Stop sending these incoherent essay length rants to the Guix mailing
lists. You've made your point dozens of times. Thanks in advance.
- Dave
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
> I am calling those who have integrity to resign from GNU project, that
> is dif
s sharing a vision for a stronger GNU
> > Project, are publishing this statement today:
> >
> > https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/
> >
> > We are somewhat abusing the Guix blog here, for lack of a better place,
> > but OTOH the futu
Ludovic Courtès writes:
> Hello Guix!
>
> We, a group of GNU maintainers sharing a vision for a stronger GNU
> Project, are publishing this statement today:
>
> https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/
>
> We are somewhat abusing the Guix
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I am against bias against any group -- including women -- and the
criticisms of me ar
> You miss how any GNU project works. The key point is the do-ocracy:
> the people who are currently doing decide how they want to do.
I'm completely agree with you, that is why I didn't say to anyone what
should they do or not,
That is also why I accept the female-grammar in that moment. (When I
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 18:14, Wilson Bustos wrote:
> That makes me feel uncomfortable with this project and I'm also sure that the
> same is what happen with a lot of more persons.
> I'm an example about how a persons who wanted to help to this project feels
> disagree with your path and get re
I explain in my answer my reasons,
For me if is about collaboration, I'll do it anyway even if I'm totally
disagree with the gender politics and I was completely clear in my message,
In the same message I said that Is more important is have an Spanish
version that have nothing at all, even if that
Dear Wilson,
On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 19:47, Wilson Bustos wrote:
> For example at the point to change the rules of a human language just for
> politics reason.
I do not understand your point because you gently asked about this
rule in this message on the 31rst of July.
https://lists.gnu.org/a
Dne 14. 10. 19 v 3:44 Richard Stallman napsal(a):
> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]]
> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
>
> > GNU and free software
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[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
Communism is off-topic for this list. So homosexuality or
any other form of gender o
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[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
> GNU and free software philosophy is not made to exclude any women or
> any men,
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> Also just to clarify, I don't give a rat's ass about Motherboard's
> reporting.
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> The GNU project should publish a list of ideologies that are officially
> banne
On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 3:39 PM pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) <
pelzflor...@pelzflorian.de> wrote:
> GNU projects should be feminist, because losing contributors, users
> and advocates because of toxic behavior harms free software. This is
> not unrelated politics. It is very important.
>
This pus
Ludovic Courtès writes:
> Hi Mikhail,
>
> Mikhail Kryshen skribis:
>
>> I'm deeply disappointed to see this. I always thought that the free
>> software community have strong and independent culture, and it's very
>> sad to see GNU maintainers, for whose work I have great respect, fall
>> for th
On 10/12/19 9:43 PM, Taylan Kammer wrote:
> On 12.10.2019 01:04, Jelle Licht wrote:
>> Taylan Kammer writes:
>>
>>> [snip]
(skipped)
>
> Going by this logic, we could ban support of communism based on things
> done by the Soviet or things currently done by the People's Republic of
> China or No
Throughout this discussion I see some implicit assumption that „feminism
= women will like it“. But actually: not all women are feminists.
Franta
P writes:
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Saturday, October 12, 2019 7:09 PM, wrote:
>
>> Can everyone move this discussion elsewhere? Seeing that this is not
>> related to the GNU system or Guix.
>
> I resisted replying for a few days, hoping that the moderators would
> lock people li
František Kučera wrote:
> P.S. technical note to all: please do not add my address as an explicit
> recipient – it is superfluous – just respond to the mailing list and I will
> get your e-mail.
I beg my pardon. Even if we put aside, that this is bad practice that harms
readability and search
a...@gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) wrote:
Taylan Kammer wrote:
>> The GNU project should publish a list of ideologies that are officially
>> banned from its channels so people know what they're in for. All other
>> topics should be treated neutrally so long as nobody is using slurs or a
>> bullyi
Dne 12. 10. 19 v 21:28 Wilson Bustos napsal(a):
> How the normal language make women be a second-class citizens?
>
> That is ridiculous!
