[google-appengine] Re: Prerelease SDK 1.5.5 available for download!

2011-10-03 Thread Sergey Schetinin
- We have released an experimental utility, available in the Admin Console, to assist in migrating your application to the High Replication datastore. This utility allows you to copy the bulk of your data in the background, while the source application is still serving. You then need

Re: [google-appengine] Re: How deployments influence instance hours?

2011-09-16 Thread Sergey Schetinin
Bump #3 =) On 12 September 2011 00:38, Sergey Schetinin mal...@gmail.com wrote: Bump #2 On 7 September 2011 13:53, Sergey Schetinin mal...@gmail.com wrote: Bump On Sunday, 4 September 2011 14:20:31 UTC+3, Sergey Schetinin wrote: So when we deploy a new version, let's assume there was one

Re: [google-appengine] Re: How deployments influence instance hours?

2011-09-11 Thread Sergey Schetinin
Bump #2 On 7 September 2011 13:53, Sergey Schetinin mal...@gmail.com wrote: Bump On Sunday, 4 September 2011 14:20:31 UTC+3, Sergey Schetinin wrote: So when we deploy a new version, let's assume there was one instance running, it gets shut down, a new one is then started, how many instance

[google-appengine] Re: How deployments influence instance hours?

2011-09-07 Thread Sergey Schetinin
Bump On Sunday, 4 September 2011 14:20:31 UTC+3, Sergey Schetinin wrote: So when we deploy a new version, let's assume there was one instance running, it gets shut down, a new one is then started, how many instance-hours are consumed that hour? Another option, the version deployed has

Re: [google-appengine] A suggestion: open-source the scheduler

2011-09-05 Thread Sergey Schetinin
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=5784 On 5 September 2011 15:04, Johan Euphrosine pro...@google.com wrote: You should fill a feature request here: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/entry?template=Feature%20request On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Sergey

[google-appengine] Free apps + scheduler

2011-09-05 Thread Sergey Schetinin
I thought that this will obviously be possible, but given the recent events I don't want to assume anything. Here's a very specific question about the scheduler: is there a way to make sure a free app does not go above free instance-hours quota? The datastore and other free quotas are a non-issue

[google-appengine] Re: Free apps + scheduler

2011-09-05 Thread Sergey Schetinin
to tinker with scheduler settings, report scheduler bugs etcetc On 5 September 2011 17:33, Sergey Schetinin mal...@gmail.com wrote: I thought that this will obviously be possible, but given the recent events I don't want to assume anything. Here's a very specific question about the scheduler

[google-appengine] CPU limits per request

2011-09-05 Thread Sergey Schetinin
After new pricing kicks in, will there still be limits on cpu usage per request? I suspect the answer is yes, so I would also like to know why other than that just how we wrote the thing. Thanks. -- http://self.maluke.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[google-appengine] CPU limits per request

2011-09-05 Thread Sergey Schetinin
(Second attempt to send this, because apparently the first one was marked as spam. Sorry if this is duplicate, I waited 18hours before sending this again.) After new pricing kicks in, will there still be limits on cpu usage per request? I suspect the answer is yes, so I would also like to know

Re: [google-appengine] The Amazing Story Of Appengine And The Two Orders Of Magnitude

2011-09-05 Thread Sergey Schetinin
interested. And I suspect that Brandon would find ways to use it that just blew us away. On Sep 4, 2011, at 7:47 AM, Sergey Schetinin wrote: Well,.. I intentionally tried to make a suggestion that requires as little deviation from the existing plan as possible. I have no faith in GAE team making

[google-appengine] A suggestion: open-source the scheduler

2011-09-04 Thread Sergey Schetinin
Seeing how scheduler has some problems and everyone's bill depends on how well it does its job, I think it would be fair and would do a great deal to make new costs more transparent if you open-sourced the scheduler. Ideally, one would be able to override scheduler logic for their application, but

[google-appengine] Re: Concurrency and instance startup logic

2011-09-04 Thread Sergey Schetinin
I have an app that has instances page looking like this: http://i.imgur.com/YROrD.png It's a very small app with billing disabled. It will not work within free quota after the pricing change simply because the scheduler is no good. I think one way to fix this would be to open-source the

[google-appengine] Re: The Amazing Story Of Appengine And The Two Orders Of Magnitude

2011-09-04 Thread Sergey Schetinin
I made a very similar request back in June -- there was zero reaction from Google. My suggestion is a little different -- provide a separate slider for maximum latency for task queue requests. -Sergey -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App

[google-appengine] How deployments influence instance hours?

