foo(db.Model): and want to rename it to Bar in my code but I have an app already running with lots of data. I can just say: class Bar(db.Model):

[google-appengine] Re: Incoming mail for custom domain?

2009-10-22 Thread Wooble
I'm pretty sure this is unsupported. The workaround would be to use set up the account in Google Apps, log in to Gmail, and forward messages to your appspot email address. On Oct 22, 1:34 am, Andrey Petrov wrote: > Hi, I <3 the new incoming mail feature for appengine, but how can I > use it for

[google-appengine] problem uploading .csv data with remote_api

2009-10-22 Thread chemuto
Hi! I´m getting an error while trying to upload data from a .csv. I need to do some post processing using handle_entity, but I think i'm getting the error before entering that function. Could anyone help me to figure out why im getting the error? thanks! The call: appcfg.py upload_data --config

[google-appengine] Newbie question about Task Queue

2009-10-22 Thread fhtino
Hello, I was testing Task Queue. It works fine. :) I'd like to repeat a task many time during the day, example 1 run every 10 minutes. But when the task is executed, it's deleted from the Queue. How can I run again the task? Should I use Scheduled Tasks (cron.xml) ? I've also tryed to enque a

[google-appengine] Datastore and Data Viewer Failures

2009-10-22 Thread Chris H
Hi, I have been using the datastore to store around 1.5 million entries and had no issues adding entries. When we came to delete them though the datastore performance has become almost unusable. I`m now getting frequent connection errors. I wrote a small batch method to delete entries from the da

[google-appengine] UserService.createLogoutURL() creates wrong URL when using hosted domain

2009-10-22 Thread wezard
Hello. The logout is normally done when redirecting it to URL generated with createLoginURL in the Apps environment of an original domain. However, it doesn't live ..redirecting after the logout is processed.. ahead as it is an expectation. http://MyApplication.appspot.com/_ah/logout?continue

[google-appengine] Incoming mail for custom domain?

2009-10-22 Thread Andrey Petrov
Hi, I <3 the new incoming mail feature for appengine, but how can I use it for my custom domain? I presume I'd need to set my MX records to something... I tried setting them to the default Google Apps GMail ones (aspmx.l.google.com,alt1.aspmx.l.google.com, etc.) but when I send mail whate...@

[google-appengine] Re: 500 error on console page. Anybody else see this?

2009-10-22 Thread johnP
It seems that Appengine is having a bad-cloud day :) On Oct 22, 10:08 am, Jason Smith wrote: > I started seeing several 500 errors from my own app just now, and now > even the admin page is inaccessible. Is this happening to anybody > else? > > The status page has the datastore in the "inves

[google-appengine] 500 error on console page. Anybody else see this?

2009-10-22 Thread Jason Smith
I started seeing several 500 errors from my own app just now, and now even the admin page is inaccessible. Is this happening to anybody else? The status page has the datastore in the "investigating" state. I assume that is an automated flag once latency gets too high, but I don't know. Is anybod

[google-appengine] Re: Tragedy of the Commons, and Cold Starts

2009-10-22 Thread ted stockwell
On Oct 22, 10:55 am, Devel63 wrote: > > Speeding up cold starts is clearly the best solution, but I don't know > how much time pre-compiling would save.  Paying for warm instances may > help, but because anyone can auto-ping every second, the tragedy of > the commons will still proceed to its i

[google-appengine] Re: Tragedy of the Commons, and Cold Starts

2009-10-22 Thread Devel63
In a separate thread, someone from Google confirmed that they compile all the files from scratch with each load. Speeding up cold starts is clearly the best solution, but I don't know how much time pre-compiling would save. Paying for warm instances may help, but because anyone can auto-ping eve

[google-appengine] Re: db.allocate_ids

2009-10-22 Thread ryan baldwin
How is this affected when you copy your data from 1 app to another (say, PROD app to an internal UAT version of the app)? Thanks. - ryan. On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Nick Johnson (Google) < nick.john...@google.com> wrote: > Hi Ryan, > IDs allocated with allocate_ids will never be reused -

[google-appengine] Re: How does The Python datastore select the class for an entity (or: swapping classes through the datastore)?

