[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-31 Thread Andrew Bowers
Thanks for pointing us to that Cameron. Cheers, Andrew On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 3:31 AM, Cameron Braid came...@braid.com.au wrote: JBoss use a naming scheme that sorts alphabetically, maybe it is worth considering http://www.jboss.org/jbossas/downloads/ Applied to the names in the original

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-31 Thread John Tamplin
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Cameron Braid came...@braid.com.au wrote: JBoss use a naming scheme that sorts alphabetically, maybe it is worth considering http://www.jboss.org/jbossas/downloads/ Applied to the names in the original email 1) gwt-2.0.0-m1.zip 2) gwt-2.0.0-m2.zip 3)

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-30 Thread nicolas de loof
Just for info, JBoss guys use to suffix releases with GA (General Availability)hibernate-3.4.0.GA for example 2009/8/28 Andrew Bowers abow...@google.com The current problem we are trying to solve is that it is hard to know which build is a major release for those who aren't intimate. For 1.6,

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-29 Thread Cameron Braid
JBoss use a naming scheme that sorts alphabetically, maybe it is worth considering http://www.jboss.org/jbossas/downloads/ Applied to the names in the original email 1) gwt-2.0.0-m1.zip 2) gwt-2.0.0-m2.zip 3) gwt-2.0.0-rc1.zip 4) gwt-2.0.0.zip They could be : 1) gwt-2.0.0-Beta1.zip (or could

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-13 Thread Scott Blum
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Bruce Johnson br...@google.com wrote: Senator Blum, Do you mean disturbing as in 1) revolting, 2) distressing, or 3) disordering? Distressing, I think. -- Example #1 -- Please sort the following two lists chronlogically as quickly as you can: List 1:

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-13 Thread John Tamplin
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Scott Blum sco...@google.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Bruce Johnson br...@google.com wrote: Senator Blum, Do you mean disturbing as in 1) revolting, 2) distressing, or 3) disordering? Distressing, I think. -- Example #1 -- Please sort

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-13 Thread Kelly Norton
fwiw, I've never found myself sorting GWT distros but I do find myself wanting to uniquely identify them all the time. Why do you think people will be so eager to ignore part of the label? I would actually be surprised if any form of naming fixes the few incidences of the conversation you mention.

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-13 Thread Isaac Truett
-- Example #1 -- Please sort the following two lists chronlogically as quickly as you can: List 1: 1.6.2, 1.6.5, 1.6.0, 1.6.1 List 2: 2.0.0-rc2, 2.0.0-ms2, 2.0.0, 2.0.0-rc1 This should be trivial for anyone familiar with the concepts of milestone and release candidate builds. Anyone not

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-13 Thread Scott Blum
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Kelly Norton knor...@google.com wrote: fwiw, I've never found myself sorting GWT distros but I do find myself wanting to uniquely identify them all the time. Why do you think people will be so eager to ignore part of the label? I would actually be surprised if

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-12 Thread Joel Webber
Makes sense to me. So the first one will be gwt-2.0.0-m0, right? On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Bruce Johnson br...@google.com wrote: Mostly, this writeup is aimed at people who have been working on GWT's own build-related stuff, but if anyone else has objections, now would be a good time

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-12 Thread Bruce Johnson
Exactly :-) On Wednesday, August 12, 2009, Joel Webber j...@google.com wrote: Makes sense to me. So the first one will be gwt-2.0.0-m0, right? On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Bruce Johnson br...@google.com wrote: Mostly, this writeup is aimed at people who have been working on GWT's own

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-12 Thread Bruce Johnson
Duh, Kelly. Everybody knows that you always start counting at 1 when there's a number immediately following a space or a non-digit and you start counting at 0 when there's a number that immediately follows a period. It's such a logical and obvious system that I thought the rules would be

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-12 Thread Isaac Truett
This reminds me of a thread I saw recently on whether the value 1 in a foo_percentage database column meant 100% or 0.01%. And on topic, +1 for the new version names. Has anyone talked to the maven crowd about this? They seem to usually have an opinion on naming schemes. On Wed, Aug 12, 2009

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-12 Thread Scott Blum
I find the fact that 2.0.0 is now ambiguous to be disturbing, admiral. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Bruce Johnson br...@google.com wrote: Mostly, this writeup is aimed at people who have been working on GWT's own build-related stuff, but if anyone else has objections, now would be a good

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-12 Thread Bruce Johnson
Senator Blum, Do you mean disturbing as in 1) revolting, 2) distressing, or 3) disordering? It seems that mathematics has successfully survived similar notational issues, such as the whole X vs. X' thing. Willing to give it a chance? On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Scott Blum

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-12 Thread John Tamplin
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Bruce Johnson br...@google.com wrote: Senator Blum, Do you mean disturbing as in 1) revolting, 2) distressing, or 3) disordering? It seems that mathematics has successfully survived similar notational issues, such as the whole X vs. X' thing. I dislike

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-12 Thread Bruce Johnson
The version update notification thing is admittedly a problem, and so it's true we maybe would need to tweak that. Not changing code most certaily wasn't the justification for the naming scheme I proposed (slap me the day I let that be a reason to justify a lame approach). Alternate proposals,

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-12 Thread Ray Cromwell
I'm by no means a maven expert, but I use it for my builds. Maven uses the following version format: major.minor.incremental-qualifier qualifier can be anything like rc1 or mac, for example, the way the gwt-dev-*.jars are placed in the repo is: dependency groupIdcom.google.gwt/groupid

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-12 Thread John Tamplin
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Bruce Johnson br...@google.com wrote: The version update notification thing is admittedly a problem, and so it's true we maybe would need to tweak that. Not changing code most certaily wasn't the justification for the naming scheme I proposed (slap me the day I