Re: Switching to git?

2008-01-04 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
At Sat, 22 Dec 2007 09:28:28 +0100, Yoshinori K. Okuji wrote: On Tuesday 18 December 2007 13:05, Otavio Salvador wrote: Personally I don't like bazaar due performance problem. It's really slow for big projects (it wouldn't be a big problem since GRUB is a small one) and it changes its

Re: Switching to git?

2008-01-04 Thread Otavio Salvador
Jeroen Dekkers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At Sat, 22 Dec 2007 09:28:28 +0100, Yoshinori K. Okuji wrote: On Tuesday 18 December 2007 13:05, Otavio Salvador wrote: Personally I don't like bazaar due performance problem. It's really slow for big projects (it wouldn't be a big problem since

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-22 Thread Yoshinori K. Okuji
On Tuesday 18 December 2007 13:05, Otavio Salvador wrote: - All developers are forced to install new software and learn it (always a pain). Developers are used (or ought to) to learn new things since it's of programming art. I guess learning wouldn't be a problem. From a theoretical point

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-22 Thread Yoshinori K. Okuji
On Saturday 22 December 2007 12:20, Robert Millan wrote: On Sat, Dec 22, 2007 at 09:50:50AM +0100, Yoshinori K. Okuji wrote: Finally, things like grub4dos should not be forks, they should be branches. This would give then a better exposure. CVS branch support is pathetic, and the same

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-22 Thread Robert Millan
On Sat, Dec 22, 2007 at 09:50:50AM +0100, Yoshinori K. Okuji wrote: Finally, things like grub4dos should not be forks, they should be branches. This would give then a better exposure. CVS branch support is pathetic, and the same applies to Subversion, although for different reasons.

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-22 Thread Pavel Roskin
Quoting Robert Millan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Maybe you find interesting to know that I never use RCS (any of them) merging feature at all. I prefer to extract patches from RCS and manage them myself. I often even manage branches by hand as well. Just to clear any misunderstanding, extracting a

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-21 Thread Vesa Jääskeläinen
Pavel Roskin wrote: On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 20:30 +0200, Vesa Jääskeläinen wrote: Just leave cygwin out of the box... thank you! cygwin is one of the worst pieces of software that just does not work correctly. I wonder if you have actually used the native Windows port of CVS. Do you want

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-18 Thread Otavio Salvador
Yoshinori K. Okuji [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tuesday 18 December 2007 02:20, Pavel Roskin wrote: If there are any specific problems with git pertinent to GRUB or preferences of the GRUB developers, I'm ready to convey them to the git developers and take the blame (if any). We don't have

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-18 Thread Pavel Roskin
Hello! Quoting Yoshinori K. Okuji [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I bet that you under-estimate the pain of migrating to another SCM. I have experienced such migrations twice, and they were always a pain, something that nobody wants to repeat. I went through some migrations (CVS to Subversion and CVS to

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-18 Thread Vesa Jääskeläinen
Otavio Salvador wrote: Yoshinori K. Okuji [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ok, now about the git. As Tomáš pointed out, the lack of portability is regression from CVS. If you think, for example, grub4dos is important, why can you choose git? Agree on that too. It's not that bad[1] and users

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-18 Thread Pavel Roskin
On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 20:30 +0200, Vesa Jääskeläinen wrote: Just leave cygwin out of the box... thank you! cygwin is one of the worst pieces of software that just does not work correctly. I wonder if you have actually used the native Windows port of CVS. In my point-of-view portability

RE: Switching to git?

2007-12-18 Thread Gregg C Levine
  -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:grub-devel- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vesa Jääskeläinen Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 1:30 PM To: The development of GRUB 2 Subject: Re: Switching to git? Otavio Salvador wrote: Yoshinori K. Okuji [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-17 Thread Markus Elfring
I do object. Personally, I believe that git is inferior to other modern version control systems, thus I don't want to move. If we do, I prefer to go with something better. Which features are you missing? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_revision_control_software Which management

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-17 Thread Otavio Salvador
Yoshinori K. Okuji [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Saturday 15 December 2007 11:54, Robert Millan wrote: So it seems nobody objected. What do we need to proceed? I do object. Personally, I believe that git is inferior to other modern version control systems, thus I don't want to move. If we

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-17 Thread Markus Elfring
Inferior? I see the disadvantage, that now it works only on unix. This view is incomplete. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_%28software%29#Portability There might be some inconvenience so far. TortoiseSVN is nice because it works as a shell extension for the Windows Explorer. Trac can provide a

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-17 Thread willem
Markus Elfring wrote: I do object. Personally, I believe that git is inferior to other modern version control systems, thus I don't want to move. If we do, I prefer to go with something better. Which features are you missing?

