Re: [Gretl-users] Input of csv data - does the German version work as intended?

2016-02-05 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 2/3/2016 4:23 AM, Ignacio Diaz-Emparanza wrote: > Half the world uses the decimal comma. > This strict CSV format cannot be an international standard. It is not > "internationally feasible" because of the ambiguity of the comma. This is simply a non-sequitur. We currently have an unfortunate

Re: [Gretl-users] Input of csv data - does the German version work as intended?

2016-02-02 Thread Alan G Isaac
Once again, a problem for data analysis arises when someone insists that at **COMMA** separated values file should be allowed to use commas for some other purpose. Stick to the RFC and these problems go away: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4180 I understand why it was done, but I think the

Re: [Gretl-users] thousands separator in delimited-text data

2015-02-02 Thread Alan G Isaac
Here is a different perspective. CSV mean "comma-separated values". There is a specification: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4180 Nothing else should be called CSV. Real data sets may alternatively be space-separated (SSV) or tab-separated (TSV). These should not be called CSV. In addition,

Re: [Gretl-users] Gretl and MBA Statistics

2012-12-10 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 12/10/2012 1:43 PM, Allin Cottrell wrote: > In my teaching experience, gretl can be used at various levels > of technical skill. Yes. I've used it with undergraduates in field courses. (Just be sure to prepare examples for them to follow.) Alan Isaac

Re: [Gretl-users] pre-multiplication by transpose

2012-12-07 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 12/7/2012 12:58 PM, Summers, Peter wrote: > But associativity assumes all products are well-defined. A*(B*C) in your > example generates an error because B*C fails. Indeed. That is the point of the example.

Re: [Gretl-users] CSV and decimal point character

2011-11-25 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 11/25/2011 06:50 PM, Henrique Andrade wrote: > I´m trying to save data into comma-separated values (the > csv extension) files using the Brazilian standard (comma as the decimal point If you want to use the CSV extension, you should use international notation (i.e., the full stop as the

Re: [Gretl-users] how to export gretl graphics into Latex?

2011-05-09 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 5/9/2011 11:01 AM, Qi Shi wrote: > But it seems that i cannot include a eps document in a beamer slides. http://amath.colorado.edu/documentation/LaTeX/reference/figures.html hth, Alan Isaac

Re: [Gretl-users] how to export gretl graphics into Latex?

2011-05-09 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 5/9/2011 1:05 AM, Qi Shi wrote: > how to export gretl graphics into Latex? This is not a well defined question. One suspects that it is a LaTeX question: http://amath.colorado.edu/documentation/LaTeX/reference/figures.html However, you can find a discussion of exporting gretl:gnuplot graphs

[Gretl-users] implied praise of open source

2010-06-22 Thread Alan G Isaac
http://www.elpais.com/articulo/espana/Detenidos/gerentes/empresa/vendio/software/envenenado/1000/empresas/elpepuesp/20100622elpepunac_8/Tes

Re: [Gretl-users] Export data & Decimal point

2010-06-10 Thread Alan G Isaac
> Am 10.06.2010 15:13, schrieb Alan G Isaac: > > Again, why is the question not rather: > > where is the documentation of this file format? > > It seems to me that gretl should > > > > - point to or provide documentation > > - read and write the documen

Re: [Gretl-users] Export data & Decimal point

2010-06-10 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 6/10/2010 7:04 AM, Sven Schreiber wrote: > the question is: does gretl want to enforce a non-existent standard > because we (including me) like that behavior; or does gretl surrender to > the facts of the csv ecosystem and give users the option to produce > different variants of csv files. >

Re: [Gretl-users] Export data & Decimal point

2010-06-10 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 6/10/2010 3:35 AM, Riccardo (Jack) Lucchetti wrote: > While I am against this on ideological grounds, I have to admit that a > checkbox wouldn't be difficult to add. But I hate the idea of giving > support or credibility to the concept of "national CSV" format, which > is, after all, one of

Re: [Gretl-users] DAG GRAPHS

2010-03-22 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 3/22/2010 4:10 AM, krishna murthy wrote: > CAN I DRAW Directed Acyclic Graph using gretl software (windows) gnuplot can draw labels and arrows, but http://www.graphviz.org/ http://networkx.lanl.gov/gallery.html fwiw, Alan Isaac

Re: [Gretl-users] To the point, or to ,,,?!