+1
BTW: In Czech language we have a word „osoba“ which means a „person“.
And „osoba“ is grammatically feminine (she) but denotes both men and
women. And – it mi
Dne 12. 10. 19 v 21:24 P napsal(a):
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Saturday, October 12, 2019 7:04 PM, Wilson Bustos
> wrote:
>
>> >> Language changes. Get over it.
>>
>> Actually the spanish language has not changed in that sent.
>> No one talks in 'political correctness spanish' or in '
On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 08:54:14PM +0200, Jean Louis wrote:
> Richard is guilty of what? Flirting? Pleasure Cards? Hahhahahahahahha.
>
> Jean
>
IMHO this is an important reason.
On Medium in her blog post, Selam G. referenced a report by MIT women
from 1983. In Chapter 3 it says (please excude
How the normal language make women be a second-class citizens?
That is ridiculous!
Regards
El sáb., 12 oct. 2019 a las 16:24, P () escribió:
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Saturday, October 12, 2019 7:04 PM, Wilson Bustos
> wrote:
>
> >> Language changes. Get over it.
>
> Actually the
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Saturday, October 12, 2019 7:09 PM, wrote:
> Can everyone move this discussion elsewhere? Seeing that this is not
> related to the GNU system or Guix.
I resisted replying for a few days, hoping that the moderators would lock
people like Louis out and the thre
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Saturday, October 12, 2019 7:04 PM, Wilson Bustos wrote:
>>> Language changes. Get over it.
>
> Actually the spanish language has not changed in that sent.
> No one talks in 'political correctness spanish' or in 'feminist spanish'.
> So you are not writing span
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Saturday, October 12, 2019 6:54 PM, Jean Louis wrote:
> No fact there, just rumor.
Very well, then your claim that you do not discriminate in your hiring
practices is also not a fact, merely a rumor.
You do not seem to judge feminists by the same scale as yo
Can everyone move this discussion elsewhere? Seeing that this is not
related to the GNU system or Guix.
>> Language changes. Get over it.
Actually the spanish language has not changed in that sent.
No one talks in 'political correctness spanish' or in 'feminist spanish'.
So you are not writing spanish itself, just a modified version pushed by
political agenda.
All the best =)
El sáb., 12 oct. 2019
* P [2019-10-12 20:38]:
You have been quoting from Andy Wingo blog:
> The great tragedy of RMS's tenure in the supposedly universalist FSF
> and GNU projects is that he behaves in a way that is particularly
> alienating to women.
GNU project is apolitical. RMS never established any discriminato
On 12.10.2019 01:04, Jelle Licht wrote:
> Taylan Kammer writes:
>
>> [snip]
>>
>> All other political conflicts should IMO be decided on a case by case
>> basis with the goal of reaching mutual compromise within the confines of
>> the communication channels of the GNU project. That is, 1. no fav
* Wilson Bustos [2019-10-12 20:25]:
> Change a language's rules to fit your politics because you feel the normal
> language is offensive,is actually extreme.
>
> All the best
Alright, that is your opinion.
Related to GNU project and welcoming of everybody, and always
appreciating and respecting
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Saturday, October 12, 2019 6:27 PM, Jean Louis wrote:
> - P pron...@protonmail.com [2019-10-12 20:03]:
>
> > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> > On Saturday, October 12, 2019 5:53 PM, Jean Louis bugs@gnu.support wrote:
> >
> > > When you have reviewed the fa
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Saturday, October 12, 2019 6:24 PM, Wilson Bustos wrote:
> Change a language's rules to fit your politics because you feel the normal
> language is offensive,is actually extreme.
> All the best,
Language changes. Get over it.
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Saturday, October 12, 2019 6:22 PM, Jean Louis wrote:
> - P pron...@protonmail.com [2019-10-12 20:00]:
>
> > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> > On Saturday, October 12, 2019 5:46 PM, Wilson Bustos wrbut...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Don't you think tha
* P [2019-10-12 20:03]:
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Saturday, October 12, 2019 5:53 PM, Jean Louis wrote:
>
> > When you have reviewed the facts and not just blindly respond back
> > with your emotional reaction, let me know, as I like exchanging on
> > true facts, not emotional or p
Change a language's rules to fit your politics because you feel the normal
language is offensive,is actually extreme.
