RE: [google-appengine] Re: Weird Instance Scheduler

2012-08-31 Thread Drake
> So, actually, I am baffled. Any ideas, anyone? Does your warm up load all your classes? Warm is kind of relative J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@google

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Weird Instance Scheduler

2012-08-31 Thread Takashi Matsuo
Does your warmup request initialize the persistent manager, or some libraries you may want to preload beforehand? On Sep 1, 2012 1:26 PM, "Kristopher Giesing" wrote: > OK. Something just became clearer to me. > > The requests appear to be tagged with the instance that handles the > request. Base

Re: [google-appengine] Protocol Buffers

2012-08-31 Thread Kristopher Giesing
I thought protocol buffers were designed to minimize bandwidth, not latency? I don't see how a data transmission format would minimize latency. I've never had any serious problems with JSON, personally. - Kris On Friday, August 31, 2012 8:57:14 AM UTC-7, Brandon Wirtz wrote: > > We haven’t had

Re: [google-appengine] Channel API not working in production

2012-08-31 Thread Kristopher Giesing
On Friday, August 31, 2012 12:29:20 PM UTC-7, Pascal Patry wrote: > > Hi, > > Channels on AppEngine are picky. There are multiple issues that I had to > work around for an application that is currently in production: > 1. Channels aren't working on backends > Argh, seriously? That is a huge

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Weird Instance Scheduler

2012-08-31 Thread Kristopher Giesing
OK. Something just became clearer to me. The requests appear to be tagged with the instance that handles the request. Based on that data, it looks like my request is in fact being handled by the resident instance, not the new dynamic instance. The puzzle then becomes why the request still take

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Weird Instance Scheduler

2012-08-31 Thread Kristopher Giesing
This is the request that I actually issued, being handled: 2012-07-31 23:08:28.045 /api/game/57002?pretty=true 200 7893ms 11kb Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_7_4) AppleWebKit/536.25 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/6.0 Safari/536.25 76.102.149.245 - kris [31/Jul/2012:23:08:28 -0700] "GET

[google-appengine] deferred tasks not scheduled or executed

2012-08-31 Thread Alan Xing
In a for loop, we schedule around 10 deferred tasks to a dedicated queue. Often times around 50% of the tasks are missing. The tasks are either not added to the queue or not executed. Could some body help explain why? The task parameters are very simple and small. Here is the call. deferred.defer(

[google-appengine] Re: Notice: Google App Engine Conversion API to be decommissioned in November 2012

2012-08-31 Thread Bommelmutze
Does Google new provide any similar Library or API? Actually it seems to be very hard to convert PDFs without the Conversion API to Images. Do you have any alternative way to do that? Am Dienstag, 21. August 2012 20:16:48 UTC+2 schrieb Christina Ilvento: > > In November, 2012, we will be decomm

RE: [google-appengine] Nearest match in the database

2012-08-31 Thread Drake
Store phonetics. Search by those. "Root" your word search by Root Store no vowel versions search by that From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sadaf Noor Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 2:18 PM To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com Su

[google-appengine] Nearest match in the database

2012-08-31 Thread Sadaf Noor
Hello, How can i retrieve nearest match from a database? Suppose, I have a table which has different names ["", "","",""]. When I will query for a name like "aa" it should return "". Is there any way to do that? Or any other suggestion to that? -- Regards, *Md. Sadaf Noor

Re: [google-appengine] Java PDF engines and licensing

2012-08-31 Thread Joakim
Them using document-files as templates got me thinking, it doesn't seem all that hard to automate Google Docs to make a copy of a designated document and replace some strings. At that point you can download the new Google Doc in nine different formats (e.g. PDF, JPEG and PNG) to a blob and you'r

Re: [google-appengine] Channel API not working in production

2012-08-31 Thread Pascal Patry
Hi, Channels on AppEngine are picky. There are multiple issues that I had to work around for an application that is currently in production: 1. Channels aren't working on backends 2. No API is available to mobile 3. The implementation is different from the test and production server 4. Connection/

Re: [google-appengine] Channel API not working in production

2012-08-31 Thread Miguel Alfonso Varela Fonseca
Hi All. I've recently faced the same problem. I've implemented some collaborative work on my app. I've used the Channel API in dev mode and it works really fine. After deploy, I've tried to do the same actions as in development, but the "update" in the other client is never recieved. I've added

RE: [google-appengine] Re: URLFetch Quota Is Stupid

2012-08-31 Thread Drake
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=8052 Is specific to Intra-App Limitations From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Drake Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 9:45 AM To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [go

RE: [google-appengine] Re: URLFetch Quota Is Stupid

2012-08-31 Thread Drake
Thanks for creating the feature request. We had a meet up yesterday, and So I haven't had time to do so. I might even be ok with Between App limits, but Between Front End and Backend is really stupid. I can't imagine a scenario where limiting the calls Intra-app makes sense. From: google-a