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-17 Thread willem
Otavio Salvador wrote: Yoshinori K. Okuji [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Saturday 15 December 2007 11:54, Robert Millan wrote: So it seems nobody objected. What do we need to proceed? I do object. Personally, I believe that git is inferior to other modern version control

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-17 Thread Pavel Roskin
Quoting willem [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Otavio Salvador wrote: Yoshinori K. Okuji [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Saturday 15 December 2007 11:54, Robert Millan wrote: So it seems nobody objected. What do we need to proceed? I do object. Personally, I believe that git is inferior to other

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-17 Thread Otavio Salvador
Pavel Roskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If there are any specific problems with git pertinent to GRUB or preferences of the GRUB developers, I'm ready to convey them to the git developers and take the blame (if any). Personally I'm very happy with GIT and I'm using it in daily basis for most

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-17 Thread Yoshinori K. Okuji
On Tuesday 18 December 2007 02:20, Pavel Roskin wrote: If there are any specific problems with git pertinent to GRUB or preferences of the GRUB developers, I'm ready to convey them to the git developers and take the blame (if any). We don't have to look for the best tool, just for the best

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-16 Thread Robert Millan
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 02:32:29AM -0200, Otavio Salvador wrote: Robert Millan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So it seems nobody objected. What do we need to proceed? Prepare a file with authors names to be used during the conversion and a run to git-cvsimport using it? :-) I mean in the

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-16 Thread Pavel Roskin
Quoting Robert Millan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 02:32:29AM -0200, Otavio Salvador wrote: Robert Millan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So it seems nobody objected. What do we need to proceed? Prepare a file with authors names to be used during the conversion and a run to

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-16 Thread Yoshinori K. Okuji
On Saturday 15 December 2007 11:54, Robert Millan wrote: So it seems nobody objected. What do we need to proceed? I do object. Personally, I believe that git is inferior to other modern version control systems, thus I don't want to move. If we do, I prefer to go with something better. Okuji

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-15 Thread Robert Millan
So it seems nobody objected. What do we need to proceed? On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 12:45:48PM -0500, Pavel Roskin wrote: Hello! This is a reaction to the BTS overhaul post, I just don't want to hijack the thread with a separate topic. If someone asked me what is the project that is not

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-15 Thread Otavio Salvador
Robert Millan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So it seems nobody objected. What do we need to proceed? Prepare a file with authors names to be used during the conversion and a run to git-cvsimport using it? :-) -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R -

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-12 Thread Robert Millan
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 12:45:48PM -0500, Pavel Roskin wrote: Other GNU projects have switched to git. Savannah supports git. The list of the GNU projects using git is pretty impressive: http://git.sv.gnu.org/gitweb/ Savannah support was the main concern raised by Okuji last time a

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-12 Thread Pavel Roskin
Quoting Robert Millan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I myself have no objection. I'd prefer svn, but that's not supported by Savannah yet, and anything is better than CVS IMO. In the event that we decide to migrate to svn in the future, though, is there an easy path from git to svn? I believe git-svn

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-12 Thread Otavio Salvador
Robert Millan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I myself have no objection. I'd prefer svn, but that's not supported by Savannah yet, and anything is better than CVS IMO. In the event that we decide to migrate to svn in the future, though, is there an easy path from git to svn? I doubt that you'll

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-12 Thread Amin Azez
* Otavio Salvador wrote, On 12/12/07 15:03: Robert Millan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I myself have no objection. I'd prefer svn, but that's not supported by Savannah yet, and anything is better than CVS IMO. In the event that we decide to migrate to svn in the future, though, is there an

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-12 Thread Robert Millan
On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 10:36:17AM -0500, Pavel Roskin wrote: Quoting Robert Millan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I myself have no objection. I'd prefer svn, but that's not supported by Savannah yet, and anything is better than CVS IMO. In the event that we decide to migrate to svn in the future,

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-07 Thread Otavio Salvador
willem [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Otavio Salvador wrote: Pavel Roskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Other GNU projects have switched to git. Savannah supports git. The list of the GNU projects using git is pretty impressive: http://git.sv.gnu.org/gitweb/ I think GNU GRUB would be a

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-07 Thread willem
Otavio Salvador wrote: willem [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Otavio Salvador wrote: Pavel Roskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Other GNU projects have switched to git. Savannah supports git. The list of the GNU projects using git is pretty impressive:

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-07 Thread Pavel Roskin
Hello! On Fri, 2007-12-07 at 23:16 -0200, Otavio Salvador wrote: Vesa Jääskeläinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Git indeed has some nice features, but why I would hesitate its usage is that it does not integrate well with some IDE's like Eclipse. I know there has been some plugin (dead

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-07 Thread Otavio Salvador
Vesa Jääskeläinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: willem wrote: Otavio Salvador wrote: Pavel Roskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Other GNU projects have switched to git. Savannah supports git. The list of the GNU projects using git is pretty impressive: http://git.sv.gnu.org/gitweb/ I think GNU

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-07 Thread Vesa Jääskeläinen
willem wrote: Otavio Salvador wrote: Pavel Roskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Other GNU projects have switched to git. Savannah supports git. The list of the GNU projects using git is pretty impressive: http://git.sv.gnu.org/gitweb/ I think GNU GRUB would be a welcome addition. +1. I

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-06 Thread Otavio Salvador
Pavel Roskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Other GNU projects have switched to git. Savannah supports git. The list of the GNU projects using git is pretty impressive: http://git.sv.gnu.org/gitweb/ I think GNU GRUB would be a welcome addition. +1. I brought this up to discussion some time ago

Re: Switching to git?

2007-12-06 Thread willem
Otavio Salvador wrote: Pavel Roskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Other GNU projects have switched to git. Savannah supports git. The list of the GNU projects using git is pretty impressive: http://git.sv.gnu.org/gitweb/ I think GNU GRUB would be a welcome addition. +1. I brought this