[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-09-12 Thread Fred Sauer
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:57 AM, John Tamplin wrote: > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Cameron Braid wrote: > >> JBoss use a naming scheme that sorts alphabetically, maybe it is worth >> considering >> >> http://www.jboss.org/jbossas/downloads/ >> >> Applied to the names in the original email >

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-31 Thread John Tamplin
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Cameron Braid wrote: > JBoss use a naming scheme that sorts alphabetically, maybe it is worth > considering > > http://www.jboss.org/jbossas/downloads/ > > Applied to the names in the original email > > 1) gwt-2.0.0-m1.zip > 2) gwt-2.0.0-m2.zip > 3) gwt-2.0.0-rc1.

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-31 Thread Andrew Bowers
Thanks for pointing us to that Cameron. Cheers, Andrew On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 3:31 AM, Cameron Braid wrote: > JBoss use a naming scheme that sorts alphabetically, maybe it is worth > considering > > http://www.jboss.org/jbossas/downloads/ > > Applied to the names in the original email > > 1) gw

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-30 Thread nicolas de loof
Just for info, JBoss guys use to suffix releases with "GA" (General Availability)"hibernate-3.4.0.GA" for example 2009/8/28 Andrew Bowers > The current problem we are trying to solve is that it is hard to know which > build is a major release for those who aren't intimate. > For 1.6, the golden

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-29 Thread Cameron Braid
JBoss use a naming scheme that sorts alphabetically, maybe it is worth considering http://www.jboss.org/jbossas/downloads/ Applied to the names in the original email 1) gwt-2.0.0-m1.zip 2) gwt-2.0.0-m2.zip 3) gwt-2.0.0-rc1.zip 4) gwt-2.0.0.zip They could be : 1) gwt-2.0.0-Beta1.zip (or could j

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-28 Thread Andrew Bowers
The current problem we are trying to solve is that it is hard to know which build is a major release for those who aren't intimate. For 1.6, the golden release was 1.6.4, which is thoroughly confusing to a general user who doesn't follow the development cycle. If you only care about the final relea

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-13 Thread Scott Blum
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Kelly Norton wrote: > fwiw, I've never found myself sorting GWT distros but I do find myself > wanting to uniquely identify them all the time. Why do you think people will > be so eager to ignore part of the label? I would actually be surprised if > any form of na

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-13 Thread Isaac Truett
> -- Example #1 -- > Please sort the following two lists chronlogically as quickly as you can: > List 1: "1.6.2", "1.6.5", "1.6.0", "1.6.1" > List 2: "2.0.0-rc2", "2.0.0-ms2", "2.0.0", "2.0.0-rc1" This should be trivial for anyone familiar with the concepts of milestone and release candidate buil

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-13 Thread Kelly Norton
fwiw, I've never found myself sorting GWT distros but I do find myself wanting to uniquely identify them all the time. Why do you think people will be so eager to ignore part of the label? I would actually be surprised if any form of naming fixes the few incidences of the conversation you mention.

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-13 Thread John Tamplin
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Scott Blum wrote: > On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > >> Senator Blum, >> >> Do you mean "disturbing" as in >> 1) revolting, >> 2) distressing, or >> 3) disordering? >> > > Distressing, I think. > > -- Example #1 -- > > Please sort the follo

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-13 Thread Scott Blum
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > Senator Blum, > > Do you mean "disturbing" as in > 1) revolting, > 2) distressing, or > 3) disordering? > Distressing, I think. -- Example #1 -- Please sort the following two lists chronlogically as quickly as you can: List 1: "1.6.2", "

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-12 Thread John Tamplin
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > The version update notification thing is admittedly a problem, and so it's > true we maybe would need to tweak that. Not changing code most certaily > wasn't the justification for the naming scheme I proposed (slap me the day I > let that be

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-12 Thread Ray Cromwell
I'm by no means a maven expert, but I use it for my builds. Maven uses the following version format: ..- qualifier can be anything like "rc1" or "mac", for example, the way the gwt-dev-*.jars are placed in the repo is: com.google.gwt gwt-dev 1.7.0 mac maven would then expect a gwt-dev-1.7.0-ma

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-12 Thread Bruce Johnson
The version update notification thing is admittedly a problem, and so it's true we maybe would need to tweak that. Not changing code most certaily wasn't the justification for the naming scheme I proposed (slap me the day I let that be a reason to justify a lame approach). Alternate proposals, nay

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-12 Thread John Tamplin
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > Senator Blum, > > Do you mean "disturbing" as in > 1) revolting, > 2) distressing, or > 3) disordering? > > It seems that mathematics has successfully survived similar notational > issues, such as the whole X vs. X' thing. > I dislike the f

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-12 Thread Bruce Johnson
Senator Blum, Do you mean "disturbing" as in 1) revolting, 2) distressing, or 3) disordering? It seems that mathematics has successfully survived similar notational issues, such as the whole X vs. X' thing. Willing to give it a chance? On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Scott Blum wrote: > I fi

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-12 Thread Scott Blum
I find the fact that "2.0.0" is now ambiguous to be disturbing, admiral. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > Mostly, this writeup is aimed at people who have been working on GWT's own > build-related stuff, but if anyone else has objections, now would be a good > time to rai

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-12 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Isaac Truett wrote: > And on topic, +1 for the new version names. Has anyone talked to the > maven crowd about this? They seem to usually have an opinion on naming > schemes. No, but I hope someone knowledgeable will comment. The scheme I'm proposing is intentio

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-12 Thread Isaac Truett
This reminds me of a thread I saw recently on whether the value 1 in a foo_percentage database column meant 100% or 0.01%. And on topic, +1 for the new version names. Has anyone talked to the maven crowd about this? They seem to usually have an opinion on naming schemes. On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-12 Thread Bruce Johnson
Duh, Kelly. Everybody knows that you always start counting at 1 when there's a number immediately following a space or a non-digit and you start counting at 0 when there's a number that immediately follows a period. It's such a logical and obvious system that I thought the rules would be self-evide

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-12 Thread Joel Webber
Just add this at the top of all documents to get what you're looking for: OPTION BASE 1 On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Kelly Norton wrote: > No, no, Joel, we will start counting at 1 not 0. The first release will be > gwt-2.1.1-m1. > I think the naming scheme is good (even if sometimes starts

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-12 Thread Kelly Norton
No, no, Joel, we will start counting at 1 not 0. The first release will be gwt-2.1.1-m1. I think the naming scheme is good (even if sometimes starts with 0, other times with 1). /kel On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Joel Webber wrote: > Makes sense to me. So the first one will be gwt-2.0.0-m0,

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-12 Thread Bruce Johnson
Exactly :-) On Wednesday, August 12, 2009, Joel Webber wrote: > Makes sense to me. So the first one will be gwt-2.0.0-m0, right? > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > Mostly, this writeup is aimed at people who have been working on GWT's own > build-related stuff, but if

[gwt-contrib] Re: Prettier GWT version names for upcoming 2.0 releases

2009-08-12 Thread Joel Webber
Makes sense to me. So the first one will be gwt-2.0.0-m0, right? On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > Mostly, this writeup is aimed at people who have been working on GWT's own > build-related stuff, but if anyone else has objections, now would be a good > time to raise them