Re: [google-appengine] Re: URLFetch Quota Is Stupid

2012-08-31 Thread Jason Collins
[It seems this thread has gone sideways - again.] I would really, really love to see no urlfetch quota limitations between apps. Perhaps though you would need to enable this to prevent App Engine apps from maliciously hammering each other? If so, this technique seems fine to me: remoteapi_CUST

RE: [google-appengine] Protocol Buffers

2012-08-31 Thread Drake
We haven't had much luck with the ProtoRPC on Python 2.7 Like hello world is a pain to get up, and it is really poorly documented. From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry White Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 4:54 AM To: google-appengi

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Weird Instance Scheduler

2012-08-31 Thread Takashi Matsuo
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Kristopher Giesing wrote: > I posted a great deal of information in the thread here: > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/google-appengine/rjZhjMEAXUI > > In that thread I posted logs that showed that the very first request after > setting mi

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Weird Instance Scheduler

2012-08-31 Thread Mos
Today again hundreds of useless instance restarts and many DeadlineExceededException. (Tried many configuration issues. Nothing helps. My last try : max-idle-instance to one) Any news on http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=8004 ? As Kris wrote below the problem exists now f

Re: [google-appengine] Is it possible to build a mixed app in Java & Go?

2012-08-31 Thread Fred Janon
Thanks Barry, the version trick is a good idea. I'll try that with a small prototype. The services in Java would be used internally from the Go app, nothing from the Java app would be exposed publicly, so I would not have to proxy anything, if I understood what you meant. Cheers, Fred On Thu, A

[google-appengine] Protocol Buffers

2012-08-31 Thread Larry White
is there any support in appengine for using protocol buffers for data transfer (eg. through RPCs). If not, what recommended practices do people have for minimizing latency between AppEngine and clients, when clients are spread across the globe? -- You received this message because you are su

[google-appengine] Re: Custom expires/cache-control for get_serving_url images

2012-08-31 Thread Alex Burgel
I thought about that. I'm using the image resizing features of get_serving_url. Handling that myself would be a PITA. Thanks for the suggestions. On Friday, August 31, 2012 4:38:47 AM UTC-4, Joakim wrote: > > You could do this by serving the blobs from application code (see > blobstore api). In

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Using @ElementCollection to persist a Collection of Enum

2012-08-31 Thread Roberto Caldas
Hello Eduardo No, the documentation states that it can be used for simple types also: "Defines a collection of instances of a basic type or embeddable class" ( http://docs.oracle.com/javaee/6/api/javax/persistence/ElementCollection.html ). This 2 links points that ElementCollection should be used

Re: [google-appengine] Java PDF engines and licensing

2012-08-31 Thread Richard Watson
That looks awesome. Templates, and rational pricing. I'll definitely try it out. On Friday, August 31, 2012 2:26:22 PM UTC+2, hugues2 wrote: > > Hi, > > I am using docmosis (www.docmosis.com) which can generate .pdf and .doc > documents. It is an external dependency but their customer service h

Re: [google-appengine] Java PDF engines and licensing

2012-08-31 Thread hugues2
Hi, I am using docmosis (www.docmosis.com) which can generate .pdf and .doc documents. It is an external dependency but their customer service has been great so far. Hugues -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this di

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Internal Datastore backups

2012-08-31 Thread Barry Hunter
Remember replication is not the same as a backup. A programing or human error, either by you and your app, or by google, (or even a mistake by your users) could potentially still erase data (even if that is just overrighting with gibberish) So it can still be useful to backup. For this purpose G

[google-appengine] Re: Internal Datastore backups

2012-08-31 Thread Bartek Bargiel
Thanks. Exactly, that's what I was aware of - we can think of it as a backup of the *current* data. But I was wondering if there's any form of a backup for the data from the past. I don't actually need it but I'd like to know if it's present. > I'm not Google, but at least data in the HRD is

[google-appengine] Re: Internal Datastore backups

2012-08-31 Thread Joakim
I'm not Google, but at least data in the HRD is always written to at least three data centers, synchronously. Details on this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO015C3R6dw On Friday, August 31, 2012 12:16:30 PM UTC+2, Bartek Bargiel wrote: > > I'm curious if Google does perform any internal backup

[google-appengine] Internal Datastore backups

2012-08-31 Thread Bartek Bargiel
I'm curious if Google does perform any internal backups of the Datastore content? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/dQW0n1CkunYJ. To

Re: [google-appengine] Java PDF engines and licensing

2012-08-31 Thread Richard Watson
No worries, simpler for me to just use a java lib and reduce external dependencies. Still keen to hear what others have done. On Friday, August 31, 2012 10:40:41 AM UTC+2, Brandon Wirtz wrote: > > Sorry, it’s late and I’m a little loopy… > > > > I would set it up on the weekend and just say “h