All the best,
El sáb., 12 oct. 2019 a las 15:00, P () escribió:
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Saturday, October 12, 2019 5:46 PM, Wilson Bustos
> wrote:
>
> > Don't yo
* P [2019-10-12 20:00]:
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Saturday, October 12, 2019 5:46 PM, Wilson Bustos
> wrote:
>
> > Don't you think that is extreme?
>
> I do not. What's extreme is that you feel like such a tiny thing is extreme.
> Quit your whining or find a new hobby.
I do not
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Saturday, October 12, 2019 5:53 PM, Jean Louis bugs@gnu.support wrote:
>
> > When you have reviewed the facts and not just blindly respond back
> > with your emotional reaction, let me know, as I like exchanging on
> > true facts, not emotional or political r
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Saturday, October 12, 2019 5:53 PM, Jean Louis wrote:
> When you have reviewed the facts and not just blindly respond back
> with your emotional reaction, let me know, as I like exchanging on
> true facts, not emotional or political responses.
>
> Jean
Have yo
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Saturday, October 12, 2019 5:46 PM, Wilson Bustos wrote:
> Don't you think that is extreme?
I do not. What's extreme is that you feel like such a tiny thing is extreme.
Quit your whining or find a new hobby.
* Wilson Bustos [2019-10-12 19:47]:
> P,
> The problem is when that politics gets extreme.
> For example at the point to change the rules of a human language just for
> politics reason.
>
> The guixSD Spanish manual for example says : 'la usuaria' to refer to every
> user
I understand that certa
* P [2019-10-12 19:38]:
> If women should be welcome in tech is a step too far for you, then
> you are too whiny to be useful in tech.
Every women is welcome in free software and any activity in life if
you ask me.
I never stated different and never will.
In fact I do not observe the sex of per
P,
The problem is when that politics gets extreme.
For example at the point to change the rules of a human language just for
politics reason.
The guixSD Spanish manual for example says : 'la usuaria' to refer to every
user
But in Spanish 'la usuaria' only refers to a female user, and 'el usuario'
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Saturday, October 12, 2019 5:36 PM, wrote:
> But we cannot take off somebody's rights on his own organization like GNU and
> so on.
> znavko.
It's not "his own organization". He can remain a contributor but he shouldn't
remain any kind of chief.
, "Ludovic Courtès" wrote:
> Hello Guix!
>
> We, a group of GNU maintainers sharing a vision for a stronger GNU
> Project, are publishing this statement today:
>
> https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project
>
> We are somewhat abusing th
On Saturday, October 12, 2019 5:22 PM, Jean Louis wrote:
> - František Kučera konfere...@frantovo.cz [2019-10-12 19:13]:
>
> > Dne 12. 10. 19 v 15:38 pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) napsal(a):
> >
> > > On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 03:06:31PM +0200, Jean Louis wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ludovic Courtès and And
* Alfred M. Szmidt [2019-10-12 19:13]:
>Hasn't RMS already officially stepped down?
>
> He resigned from the FSF board, he is still Chief GNUisance.
That means nothing in terms of legality and policy making. Stepping
down as President of FSF means really only that FSF has different way
of
* František Kučera [2019-10-12 19:13]:
> Dne 12. 10. 19 v 15:38 pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) napsal(a):
> > On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 03:06:31PM +0200, Jean Louis wrote:
> >> Ludovic Courtès and Andy Wingo and other people who are introducing
> >> their pro-feminist political views into the apolitical
Hasn't RMS already officially stepped down?
He resigned from the FSF board, he is still Chief GNUisance.
What position does he hold within today's GNU project other than
being a wise old person (wise with respect to his topics of
expertise) who is respected a lot?
While the GNU pro
* Eric Myhre [2019-10-12 18:10]:
> Can you just... Stop?
I am hurring to stop as soon as Guix people take politics out of GNU
project from guix.gnu.org domain.