2011-09-04 Thread Sergey Schetinin
So when we deploy a new version, let's assume there was one instance running, it gets shut down, a new one is then started, how many instance-hours are consumed that hour? Another option, the version deployed has a different name. The default version is switched to that new version and the

Re: [google-appengine] The Amazing Story Of Appengine And The Two Orders Of Magnitude

2011-09-04 Thread Sergey Schetinin
Well,.. I intentionally tried to make a suggestion that requires as little deviation from the existing plan as possible. I have no faith in GAE team making anything but baby steps towards the community -- that request in the linked ticket is way too ambitious. -Sergey -- You received this

[google-appengine] Re: Small enty level VPS and cloud based services v appengine

2011-09-04 Thread Sergey Schetinin
Also: http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produkte_vserver/vq7 That's 9.20 USD for those of us who don't need to pay VAT. http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produkte_vserver/vq12 - this one is 15 USD w/o VAT. http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produkte_vserver/vq19 - 23 USD -Sergey -- You received

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Small enty level VPS and cloud based services v appengine

2011-09-04 Thread Sergey Schetinin
Amazingly enough AWS still prices their bandwidth from EU datacenter at $0.120 per GB On 4 September 2011 17:33, Philip philip.mates...@driggle.com wrote: Joshua is correct with some tuning you can improve your instance count quite well. I have set Max Idle Instances to 2 and kept Min Pending

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Small enty level VPS and cloud based services v appengine

2011-09-04 Thread Sergey Schetinin
public internet. So they would be paying US 'entry/exit' rates, but only charging EU rates. On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Sergey Schetinin mal...@gmail.com wrote: Amazingly enough AWS still prices their bandwidth from EU datacenter at $0.120 per GB On 4 September 2011 17:33, Philip

[google-appengine] Re: Google Bot Is Your Enemy

2011-09-04 Thread Sergey Schetinin
I might not be entirely internal network traffic, but at least the communication between the appengine apps should be discounted. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit

[google-appengine] Re: CPU limits per request

2011-09-04 Thread Sergey Schetinin
etc. Thanks. On 5 September 2011 07:36, Sergey Schetinin ser...@maluke.com wrote: (Second attempt to send this, because apparently the first one was marked as spam. Sorry if this is duplicate, I waited 18hours before sending this again.) After new pricing kicks in, will there still be limits

Re: [google-appengine] Re: CPU limits per request

2011-09-04 Thread Sergey Schetinin
I see, thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/RMNN3p48VLMJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com.

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Keep it short: Who is forced to leave GAE?

2011-09-01 Thread Sergey Schetinin
While I agree that some people do compare apples to oranges here, I cannot accept your claim that such changes in pricing were to be expected. There's no precedent for a change in pricing model like that, and consider this: Gmail was in beta for a very long time and no doubt is a losing article

[google-appengine] New pricing -- too soon.

2011-08-31 Thread Sergey Schetinin
Google announced that the new pricing goes into effect by the mid-September. At the same time the Python 2.7 runtime is not ready, and we still don't know what concurrency levels will be allowed (neither does the development team). There's still no word about guaranteed CPU resources per

Re: [google-appengine] A bug in custom domain / HR datastore app management.

2011-08-22 Thread Sergey Schetinin
at 8:42 AM, Sergey Schetinin ser...@maluke.com wrote: The issue I talked about with Greg was bounced to the Apps team anyway, as it's not appengine's fault. Trying to file production issue resulted in 400. That’s an error. Your client has issued a malformed or illegal request. That’s all we know

Re: [google-appengine] A bug in custom domain / HR datastore app management.

