Re: [google-appengine] 1.6.3 Prerelease SDK Available

> > - Using Google Apps wildcard domain mappings, you can access alternate > versions of your app via a custom domain. > > Does this mean that we will be able to map non-default version of an app to a custom domain ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [google-appengine] problem in upload data using remote_api and loader

Hi, You didn't really give details about the command you're actually trying to run, but you might try calling appcfg with "-A s~finaldidi" Robert On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 04:42, didi wrote: > hello everyone, > > I referenced the artical > http://code.google.com/intl/en/appengine/docs/python

Re: [google-appengine] The API call file.Create() took too long to respond and was cancelled

It is also reported in: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=6888 There have been several others reporting similar issues lately: https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=app+engine+groups+http%3A%2F%2Fcode.google.com%2Fp%2Fgoogleappengine%2Fissues%2Fdeta

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Need documentation of various limits/quotas regarding concurrent requests

Why are you doing this rather than using a service such as beaconpush.com? As for wanting limits thoroughly documented, I could not agree more. This is some thing that should be done, and I frankly can't understand why it isn't. I would like to see something like: http://code.google.com/p/goog

[google-appengine] Re: 1.6.3 Prerelease SDK Available

Great news indeed! This puts App Engine ahead of Amazon SES, at least in the case of DKIM. Amazon does not sign mails automatically. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googl

Re: [google-appengine] Re: 1.6.3 Prerelease SDK Available

Hey Marzia, Hopefully it will find its way to the dashboard soon though ? :) Robert On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 14:21, Marzia Niccolai wrote: > Hi Robert, > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Robert Kluin > wrote: >> >> These are some of the best features in recent releases: >>  - Dat

Re: [google-appengine] Re: App Engine Takes 20 secs to serve some times

Just a note, you can confirm that this is indeed the issue by looking at the logs. If it is just your apps startup time you'll see a "loading_request=1" following the latency info (when you expand the log entry). Robert On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 00:59, Krishnan PA wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 21,

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Task Queue Craziness

I agree that it is dangerous to blindly catch all errors. However, in this case you could catch and log the full trace. That way you get your logging info, but you don't get dupes. try: # do ... lots ... of ... things raise Exception('Ka Powww!') except: logging.exception('A t

[google-appengine] Re: Task Queue Craziness

Hi James, Look at item 5: http://googleappengine.blogspot.com/2009/06/10-things-you-probably-didnt-know-about.html Cost is the same: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/datastore/entities.html Batching entity puts may significantly decrease your latency if it fits what you are doing. Yo

[google-appengine] Re: App Engine Takes 20 secs to serve some times

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 3:57 PM, pradeep wrote: > Hi All, > > Can any one help me to find the issue > > actually the Time of service changes every time I not getting what was > the reason > > It takes 20s for few times and it takes 65-100ms most of the time for > same service call > > And I am us

[google-appengine] Re: App Engine Takes 20 secs to serve some times

Jeff is right, it is most likely the startup time of your app. Paying $9 a month will not automatically give you an always on instance unless you set an idle instance and set a warmup requests file/script. In which case you will likely be paying more than $9. Even then it doesn't work very well wi

[google-appengine] Re: 2012 US PyCon -- GAE Related Sprints

What Robert meant by "several colleagues" is some guys from WebFilings. Shameless plug, we are also looking for talented developers to join our team, so look us up if you are interested. -Mike On Feb 21, 12:46 am, Robert Kluin wrote: > Hey Everyone, >   Myself and several colleagues are going

[google-appengine] Re: Authentication on a GAE App only for a selected Google Apps domains list

Is there some Google Employee who can help ? On 20 fév, 10:31, Antoine wrote: > Hello Robert, > > this happen when the user is not logged in and try to log the first > time using my url. > If the user is logged already (but going straight to gmail for > example) then provider list links are displ

[google-appengine] Re: Stuck delete in progress from Datastore Admin due to out of quota

I wanted to delete ~ 350K entities created before pricing change. It took about 1-2 weeks under free quota. But it did complete. You mat want to wait or if you really need it enable billing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group.