2010-01-28 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 1/28/2010 10:37 AM, Len Vir wrote: > In French, I use the comma, > in English, I use the dot. > It's just custom. Let's take a stand. I am going to suggest that when doing science, the right thing to do is use a dot when a decimal separator is needed. This is really closest to being an

Re: [Gretl-users] The usage of "," and ";" and "." in Europe

2010-01-28 Thread Alan G Isaac
http://tug.ctan.org/cgi-bin/ctanPackageInformation.py?id=comma fwiw, Alan Isaac

Re: [Gretl-users] png plots from gnuplot on Windows

2009-11-06 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 11/6/2009 2:22 PM, Sven Schreiber wrote: > thanks for the effort! > Echo ... ;-) alan

Re: [Gretl-users] How to draw a vertical line on a time series plot?

2009-11-03 Thread Alan G Isaac
Just add this to your extra gnuplot commands: set arrow from x0,y0 to x1,y1 nohead hth, Alan Isaac

[Gretl-users] Fwd: Re: missing pixels for Windows PNG driver

2009-11-02 Thread Alan G Isaac
A suggestion ... Alan Original Message Subject: Re: missing pixels for Windows PNG driver List-Post: gretl-users@gretlml.univpm.it Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:33:28 -0800 From: sfeam Reply-To: sfeam(a)users.sourceforge.net Organization: gnuplot development team Newsgroups:

Re: [Gretl-users] pdfcairo

2009-11-02 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 11/2/2009 10:21 AM, Allin Cottrell wrote: > Ah, that calls for a plot that is 680 inches by 400 inches. > PDF and EPS don't go by pixels for sizing. Aha, ok, I had guessed it would use points, not inches. (Inches!?) So using a reasonable value, I get perfect output using the pdfcairo

Re: [Gretl-users] pdfcairo

2009-11-02 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 11/2/2009 9:00 AM, Allin Cottrell wrote: > And what happens > if you click on a graph, select "Save as PDF", and try previewing > the output? Perfect output, including all fonts. If I understand you, this is alos using cairo, right? (This should be a clue about the PNG bug.) So I must be

Re: [Gretl-users] pdfcairo

2009-11-02 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 11/2/2009 6:29 AM, Sven Schreiber wrote: > pdf and eps files That reminds me of another question: if I use gretl's gnuplot and use set terminal pdfcairo I get no usuable output. Should this work? Thanks, Alan

Re: [Gretl-users] missing pixels at beginning of ylabel

2009-11-01 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 11/1/2009 7:26 PM, Allin Cottrell wrote: > I'm not sure if this is really worth bothering about -- since PNG > is not the format of choice for "production quality" graphics -- > but it does appear that there's a teensy bug somewhere in the > implementations of pango and/or cairo for MS Windows,

Re: [Gretl-users] missing pixels at beginning of ylabel

2009-11-01 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 11/1/2009 11:20 AM, Allin Cottrell wrote: > does not support libgd ... If > libgd support is not present but cairo support is, then both "set > term png" and "set term pngcairo" have the same effect: use the > cairo driver. > So it is looking likely that there is a bug in the cairo driver,

Re: [Gretl-users] missing pixels at beginning of ylabel

2009-11-01 Thread Alan G Isaac
1. I'm having a some trouble replicating this problem on a recent gnuplot download, and I'm wondering if the gretl version of gnuplot (for Windows) compiles in support for pngcairo and if that takes over as the PNG backend for the gretl version? (If I use a downloaded gretl, the PNG back end

Re: [Gretl-users] missing pixels at beginning of ylabel

2009-11-01 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 10/31/2009 5:18 PM, Allin Cottrell wrote: > 1.8.5 is the most recent release, and it incorporates an update to > the included version of CVS gnuplot (several months' worth of > fixes, as I recall), so it might be worth re-trying using that. > No change. Cheers, Alan

Re: [Gretl-users] missing pixels in ylabel

2009-10-31 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 10/31/2009 3:28 PM, Allin Cottrell wrote: > I said earlier that I'd seen some clipping of text myself, but now > that I sit down to try to replicate the problem, I can't. Could > you give an example? > Yes, I have actually had some trouble with replicability. Try this. nulldata 300

Re: [Gretl-users] unwanted clipping

2009-10-31 Thread Alan G Isaac
> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009, Alan G Isaac wrote: > > If I use > > setinfo to set a name, it is used as my ylabel, **even if** > > I explicitly set a ylabel. This violates the specificity > > principle, which should give priority to the most specific > > request (the