Jean
: Wilson Bustos
Cc: Guix-devel , fsf-and-...@fsf.org, gnu-and-...@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project
* Wilson Bustos [2019-10-12 17:45]:
> Why should GuixSD feminist?
> Free software movement is no about popularity, is about freedom.
Because Ludovic Courtès said t
* Wilson Bustos [2019-10-12 17:45]:
> Why should GuixSD feminist?
> Free software movement is no about popularity, is about freedom.
Because Ludovic Courtès said to me so, when I asked him, that reason
for defamation of RMS is their abort() joke and Emacs Virgin jokes,
including the "MIT episodes
Hello Guix,
Since the shitshow seems unstoppable at this point, allow me to add my
little crap to it. I have contributed (very) few patches to Guix and
GNU, but mean to contribute more to Guix whatever the outcome of the
drama.
First I want to thoroughly thanks Ludovic Courtès, Ricardo Wurmus and
Why should GuixSD feminist?
Free software movement is no about popularity, is about freedom.
If woman's come to the project should be for what we are, not because we
will became a feminist movement.
Of course is some way the project is politics, but free software politics
not gender identity poli
* Christophe Poncy [2019-10-11 23:10]:
> On 2019-10-11 20:41, Taylan Kammer wrote:
> > […] What position does he
> > hold within today's GNU project other than being a wise old person
> > (wise with respect to his topics of expertise) who is respected a lot?
> >
>
> As a simple user, I see him
* Wilson Bustos [2019-10-10 22:52]:
> P,
> > And even before this incident, I've seen people say they don't want to
> get into free software because of Stallman's behaviour and because people
> defend him from any criticism.
> So, why didn't you do anything before? why now? If it was a real issue
Dne 12. 10. 19 v 15:38 pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) napsal(a):
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 03:06:31PM +0200, Jean Louis wrote:
>> Ludovic Courtès and Andy Wingo and other people who are introducing
>> their pro-feminist political views into the apolitical GNU project
>> are mixing the independent GNU p
* pelzflorian [2019-10-12 15:38]:
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 03:06:31PM +0200, Jean Louis wrote:
> > Ludovic Courtès and Andy Wingo and other people who are introducing
> > their pro-feminist political views into the apolitical GNU project
> > are mixing the independent GNU project with their femin
On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 03:06:31PM +0200, Jean Louis wrote:
> Ludovic Courtès and Andy Wingo and other people who are introducing
> their pro-feminist political views into the apolitical GNU project
> are mixing the independent GNU project with their feminist stances.
>
Thank you for making clear
> > https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/
> >
> > We are somewhat abusing the Guix blog here, for lack of a better
> > place, but OTOH the future of GNU is obviously relevant to Guix.
> > (Ricardo and I started this initiative before Tob
Dear Jean-Louis,
Could you please stop sending messages to the channel?
Thanks,
PHF
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On 12 oct. 2019 à 14:19, Jean Louis a écrit :
> * Quiliro Ordóñez [2019-10-11 01:27]:
>> * Ricardo Wurmus [2019-10-10 07:09]:
>> > I have pr
or public
proponent for free software, he is free to do what he wish.
However, the fact that Ludovic Courtès is not a public proponent of
free software and that he never mentioned free software movements and
importances of it, that I know, does not qualify him, does not make
him trusted to say
* Quiliro Ordóñez [2019-10-11 01:27]:
> * Ricardo Wurmus [2019-10-10 07:09]:
> > I have previously asked you privately to stop spamming our mailing
> > lists. I am asking you a second time publicly. If you keep disrupting
> > our mailing lists your posts will be moderated.
>
> Censorship is th
rters of the pro-feminist politics have published their
pro-feminist statement here:
https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/ and
have not openly said what it is, neither stated the fact, but tried to
bring GNU community down for reasons of Thoughtcrime[1].
Ludovic Courtès said to
Dear Ludovic,
Hello, how are you? I was on long travel, could not answer you earlier.