Re: [google-appengine] App Engine Takes 20 secs to serve some times

You're seeing "application startup time". That is, the time it takes to fire up an instance of your app when it isn't running in the cluster. If you're on the free tier, there's no guarantee your app is running all the time... GAE will shut it down if it sits idle If you enable billing ($9/mo),

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Python 2.7: Instance memory limitations with concurrent requests

Hi Mike, On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 7:22 AM, Mike Wesner wrote: > I would love to learn more from google on python memory handling.   As > Robert mentioned, we have observed that memory is not released/garbage > collected on python 2.5 instances.  It seems to just hold on to it. > This works because

[google-appengine] Re: images.GetUrlBase deadline problems since yesterday morning

We're experiencing the same issue, with varied images sizes and types. We are also getServingUrl() twice on a given key. Our app id is zealous-co (www.zealous.co / http://8.zealous-co.appspot.com/) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine"

[google-appengine] Re: Stuck delete in progress from Datastore Admin due to out of quota

See herefor a solution for the stuck operation issue. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the

[google-appengine] App Engine Takes 20 secs to serve some times

Hi All, Can any one help me to find the issue actually the Time of service changes every time I not getting what was the reason It takes 20s for few times and it takes 65-100ms most of the time for same service call And I am using multithread as true and the cache is basically the asynchronous

[google-appengine] problem in upload data using remote_api and loader

hello everyone, I referenced the artical http://code.google.com/intl/en/appengine/docs/python/tools/uploadingdata.html but it shows error message: BadRequestError: app s~finaldidi cannot access app finaldidi's data Could anyone helps me?thanks -- You received this message because you are subs

[google-appengine] The API call file.Create() took too long to respond and was cancelled

Hi there! we're getting this exception sometimes when trying to write a file to the blobstore. It usually appears for one or two minutes and then everything gets back to normal again. It's reported on http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=5723 but marked as closed. Do you guy

[google-appengine] Re: 1.6.3 Prerelease SDK Available

Great news ! Thanx for your answsers Moishe. François -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/-1jEo_42vQcJ. To post to this group, send e

[google-appengine] Re: 1.6.3 Prerelease SDK Available

And one last point of clarification: the request won't influence signing mail sent from an admin. The request could be user-initiated, or initiated by a cron job or task queue. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this

[google-appengine] Re: Python 2.7: Instance memory limitations with concurrent requests

I know that, but I thought it might still be relavant. On Feb 21, 3:13 pm, alex wrote: > The whole point of this topic was python27 runtime, multithreading and > concurrent requests. Your specific case, plus python 2.5, doesn't > necessarily means memory leaks in the runtime itself. I'd profile m

[google-appengine] Re: 1.6.3 Prerelease SDK Available

On Feb 21, 12:30 pm, Joshua Smith wrote: > The case that matters is when the server is sending an administrative email, > and we'd like the headers there to reduce the probability of those emails > being tagged as spam. > In most cases, nobody at all will be signed in. These emails might be comi

Re: [google-appengine] Re: 1.6.3 Prerelease SDK Available

Hi Marce, Most emails sent by my applications are sent from tasks and cron jobs. Will they be signed ? Thanx for your answer. François -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://gr

[google-appengine] Re: Python 2.7: Instance memory limitations with concurrent requests

The whole point of this topic was python27 runtime, multithreading and concurrent requests. Your specific case, plus python 2.5, doesn't necessarily means memory leaks in the runtime itself. I'd profile my code that handles most frequently accessed URLs to start off. -- You received this messa

Re: [google-appengine] Re: 1.6.3 Prerelease SDK Available

Yes, this is exactly the case we need. That registered owner, in our case, is not associated with the domain we are serving on. For example, the servers sends from the registered owner supp...@vendor.com, but the service is at coolstuff.vendor-services.com. -Joshua On Feb 21, 2012, at 2:34 PM,

Re: [google-appengine] Google, time for a little housekeeping

Thanks for the heads up. We have changes for both that will be rolled out shortly. Not quite "spring cleaning", but close enough. -- Chris On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Kenneth wrote: > The roadmap page needs > updating, I think there have