Re: [Gretl-users] missing pixels at beginning of ylabel

2009-10-31 Thread Alan G Isaac
> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009, Alan G Isaac wrote: > > Here is the more puzzling thing. Suppose I see this problem > > (missing pixels) in a graph I have saved as a graph obejct. > > Now I go to the icon view, pick Edit Plot Commands, and > > without changing anythin

Re: [Gretl-users] unwanted clipping

2009-10-31 Thread Alan G Isaac
> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009, Alan G Isaac wrote: > > Apparently gretl has a short limit on string length > > when using setinfo. On 10/31/2009 3:13 PM, Allin Cottrell wrote: > 32 characters including the terminating NUL. > On Sat, 31 Oct 2009, Alan G Isaac wrote: > >

Re: [Gretl-users] unwanted clipping

2009-10-31 Thread Alan G Isaac
> > On Fri, 30 Oct 2009, Alan G Isaac wrote: > > > I'm seeing clipping of the y-axis label in my graphs. > > > Known problem? > On 10/30/2009 2:25 PM, Allin Cottrell wrote: > > I've noticed that in some plots. Perhaps I should file a bug > > re

Re: [Gretl-users] unwanted clipping

2009-10-31 Thread Alan G Isaac
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009, Alan G Isaac wrote: > > I'm seeing clipping of the y-axis label in my graphs. > > Known problem? On 10/30/2009 2:25 PM, Allin Cottrell wrote: > I've noticed that in some plots. Perhaps I should file a bug > report with gnuplot; that's not someth

[Gretl-users] databank format

2009-10-30 Thread Alan G Isaac
I'd like to fetch some individual series into an existing data set. What is the right way to do this? I have the series in databank format (the traditional TSP and EViews format.) Is this supported? I've documented the databank format here:

[Gretl-users] unwanted clipping

2009-10-30 Thread Alan G Isaac
I'm seeing clipping of the y-axis label in my graphs. Known problem? Thanks, Alan Isaac

[Gretl-users] adf problem

2009-10-26 Thread Alan G Isaac
If I try to save an ADF model (script object) gretl tells me that this succeeds but the model does not appear in the icon view. Nevertheless, I can show it. Where is it? Thanks, Alan Isaac

Re: [Gretl-users] step through script

2009-10-26 Thread Alan G Isaac
> On Lunes, 26 de Octubre de 2009 16:22:06 Alan G Isaac escribió: > > Right clicking on a line does *not* work. On 10/26/2009 11:45 AM, Ignacio Diaz-Emparanza wrote: > Another possibility is CNTRL+ENTER this will execute only the line in which > the cursor is now. That works

Re: [Gretl-users] step through script

2009-10-26 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 10/26/2009 11:08 AM, Sven Schreiber wrote: > I think you could use the "execute selected region" feature: select/mark > a line in your script and right-click (I think) then choose "run region" > or somesuch. Do so for each line, this will slow you down enough so your > students can follow

[Gretl-users] step through script

2009-10-26 Thread Alan G Isaac
I have a script I would like to "step through" in the classroom, rather than running it all at once. Is there an easy way to do this? Thanks, Alan Isaac

Re: [Gretl-users] random walk

2009-10-06 Thread Alan G Isaac
Is it true that `genr` is deprecated? The command reference uses it all over the place. In contrast, `series` is not even documented. Well ok, the command reference is a few years old, but even the recent Guide refers to `genr`, not to `series`. Finally, can I assume `series` is just an alias

Re: [Gretl-users] random walk

2009-10-06 Thread Alan G Isaac
> On Mon, 5 Oct 2009, Data Analytics Corp. wrote: > > I need to do a simple thing which seemed to work before, but now it's > > not. Suppose I have a work space with the S 500 closing numbers by > > month. I now want to create a random walk. I used > > > > genr y = 0 > > genr y = y(-1) +

Re: [Gretl-users] working directory

2009-09-25 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 9/25/2009 4:01 PM, Allin Cottrell wrote: > wouldn't it be easier to have a structure of > > coursefolder > projects > > where projects/foo would contain foo.inp, foo.gdt and any other > relevant material? Yes, that has some advantages. It has two disadvantages: - projects cannot

Re: [Gretl-users] working directory

2009-09-25 Thread Alan G Isaac
> On Fri, 25 Sep 2009, Alan G Isaac wrote: > > I would like to change working directory dynamically in > > a script, to the location of the script (*without* knowing > > where that is). Is there an easy way (for students)? On 9/25/2009 2:43 PM, Allin Cottrell wrote: >