* Ludovic Courtès [2019-10-10 16:29]:
> Hi Jean-Louis,
>
> Jean Louis skribis:
>
> > * Ricardo Wurmus [2019-10-10 07:09]:
> >> I have previously asked you privately to stop spamming our mailing
> >> lists.
* Svante Signell [2019-10-10 22:23]:
> On Thu, 2019-10-10 at 19:22 +, Jean Louis wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Your problem is that you published this statement to guix-devel. If
> > > you don't mind, I'll forward your mail to gnu-system-discuss, which
> > > is the appropriate mailing list.
> >
> >
Taylan Kammer writes:
> [snip]
>
> All other political conflicts should IMO be decided on a case by case
> basis with the goal of reaching mutual compromise within the confines of
> the communication channels of the GNU project. That is, 1. no favorites
> on who gets to silence who and 2. the
On 2019-10-11 20:41, Taylan Kammer wrote:
[…] What position does he
hold within today's GNU project other than being a wise old person
(wise with respect to his topics of expertise) who is respected a lot?
As a simple user, I see him as the guardian of the temple ("Chief
GNUisance"), and tha
Taylan Kammer wrote:
> On 07.10.2019 16:32, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
>>https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/
>
> Some drama about this leaked out of my mailing list-specific sub-folders
> (which I only skim occasionally) into my main INBOX, so
On 07.10.2019 16:32, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> Hello Guix!
>
> We, a group of GNU maintainers sharing a vision for a stronger GNU
> Project, are publishing this statement today:
>
>https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/
>
> We are somewhat ab
Dne 11. 10. 19 v 9:45 Ludovic Courtès napsal(a):
> Nice. This list is about Guix development though. My email was
> directed at the Guix developers and it’s not helpful when “outsiders”
> chime in.
Your activities are (negatively) affecting whole FSF/GNU and free
software movement in general. So
Hi Quiliro,
Quiliro Ordóñez skribis:
> * Ricardo Wurmus [2019-10-10 07:09]:
>> I have previously asked you privately to stop spamming our mailing
>> lists. I am asking you a second time publicly. If you keep disrupting
>> our mailing lists your posts will be moderated.
>
> Censorship [...]
T
Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> So it really isn’t about what
> “the media” said last week or the week before.
If this is the case then the timing of this move is really very unfortunate. If
this is a decision many years in the making then it seems hard to imagine a
worse time to publicly act on it
* Ricardo Wurmus [2019-10-10 07:09]:
> I have previously asked you privately to stop spamming our mailing
> lists. I am asking you a second time publicly. If you keep disrupting
> our mailing lists your posts will be moderated.
Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or o
Hi Stefan,
[- help-guix]
> Is Guix a political Project now?
The GNU project has always been a political project. Guix is part of
GNU.
--
Ricardo
Hi Mikhail,
Mikhail Kryshen skribis:
> I'm deeply disappointed to see this. I always thought that the free
> software community have strong and independent culture, and it's very
> sad to see GNU maintainers, for whose work I have great respect, fall
> for the moral panic that is being spread b
Dne 09. 10. 19 v 10:56 Andy Wingo napsal(a):
> https://wingolog.org/archives/2019/10/08/thoughts-on-rms-and-gnu
>
> the best thing that he could do for GNU is to stop pretending to run
> things, to instead declare victory and retire to an emeritus role.
Of course, one day he will have to retire a
Hi Thorsten,
Thorsten Wilms skribis:
> I don't get what made you guys start Guix as GNU project, if you have
> such an issue with Stallman (which I do understand)?
GNU is not about Stallman, it’s about building a free operating system.
These are idea(l)s I and others here very much support.
I
On Fri, 2019-10-11 at 03:11 +0530, Arun Isaac wrote:
> > For what it is worth, I have some personal answers to some of these
> > questions here:
> >
> > https://wingolog.org/archives/2019/10/08/thoughts-on-rms-and-gnu
>
> I largely agree with the thoughts you have expressed in this blog
> post.