RE: [google-appengine] Java PDF engines and licensing

2012-08-31 Thread Drake
Sorry, it's late and I'm a little loopy. I would set it up on the weekend and just say "here pay as you go, tell your friends" if I thought it was going to make $1,000 over the next year. I can't quite justify it at $300. Hopefully the link I provided will inspire some young kid on the li

[google-appengine] Re: Custom expires/cache-control for get_serving_url images

2012-08-31 Thread Joakim
You could do this by serving the blobs from application code (see blobstore api). In fact, this could be even better as there would be fewer domain names to look up. On Friday, August 31, 2012 12:21:25 AM UTC+2, Alex Burgel wrote: > > I've noticed that image urls generated by get_serving_url are

Re: [google-appengine] Java PDF engines and licensing

2012-08-31 Thread Richard Watson
The suggestion isn't aimed at someone with a $2m hole in their pocket, it's aimed at a person who has skills but is looking for a business idea. $300 is an upfront payment, but a SaaS setup could charge for volume and high-volume customers would pay much more than $300. I wouldn't mind being t

RE: [google-appengine] Java PDF engines and licensing

2012-08-31 Thread Drake
How many are you going to run? How much do you want to pay? $300 once indicates I can't make enough off of you to make it worth while. Do you have 1000 friends? From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Watson Sent: Friday, Au

RE: [google-appengine] Re: URLFetch Quota Is Stupid

2012-08-31 Thread Drake
> I wish I could pay e.g. $100 for a support query, though. $6000 per year insurance just seems a bit high, unless you're already pretty profitable. $6k is worth it if you got Architecture support. But it is really more billing support. The biggest reason to pay the $500 is to be able to u

Re: [google-appengine] Java PDF engines and licensing

2012-08-31 Thread Richard Watson
I've toyed with a couple ideas, but I'd rather pay $300 once-off and reuse much of the code I already have. Someone should build an invoicing app on GAE, expose via an api, get a callback with your newly generated PDF, pay X money per PDF or month. On Friday, August 31, 2012 10:17:58 AM UTC+2,

RE: [google-appengine] Java PDF engines and licensing

2012-08-31 Thread Drake
Have you considered building an API to a Python PDF generator? http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pisa/3.0.27 should work on AppEngine. You can even have a version in your App that is python if you want to share quota. From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups

Re: [google-appengine] Re: URLFetch Quota Is Stupid

2012-08-31 Thread Richard Watson
I think that a couple of the newer Google people on this list have helped greatly, though. Takashi does make an effort to respond and to send issues to the dev team, whereas at one point it was almost like they were intentionally ignoring us. So yeah, support does leave me feeling a little wary

Re: [google-appengine] Java PDF engines and licensing

2012-08-31 Thread Richard Watson
I mailed iText about pricing and got the general price list. It's "are you out of your fricken mind with these prices", basically. I'll default to PDFjet unless I hear from others about alternatives. On Friday, August 31, 2012 9:30:59 AM UTC+2, Brandon Wirtz wrote: > > If only there was an API

RE: [google-appengine] Re: URLFetch Quota Is Stupid

2012-08-31 Thread Drake
> Well, so, I'd appreciate it if you could stop calling someone stupid. We'll respond to you not because you say stupid, but just because you're in trouble :) But it doesn't work. Check this list for when I posted about this the first time, on 8/24 which was after I had made the Request via

RE: [google-appengine] My account cannot be linked to my company's google apps

2012-08-31 Thread Drake
Open the link in a new incognito window. Unified login is kicking your butt. It sucks. > -Original Message- > From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google- > appeng...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matt Doran > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 10:24 PM > To: google-appengine@google

Re: [google-appengine] Re: URLFetch Quota Is Stupid

2012-08-31 Thread Takashi Matsuo
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Drake wrote: > Sure. But I have filed a billing support request via the Quota increase > form every other day for 10 days, and gotten no response. > Sorry it didn't work for you. I'm going to improve this process. > > > ** ** > > I really like the platfor

RE: [google-appengine] Java PDF engines and licensing

2012-08-31 Thread Drake
If only there was an API for that in AppEngine. Something for Conversion of PDF. What would they call that? Makes you think maybe they didn't price the tool correctly. From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Watson Sent: Friday

RE: [google-appengine] Re: URLFetch Quota Is Stupid

2012-08-31 Thread Drake
Sure. But I have filed a billing support request via the Quota increase form every other day for 10 days, and gotten no response. I really like the platform, but it often feels the only way to get support is to call people stupid in the public forum and hope that someone is looking who cares.

[google-appengine] Java PDF engines and licensing

2012-08-31 Thread Richard Watson
I'm looking at how to generate PDF's. I see PDFjet and iText can now both run on GAE. PDFjet's license is $295 per user, iText is a woolly it's-a-secret cash extraction setup. I'd rather lean towards the former rather than pay someone who won't put their prices on their site. http://pdfjet.com