[Gretl-users] working directory

2009-09-25 Thread Alan G Isaac
I would like to change working directory dynamically in a script, to the location of the script (*without* knowing where that is). Is there an easy way (for students)? I realize they can change working directory in a shell and set the gretl option to follow this. That's not what Perhaps I'm

Re: [Gretl-users] Mac install

2009-09-25 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 9/25/2009 10:20 AM, Berend Hasselman wrote: > Is X11 installed? > On Leopard: has X11 fromhttp://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/wiki been > installed? > Thanks Berend. I take it X11 is not installed by default on OSX? The students do seem to be reporting an X11 problem. (I'm awaiting

[Gretl-users] Mac install

2009-09-25 Thread Alan G Isaac
I'm getting a few reports of install difficulties on the Mac. (I'm trying to gather details.) Known issue? Thanks, Alan Isaac

Re: [Gretl-users] import

2009-09-25 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 9/24/2009 11:35 PM, Allin Cottrell wrote: > And in fact I'm not so sure > that the suggested approach (checking and revising the CSV file in > a text editor before loading it into gretl) is inefficient; it may > well be optimal. This is a serious point. > I take it seriously. I always

Re: [Gretl-users] import

2009-09-24 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 9/24/2009 10:53 AM, Allin Cottrell wrote: > Could you send me a sample IFS CSV file so I can see what we're > dealing with? Thanks! > Things to notice: - date format (horrible! but easily regex'd) - empty final column (typical output; don't know why) - handling of missing values (see the

Re: [Gretl-users] import

2009-09-24 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 9/24/2009 4:42 AM, Sven Schreiber wrote: > * --coloffset doesn't convince me in the case of csv files (as opposed > to --rowoffset in csv files, or --coloffset in spreadsheet files) Why? It is important to know that important data sources (like IFS) use the first column for a date in

Re: [Gretl-users] import

2009-09-23 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 9/23/2009 8:21 PM, Allin Cottrell wrote: > Gretl-based instructions are not necessarily exclusive of shell > commands, since (a) gretl can do shell, and (b) the shell is > capable of more flexible manipulation of text files than gretl can > ever be (more so on *nix than Windows, of course, but

Re: [Gretl-users] import

2009-09-23 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 9/23/2009 2:47 PM, Allin Cottrell wrote: > One could fairly easily write a shell > command to preprocess the data and execute it via "!" > in gretl. > Sure, but I'm trying to help students get IFS data into gretl. They have been generally encouraged to use CSV files, so I'm trying to give

Re: [Gretl-users] import

2009-09-23 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 9/23/2009 2:31 PM, Henrique wrote: > I'm not sure about CSV files, but Gretl can open spreadsheet files > (Gnumeric, Open Document and Excel) and plain text in the way you > want. Look at page 39 in the Gretl Command Reference. Example: > > open "C:\yourdata.xls" --sheet=3 --rowoffset=1

Re: [Gretl-users] import

2009-09-23 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 9/23/2009 2:09 PM, Alan G Isaac wrote: > if specifying the date range is not possible, > is it possible to reset the dataset structure at the > command line (rather than via menus)? Ooops, forgot about `setobs`... Alan Isaac

[Gretl-users] import

2009-09-23 Thread Alan G Isaac
User Guide 4.4 refers to the `import` command. It does not appear in the command ref. If you go to the console and type:: help import you are told `import` is not a gretl command. It is of course, but apparently undocumented? I'd like to import data from a CSV file. I'd like to do this

Re: [Gretl-users] graph output

2009-09-21 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 9/21/2009 4:41 PM, Allin Cottrell wrote: > gnuplot PRICE INCOME --time --output=/home/cottrell/tmp/foo.eps > > Well yes of course, I guess, I cannot *both* creat a graph object and write the file ... anyway, that works in a script. Thanks! Alan

Re: [Gretl-users] graph output

2009-09-21 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 9/21/2009 3:42 PM, Alan G Isaac wrote: > 2. Is it possible to output graphs to arbitrary > locations? (They always end up in my working > directory, even if I give a fully qualified path > name.) > I was wrong: I'm getting no output files at all. (I was finding an old one

[Gretl-users] graph output

2009-09-21 Thread Alan G Isaac
1. Is it possible to output a graph to file from the gretl console? (I understand I can show the graph and then right click it. I'm looking for a command.) 2. Is it possible to output graphs to arbitrary locations? (They always end up in my working directory, even if I give a fully qualified