2011-08-18 Thread Sergey Schetinin
exact steps to reproduce. On 1 July 2011 08:39, Sergey Schetinin mal...@gmail.com wrote: The problem is still there. Can I please get a reply from a Google employee? On 29 June 2011 09:30, Sergey Schetinin mal...@gmail.com wrote: TLDR: There's a bug in Google Apps / App Engine that make

Re: [google-appengine] A bug in custom domain / HR datastore app management.

2011-08-18 Thread Sergey Schetinin
2011 17:35, Robert Kluin robert.kl...@gmail.com wrote: File a production issue. On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 03:03, Sergey Schetinin mal...@gmail.com wrote: While I was contacted by Greg off-list (thanks), the issue is still there, after almost two months. It exhibits itself slightly

[google-appengine] Re: Multiple Instances of the Same App

2011-07-11 Thread Sergey Schetinin
Mapping domains to different subpaths / handlers is easy. For ex see: http://self.maluke.com/hostmap Full disclosure: that's a link to my own blog ) -Sergey -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the

Re: [google-appengine] Re: MS-HR Migration Post-Mortem

2011-07-11 Thread Sergey Schetinin
On Saturday, June 25, 2011 6:06:16 AM UTC+3, Ikai L (Google) wrote: Robert - the limit should be: - 10 active asynchronous RPCs. Technically, since the synchronous API just makes an async call and blocks, I suppose this translates to 10 concurrent RPCs per request. What happens, if the

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Updated App Engine Pricing FAQ!

2011-07-01 Thread Sergey Schetinin
On 29 June 2011 07:57, Ronoaldo Pereira ronoa...@gmail.com wrote: Also, on a spike in traffic today I got 70 instances up and running for around 30 minutes (Java app without threading yet...). This gives around 70 instances * (30+15 minutes) = 3150 instance hours = $252. That's 3150

Re: [google-appengine] A bug in custom domain / HR datastore app management.

2011-06-30 Thread Sergey Schetinin
The problem is still there. Can I please get a reply from a Google employee? On 29 June 2011 09:30, Sergey Schetinin mal...@gmail.com wrote: TLDR: There's a bug in Google Apps / App Engine that make it impossible for me to manage an existing domain alias. I have an application that uses HR

[google-appengine] A bug in custom domain / HR datastore app management.

2011-06-29 Thread Sergey Schetinin
TLDR: There's a bug in Google Apps / App Engine that make it impossible for me to manage an existing domain alias. I have an application that uses HR datastore, the app has an alias on a custom domain. The problem is, I can't manage it. When I log into Google Apps dashboard and navigate to

[google-appengine] Re: Updated App Engine Pricing FAQ!

2011-06-29 Thread Sergey Schetinin
Greg, thank you for your answers. It would be great if you could clarify a few more things. 1) How do you define instance available to serve a request in concurrent environment? I suppose this means an instance that is currently serving less than X requests. What is that X? Will it be just a

Re: [google-appengine] Re: FAQ for out of preview pricing changes

2011-06-02 Thread Sergey Schetinin
enough to discuss. So two weeks have passed, can we get an update finally? -Sergey On 18 May 2011 23:06, Sergey Schetinin ser...@maluke.com wrote: A couple more questions for the FAQ: 1) What are the expected limits on the concurrency for Python 2.7 instances? Assuming the requests handlers

Re: [google-appengine] Re: FAQ for out of preview pricing changes

2011-06-02 Thread Sergey Schetinin
On 2 June 2011 16:01, Vinuth Madinur vinuth.madi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Sergey Schetinin ser...@maluke.com wrote: Greg D wrote a while ago: I know I haven't been responding in this thread a lot but I've been reading what everyone is saying and working

Re: [google-appengine] Re: FAQ for out of preview pricing changes

2011-05-18 Thread Sergey Schetinin
A couple more questions for the FAQ: 1) What are the expected limits on the concurrency for Python 2.7 instances? Assuming the requests handlers / threads are just waiting for RPC to finish (say on urlfetch service), how many per-process are allowed? This is probably still TBD, but a ballpark

Re: [google-appengine] Re: FAQ for out of preview pricing changes

2011-05-18 Thread Sergey Schetinin
opened Pandora's box with questions popping up from it in a much faster rate that can be answered. Nick On May 18, 11:06 pm, Sergey Schetinin ser...@maluke.com wrote: A couple more questions for the FAQ: 1) What are the expected limits on the concurrency for Python 2.7 instances? Assuming

[google-appengine] Do HR-enabled apps get more than one memcached instance?