2009-10-22 Thread Rafe
So, what's happening here is that when a class gets registered there is a mapping from kind to class just as Nick said. This mapping will be the last class that you created with that unqualified name. In this case, your last mapping is y.A. From that point on, every time you load an entity fro

[google-appengine] Re: Does Gdata Python Client ProgrammaticLogin works in a Google App Engine Task?

2009-10-22 Thread Michelschr
Yes! gdata.alt.appengine.run_on_appengine(client, store_tokens=False, single_user_mode=True) (Tanks for the stars :-) On Oct 21, 7:42 pm, Michelschr wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I want to access one (and only one) spreadsheet of a user from within > a task of a google app engine application. >

[google-appengine] Re: Datastore timeouts

2009-10-22 Thread Matthew Blain
We are currently investigating an issue with high latency and error rate in the datastore. --Matthew On Oct 22, 7:04 am, dflorey wrote: > I'm experiencing a lot of 500ers when accessing App Engine apps or > dashboard. > Something weird in going on there... > > On 22 Okt., 15:46, Michael wrote:

[google-appengine] Re: Datastore timeouts

2009-10-22 Thread bFlood
seeing a lot of datastore read latency on multiple apps On Oct 22, 10:04 am, dflorey wrote: > I'm experiencing a lot of 500ers when accessing App Engine apps or > dashboard. > Something weird in going on there... > > On 22 Okt., 15:46, Michael wrote: > > > > > I was seeing this problem again fe

[google-appengine] Re: 4Mb in datastore statistic = 2,4Gb in Stored Data Resource

2009-10-22 Thread WeatherPhilip
Given that this question comes up again and again, I think it would be highly desirable for Google to improve the datastore statistics page to (a) show the total size consumed by the indexes (b) show the size consumed by each index I would hope that (a) would be calculated as the sum of (b) rath

[google-appengine] Re: Datastore timeouts

2009-10-22 Thread dflorey
I'm experiencing a lot of 500ers when accessing App Engine apps or dashboard. Something weird in going on there... On 22 Okt., 15:46, Michael wrote: > I was seeing this problem again few minutes ago. > It's certainly only on writes. (I switched app version to save logs. > If you want, you can lo

[google-appengine] Re: Taskqueue not following my rate limit

2009-10-22 Thread Greg Tracy
ah... makes perfect sense. thank you for this! On Oct 21, 7:23 am, David Symonds wrote: > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:04 AM, Greg Tracy wrote: > > queue: > > - name: email-queue > >  rate: 8/m > >  bucket_size: 10 > > Do you understand the effect of the bucket_size parameter? I bet you > proba

[google-appengine] Re: Datastore timeouts

2009-10-22 Thread Michael
I was seeing this problem again few minutes ago. It's certainly only on writes. (I switched app version to save logs. If you want, you can look at logs of beta19, app id: sovpad). It lasted around 5 minutes (6:32 - 6:37) On Oct 22, 1:47 am, Michael wrote: > Timeouts were on writes (as far as i

[google-appengine] Re: Tragedy of the Commons, and Cold Starts

2009-10-22 Thread bFlood
agreed, this a catch22 for low request sites. pinging only goes so far and seems completely wasteful (for everyone) I'd love to know if they precompile python modules (and if not, there must be a good reason why) paid for warm instances - yes! cheers brian On Oct 22, 7:25 am, ted stockwell wro

[google-appengine] Re: Add Domain does not work

2009-10-22 Thread Wooble
;; ANSWER SECTION: www.lordjoe.com.60 IN A 72.5.169.70 You need a CNAME pointing to ghs.google.com, not some third-party server redirecting there. On Oct 21, 11:50 pm, lordjoe wrote: > What is it? *.www.lordjoe.comredirects to ghs.google.com exactlyh > like *.www.erlana