[google-appengine] Re: 1.6.3 Prerelease SDK Available

This is precisely our case and what we wanted. Not a corner case. Thanks. On Feb 21, 8:30 pm, Joshua Smith wrote: > If that's the only case where DKIM sigs happen, then please don't close the > issue, because this is a weird edge case that doesn't really matter. > (Sometimes I think google ha

[google-appengine] Re: Python 2.7: Instance memory limitations with concurrent requests

I would love to learn more from google on python memory handling. As Robert mentioned, we have observed that memory is not released/garbage collected on python 2.5 instances. It seems to just hold on to it. This works because the instances don't live forever and eventually get shutdown and new o

[google-appengine] Re: Task Queue Craziness

I usually don't usually catch all errors because it hides diagnostic info ... but since I can't limit the retries, i usually get the error twice ... On Feb 21, 11:20 am, Jeff Schnitzer wrote: > If you don't want a task to retry, catch any errors and simply return > normally as if the task complet

[google-appengine] Re: Task Queue Craziness

sorry ... i don't know what it means to batch writes? Are you referring to the upload tool or something else? Do batched writes cost less? Can you refer me to the documentation page on it? Thanks so much. On Feb 21, 11:50 am, stevep wrote: > You are batching those writes if it is feasible, ri

[google-appengine] Re: Need documentation of various limits/quotas regarding concurrent requests

Ouch! Really??? This is a MAJOR deal-breaker for one of my projects. But if that's the case, what good is ? Is it really only there to limit the number of requests even further? Wouldn't it be brilliantly sensible and useful to use this setting to specify the size of the thread pool? Do you know

[google-appengine] Re: Task Queue Craziness

You are batching those writes if it is feasible, right? -stevep On Feb 21, 9:56 am, James Gilliam wrote: > Yes ... I saw the 5 per sec in the admin ... > > Also, I just realized why I think gae created so many instances when i > had the queue at 1/s ... I had assumed the tasks would take much les

Re: [google-appengine] Need documentation of various limits/quotas regarding concurrent requests

I suspect one of the missing pieces of information is that multithreaded Java instances can only handle 10 threads right now (or so I have been told). Jeff On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Markus wrote: > Hi, > > first of all, let me say that I think AppEngine is one of the greatest > ideas eve

[google-appengine] Re: Need documentation of various limits/quotas regarding concurrent requests

I have been looking through the archives, but maybe with the wrong keywords. Maybe you have a couple of pointer for me which posts I should look at? On Feb 21, 8:30 pm, "Brandon Wirtz" wrote: > You aren't understanding the scheduler. There are a number of good posts in > this forum on the topic.

[google-appengine] Detecting request abortion in Java AppEngine

Hi, I have a request that takes a little while to complete (many seconds). Is there a way to detect whether the user or some network problem has already aborted the request? This would allow me to save myself the server-load of continuing the result generation, which won't go anywhere anyways. I

[google-appengine] Re: 1.6.3 Prerelease SDK Available

What about emails sent from administrators of the app? For example, when a user creates an account in my application, I send out an email from no-re...@mydomain.com to my new user. Mydomain.com is the Google Apps domain linked to my application. Will emails such as this one be signed? Would this be

[google-appengine] Re: 1.6.3 Prerelease SDK Available

H. So what if no user is signed in, but the systems sends mail on behalf of a registered owner? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from

Re: [google-appengine] 1.6.3 Prerelease SDK Available

If that's the only case where DKIM sigs happen, then please don't close the issue, because this is a weird edge case that doesn't really matter. (Sometimes I think google has some bizarre ideas about how their services are used.) The case that matters is when the server is sending an administrat

RE: [google-appengine] Need documentation of various limits/quotas regarding concurrent requests

You aren't understanding the scheduler. There are a number of good posts in this forum on the topic. Check the archives. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com