2011-05-14 Thread Sergey Schetinin
So, I was watching the presentation on the HR datastore from the IO 2011 ( http://www.google.com/events/io/2011/sessions/more-9s-please-under-the-covers-of-the-high-replication-datastore.html ) and one thing caught my attention: the slides were showing the frontend instances running in more than

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Do HR-enabled apps get more than one memcached instance?

2011-05-14 Thread Sergey Schetinin
-applications have more than one syncronised memcache - by me test save in HR-memcache in 3 times slower, than Master/Slave application. On May 14, 6:56 pm, Sergey Schetinin ser...@maluke.com wrote: So, I was watching the presentation on the HR datastore from the IO 2011 (http://www.google.com

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Do HR-enabled apps get more than one memcached instance?

2011-05-14 Thread Sergey Schetinin
(empty) On May 14, 3:26 pm, Sergey Schetinin ser...@maluke.com wrote: I'm pretty sure the memcached clusters (if there are more than one) are not synchronized. First of all, that would be way too slow. Second, the talk I referenced specifically mentions that when the apps are being migrated from

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Is App Engine suddenly becoming more expensive???

2011-05-11 Thread Sergey Schetinin
On Wednesday, May 11, 2011 8:16:32 PM UTC+3, Greg D wrote: Instance hours are billed for the instances being up for an app. This is one of the reasons that we are changing our scheduler, to ensure we aren't creating instances that aren't needed and that we are taking down instances once

[google-appengine] Re: HELP! 500 Error on login to admin interface and appcfg.py upload.

2011-04-09 Thread Sergey Schetinin
Deployment problems are not monitored and the system status page reports no issues. This is something GAE team failed to addressed for long time now, star this issue to let them know you think this is important: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=3906 -Sergey -- You

[google-appengine] Urlfetch deadlines

2010-07-12 Thread Sergey Schetinin
this. -- Best Regards, Sergey Schetinin http://self.maluke.com/ -- My articles and open-source stuff http://www.maluke.com/ -- My commercial software and custom development services -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post

[google-appengine] Re: Urlfetch deadlines

2010-07-12 Thread Sergey Schetinin
On Jul 13, 2:42 am, Sergey Schetinin mal...@gmail.com wrote: In the logs for the service being queried I can see the request that timed out. It has caused a new server instance to be started, but it took just a second 07-12 10:51AM 51.943 /ws/beta 200 1093ms 388cpu_ms 0kb AppEngine-Google

[google-appengine] Re: 500 Error When Trying to appcfg.py update

2009-11-03 Thread Sergey Schetinin
I'm currently getting these errors as well. It would be nice to have a separate row for deployments status on http://code.google.com/status/appengine On Nov 4, 3:22 am, Kortina kort...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm getting the following error when I try to update my app: Server:

[google-appengine] Re: Program Policies question (definition of reselling) [Google employee reply wanted]

2009-06-02 Thread Sergey Schetinin
Any suggestions for a better way to get a response to this than posting it here? Thanks. On May 26, 10:35 pm, Sergey Schetinin mal...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.google.com/privacypolicy.html Under Prohibited Actions there's this item: k. Sell, trade, resell or otherwise exploit the Service

[google-appengine] Re: Program Policies question (definition of reselling) [Google employee reply wanted]

2009-06-02 Thread Sergey Schetinin
, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Sergey Schetinin mal...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.google.com/privacypolicy.html Under Prohibited Actions there's this item: k. Sell, trade, resell or otherwise exploit the Service for any unauthorized commercial purpose; That can be interpreted as charging for any