Re: [google-appengine] Diving into App Engine is soooooooooooo hard now - My analysis

2020-04-19 Thread Kaan Soral
As far as I assumed, and I'm too optimistic these days, they'll work indefinitely? https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/standard/long-term-support I'm probably never going to move my old apps to 3.7, they'll die when 2.7 dies - they use pretty much every available original in-house app

Re: [google-appengine] Diving into App Engine is soooooooooooo hard now - My analysis

2020-04-19 Thread Joshua Smith
> On Apr 19, 2020, at 1:01 AM, MdeA wrote: > > Now I'm just wondering what will happen to all my web apps running on GAE > after July, 2020. Short answer: They will continue to work as they have been. We need to migrate from Py2.7 to Py3.7 and the new stack, but google is giving us years

Re: [google-appengine] Diving into App Engine is soooooooooooo hard now - My analysis

2020-03-26 Thread 'barrado' via Google App Engine
Hi! You can find the official statements regarding Python2 in this documentation pages [1][2]. [1]: https://cloud.google.com/python/docs/python2-sunset [2]: https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/standard/long-term-support On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 3:02:55 PM UTC+1, bFlood wrote: > > Is

Re: [google-appengine] Diving into App Engine is soooooooooooo hard now - My analysis

2020-03-24 Thread bFlood
Is there an official AppEngine Standard Python 2.7 depreciation date? the SDK (appcfg) is gone in July2020 but has anything been announced with regard to the runtime/hosting environment yet? thanks. On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 11:54:50 AM UTC-4, Olu wrote: > > Thank you for your feedback,

Re: [google-appengine] Diving into App Engine is soooooooooooo hard now - My analysis

2020-03-23 Thread 'Olu' via Google App Engine
Thank you for your feedback, Alexey and I understand your concerns. I however encourage you to use the issue tracker links for creation of features[1] that you consider would be nice to have on GCP. The team are committed to reviewing such requests and considering how these requests fit into

Re: [google-appengine] Diving into App Engine is soooooooooooo hard now - My analysis

2020-03-22 Thread 'Alexey' via Google App Engine
I feel like Google has made some improvements and some of the deprecations are understandable. My biggest issue is the way Google has gone about doing this. GAE started out as a platform coded to a number of languages' interfaces, some standard and some proprietary. For example, it used to

Re: [google-appengine] Diving into App Engine is soooooooooooo hard now - My analysis

2020-03-22 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
As another longtime user, I have mixed feelings. Some things are better, some things are worse. I certainly wouldn't give up the current GAE to go back to the old one, but mostly because I still have enough of the old one available. I straddle the old world and the new world, using the "old"

Re: [google-appengine] Diving into App Engine is soooooooooooo hard now - My analysis

2020-03-21 Thread Rajesh Gupta
Please Google don't deprecate anything. Dont' introduce new parallel way of doing things with new stuff and put the developers in confusion on the dev roadmap. Get back mapreduce. If I write a simple SAAS that is serving few customers and growing, why do I need new and big and scary DataFlow

Re: [google-appengine] Diving into App Engine is soooooooooooo hard now - My analysis

2020-03-20 Thread Luca de Alfaro
I will sorely miss Appengine, as it was a uniquely simple way to get reliability and scalability. And it was unique to Google. Other things, like containers, vms, and databases, AWS also has them. So I think the strategy is foolish. If Appengine is de-emphasized, I won't be confident putting

Re: [google-appengine] Diving into App Engine is soooooooooooo hard now - My analysis

2020-03-20 Thread Joshua Smith
It’s interesting to look at what Google is doing with Firebase. 1. They are encouraging us to move more of the processing into the client, which while often architecturally foolish, does eliminate the need for some of the PaaS stuff. 2. They have a serverless/cloud functions thing over there,

Re: [google-appengine] Diving into App Engine is soooooooooooo hard now - My analysis

2020-03-16 Thread Joshua Smith
Anyone tried Beanstalk? Is it any better? I’ve recently had a run-in with Azure where I had to store some stuff for a customer in their S3-like blob store service. It was a nightmare. Insanely over-engineeered to the point that it becomes impossible to figure out how to do the simplest things.

[google-appengine] Diving into App Engine is soooooooooooo hard now - My analysis

2020-03-14 Thread Kaan Soral
I'll whine a lot, but there's a concentrated and crisp TL;DR in the end I've been using App Engine I guess for 10 years now? It's hard for me too, but also, I'm preparing to open source my current project, at each step I question everything, I was going to open source my game so young