Re: [google-appengine] Re: 1.6.3 Prerelease SDK Available

As an example, Let's say your application is installed on a Google Apps domain, eg 'googlemanageddomain.com' and a user accesses your app at ' app.googlemanageddomain.com' and signs in as 'u...@googlemanageddomain.com'. When your application sends mail from 'u...@googlemanageddomain.com', it will

Re: [google-appengine] Re: 1.6.3 Prerelease SDK Available

Hi Robert, On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Robert Kluin wrote: > These are some of the best features in recent releases: > - Datastore statistics now show the amount of storage used by application >indexes. > Sorry, this was my fault. This feature was meant to be removed from the notes t

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Task Queue Craziness

If you don't want a task to retry, catch any errors and simply return normally as if the task completed. Jeff On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 2:15 PM, James Gilliam wrote: > one other task queue question ... > > i have ... > > retry_parameters: >task_retry_limit: 1 > > is there any way i can say n

[google-appengine] Re: Task Queue Craziness

one other task queue question ... i have ... retry_parameters: task_retry_limit: 1 is there any way i can say no retries? a while back, i tried task_retry_limit: 0 but didn't work thanks On Feb 21, 10:56 am, Robert Kluin wrote: > Why not leave the rate at 1/s, but set max_concurrent_re

[google-appengine] Re: Task Queue Craziness

perfect ... thanks ... On Feb 21, 10:56 am, Robert Kluin wrote: > Why not leave the rate at 1/s, but set max_concurrent_requests to 1 as > Nick suggested? > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 12:56, James Gilliam wrote: > > Yes ... I saw the 5 per sec in the admin ... > > > Also, I just reali

[google-appengine] Need documentation of various limits/quotas regarding concurrent requests

Hi, first of all, let me say that I think AppEngine is one of the greatest ideas ever. I love the concepts behind it; even some of the restrictions it comes with that allow it to be so scalable. Unfortunately, though, I keep running into random undocumented limits, that force me to rewrite my cod

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Task Queue Craziness

Why not leave the rate at 1/s, but set max_concurrent_requests to 1 as Nick suggested? On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 12:56, James Gilliam wrote: > Yes ... I saw the 5 per sec in the admin ... > > Also, I just realized why I think gae created so many instances when i > had the queue at 1/s ... I had a

[google-appengine] Google, time for a little housekeeping

The roadmap page needs updating, I think there have been a few updates of note since May 2011. Maybe you're waiting for python 2.7, full text or ssl to be released? Also if you go to https://appengine.google.com it still says "This is a *pre

Re: [google-appengine] Re: URGENT - Accidental Billing Cancelation

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Robert Kluin wrote: > So did they get this fixed for you? > Yes, we did get it sorted out. > > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 07:32, DanMux wrote: > > Hi Amy. > > > > Thanks for your reply, I filled that in as soon as I found it on > > another thread. > > >

[google-appengine] Re: Task Queue Craziness

Yes ... I saw the 5 per sec in the admin ... Also, I just realized why I think gae created so many instances when i had the queue at 1/s ... I had assumed the tasks would take much less than a second (which was true at the beginning); but as the number of entity writes continued, the latency for t

Re: [google-appengine] For information about how to identify the cause of the error to start up the backend

Could you include your app.yaml and corresponding url mapping for the warmup request? Robert On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 11:31, linkseed wrote: > Thank you for advice. > > >>   Have you tried to define a warmup handler?  You just need something >> to handle that request. > >  I tried to define, t

Re: [google-appengine] Python 2.7: Instance memory limitations with concurrent requests

> One of the biggest issues is that the Python runtime leaks memory like mad could you elaborate on this? or give some references that support your claims (provided an app code is written according to best practices, etc) On Tuesday, February 21, 2012 5:10:16 PM UTC+1, Robert Kluin wrote: > >

Re: [google-appengine] For information about how to identify the cause of the error to start up the backend

Thank you for advice. Have you tried to define a warmup handler? You just need something > to handle that request. > I tried to define, the results did not change. Was the same even if you change to an undefined further. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [google-appengine] Python 2.7: Instance memory limitations with concurrent requests

To be clear, the scheduler can still dispatch multiple requests for that url to the same instance. Only one request will execute at a time though. One of the biggest issues is that the Python runtime leaks memory like mad, so in this case you may wind up with 1) increased latency and 2) still blo

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Question about datastore batch get and appstats

Hi Robert, thanx for your answer. Francois -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/f9jc928wB70J. To post to this group, send email to goog

[google-appengine] Could we have some information about the errors showing on the status pages these last few days ?