[google-appengine] Re: db.allocate_ids

2009-10-22 Thread Nick Johnson (Google)
Hi Ryan, IDs allocated with allocate_ids will never be reused - the functionality is equivalent to the numbering for auto-generated IDs on entities. -Nick Johnson On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 9:47 PM, ryan baldwin wrote: > How long are id's reserved for when using db.allocate_ids? Forever? 60 > seco

[google-appengine] Re: Static File Serving

2009-10-22 Thread stumpy
Thanks for the suggestion but I am already setting the expiry header in the appengine-web.xml file. As part of my built script I rename static resources with an MD5 hash as part of the file name and set the expires header for a year in the future. These MD5'ed files are being served to my englan

[google-appengine] Re: Tragedy of the Commons, and Cold Starts

2009-10-22 Thread ted stockwell
On Oct 21, 10:31 pm, Devel63 wrote: > > I see only 2 ways out: > Another way would be for Google to charge to keep applications warm. Amazon has a similar feature where you can pay extra to reserve EC2 instances to make sure that the instance are always available. Keeping apps warm is quite re

[google-appengine] Re: remoteAPI and taskqueue - all tasks with ETA 60 mins?!?

2009-10-22 Thread Scott Ellis
It seems a bit odd - I would have thought the remote API could work that out automatically. Thanks Nick for the explanation. 2009/10/22 Nick Johnson (Google) > Hi Scott, > This is because when using the remote_api_shell, your local system time is > used, while App Engine uses UTC. You need to se

[google-appengine] Re: remoteAPI and taskqueue - all tasks with ETA 60 mins?!?

2009-10-22 Thread Nick Johnson (Google)
Hi Scott, This is because when using the remote_api_shell, your local system time is used, while App Engine uses UTC. You need to set an ETA on any tasks you insert - for example: deferred.defer(somefunc, _eta=datetime.datetime.now()-datetime.timedelta(hours=1)) -Nick Johnson On Thu, Oct 22, 200

[google-appengine] Re: Transactions and shraded counters

2009-10-22 Thread djidjadji
I think Nick told this group that if you have to update the object 1 or 2 times per second there is no need to use sharded counters. It just depends on how rapidly it is for your object. I think you missed what sharding is about. If your application needs to update a counter object many times a s

[google-appengine] My app engine wishlist

2009-10-22 Thread dflorey
I'm working with app engine (Java) for quite a while now and as Christmas is near, it is time to publish my wishlist: Improvements in the admin interface: - Logs: Right now when scrolling through the pages after a while the formatting is gone and the back link is not working any more Respect

[google-appengine] Re: Static File Serving

2009-10-22 Thread Nick Johnson (Google)
Hi, If you set an expiration time for your static content, it may be cached at geographically diverse endpoints. Without one, it won't be, as it doesn't know how long it's safe to cache for. http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/config/appconfig.html#Static_File_Handlers *-Nick Johnson * O

[google-appengine] Re: Taskqueue not following my rate limit

2009-10-22 Thread Prashant
any suggestion? any one? i'm still waiting for a reply. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe

[google-appengine] Re: How does The Python datastore select the class for an entity (or: swapping classes through the datastore)?

2009-10-22 Thread OvermindDL1
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Tonny wrote: > > Thank you or the reply. This is great news - if I understood it > correctly it means moving model classes to new modules is possible > (redesign/cleanups). > > What i don't understand is how GAE searches for the actual class, > given that it only

[google-appengine] Re: Task Queue During Maintenance

2009-10-22 Thread djidjadji
Will the Task Queue systems ever be under maintenance? 2009/10/19 Jon McAlister : > > Yep. The latency of execution may be affected but it will always > accept and persist incoming tasks even during maintenance mode. > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Robin B wrote: >> >> Will the task queue b