Could it be related to the 1.6.3 SDK update ? Thanx for your help.

Re: [google-appengine] Python 2.7: Instance memory limitations with concurrent requests

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Jeff Schnitzer wrote: > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 5:33 AM, Johan Euphrosine wrote: > >> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Andrin von Rechenberg < >> and...@miumeet.com> wrote: >> >>> I guess that's the same solution as just deploying two different >>> versions. A th

Re: [google-appengine] Re: URGENT - Accidental Billing Cancelation

I think a lot of people on this list would agree: Billing is one the biggest flaws in GAE.* I dread touching those settings, and literally "check them thrice" before I submit. The only reason people don't complain more is that they don't have to touch the settings often. There must be a better

Re: [google-appengine] Python 2.7: Instance memory limitations with concurrent requests

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 5:33 AM, Johan Euphrosine wrote: > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Andrin von Rechenberg < > and...@miumeet.com> wrote: > >> I guess that's the same solution as just deploying two different >> versions. A threadsafe one and a non threadsafe one. Or did >> I misunderstand

[google-appengine] Re: More than 1800 QPS

Thanks Rober, giving a deep look into huge logs files we found that one specific entity (700 rows, no writing, a lot a reading) was causing problems. We replaced it with a static variable (synchronized and null safe in case a new server instance creation). Also Johan has gave me a couple of good

[google-appengine] Re: Why is python 2.7 in 32bit mode and not 64 bit like python 2.5?

Yeah. I have one of these (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Google%E2%80%99s_First_Production_Server.jpg) by my desk. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Why is python 2.7 in 32bit mode and not 64 bit like python 2.5?

Ok, good to know it was an informed decision and it will stay this way. Bye Bye 64bit, I liked you. Cheers, -Andrin On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:03 AM, pdknsk wrote: > > There are various technical reasons that we aren't in a position to > detail. > > So this is what the old Celeron 600 machines

Re: [google-appengine] 1.6.3 Prerelease SDK Available

Can you please fix the following issue in 1.6.3 / Java: * Internal exception during session-handling* I have enabled for performance reasons. There seems to be problem / bug in the implementation? I'm getting many ClassCastException "com.google.apphosting.runtime.jetty.DeferredSessionTasks$Defe

Re: [google-appengine] Exporting entities from GAE to local dev-server

Thanks, Robert. I changed the strategy by not going with "KeyFactory.stringToKey" instead recreating the keys during import. On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Robert Kluin wrote: > Hi, > On the local dev server keys are prefixed with dev~, if I recall > correctly. With the Python dev_appserver t

[google-appengine] Re: Why is python 2.7 in 32bit mode and not 64 bit like python 2.5?

> There are various technical reasons that we aren't in a position to detail. So this is what the old Celeron 600 machines Google used to have are used for. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send em

Re: [google-appengine] Why is python 2.7 in 32bit mode and not 64 bit like python 2.5?

Hi Andrin, On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Andrin von Rechenberg wrote: > whooops. why? There are various technical reasons that we aren't in a position to detail. Cheers, Brian > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 12:43 AM, Brian Quinlan wrote: >> >> Hi Andrin, >> >> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 10:26 PM

Re: [google-appengine] Why is python 2.7 in 32bit mode and not 64 bit like python 2.5?

whooops. why? On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 12:43 AM, Brian Quinlan wrote: > Hi Andrin, > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Andrin von Rechenberg > wrote: > > Why is Python 2.7 in 32 bit mode? > > > > hash(X) is 32 bit > > > > a=array.array("L") > > a.append(1) > > len(a.tostring()) == 4 > > > > Py