> For what it is worth, I have some personal answers to some of these
> questions here:
>
> https://wingolog.org/archives/2019/10/08/thoughts-on-rms-and-gnu
I largely agree with the thoughts you have expressed in this blog
post. I think the original joint statement on the Guix blog should
artic
I kindly ask to remove this statement from the Guix site. It's
inappropriate, it's poisonous for the community (you can see this
clearly now). Anyone can have their own opinion in this discussion,
but _PLEASE_ can we divide OS development and politics?
There are more appropriate places to post such
P,
> And even before this incident, I've seen people say they don't want to
get into free software because of Stallman's behaviour and because people
defend him from any criticism.
So, why didn't you do anything before? why now? If it was a real issue that
would happen in before, not now.
> Don't
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 7:22 PM, Jean Louis wrote:
> > Your problem is that you published this statement to guix-devel. If you
> > don't mind, I'll forward your mail to gnu-system-discuss, which is the
> > appropriate mailing list.
>
> I don't mind.
>
> Guix
Problem is that such statements shall be valid all including for those who
created defamatory statements on Guix.GNU.org
Guix shall be hartass-free, but it is not, it is outrageous!
Jean
https://gnu.support/richard-stallman/Ludovic-Court%C3%A8s-Guix-is-accusing-Stallman-of-Thoughtcrime-on-his-o
On Thu, 2019-10-10 at 19:22 +, Jean Louis wrote:
>
>
> > Your problem is that you published this statement to guix-devel. If
> > you don't mind, I'll forward your mail to gnu-system-discuss, which
> > is the appropriate mailing list.
>
> I don't mind.
Sorry Jean Louis, I was addressing Ludo
>Your problem is that you published this statement to guix-devel. If you
>don't mind, I'll forward your mail to gnu-system-discuss, which is the
>appropriate mailing list.
I don't mind.
Guix developers published biased and factless defamation of RMS on Guix pages.
I have told my concerns to
ull RMS mails the day they were
published and was disgusted what media did with this conversation. In this
case I do not agree with the Guix statement
joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project...
Adam Pribyl
On Thu, 2019-10-10 at 16:29 +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> Hi Jean-Louis,
> You’ve made your point now; I see you’ve even set up a web page to
> collect hatred messages against me.
>
> I ask you to stop using the Guix mailing lists for this now. I will
> propose to the Guix maintainers to put y
I have no hate against you and never had. Observe the log. You stated with
defamation and FUD, not me.
Your censorship policy is already well known. So block, I don't mind.
You are not answering with facts but bringing more and more fear, uncertainty,
and doubts into your own space and destroyi
Ludovic Courtès writes:
> Hi Jean-Louis,
>
> Jean Louis skribis:
>
>> * Ricardo Wurmus [2019-10-10 07:09]:
>>> I have previously asked you privately to stop spamming our mailing
>>> lists. I am asking you a second time publicly. If you keep disrupting
>>> our mailing lists your posts will be
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 16:29:08 +0200
Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> My sincere apologies to all the Guix people who are witnessing
> this. :-(
After initial enthusiasm, the CoC issue and the reaction to the GNU
Kind Communications Guideline already convinced me that I should better
keep a fair bit of d
influence of
it).
Ludovic Courtès writes:
> Hello Guix!
>
> We, a group of GNU maintainers sharing a vision for a stronger GNU
> Project, are publishing this statement today:
>
> https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/
>
> We are somewhat ab
Hi Jean-Louis,
Jean Louis skribis:
> * Ricardo Wurmus [2019-10-10 07:09]:
>> I have previously asked you privately to stop spamming our mailing
>> lists. I am asking you a second time publicly. If you keep disrupting
>> our mailing lists your posts will be moderated.
>
> I cannot expect anyth
Dne 10. 10. 19 v 5:45 Jean Louis napsal(a):
> * Ludovic Courtès [2019-10-07 17:41]:
>> Hi František, and welcome,
>>
>> (I’m willing to answer questions like I wrote, but if we are to have a
>> more in-depth conversation, I think we should not abuse guix-devel for
>> that.)
> Now is too late, you
* Hartmut Goebel [2019-10-10 10:43]:
> Am 10.10.19 um 05:57 schrieb Jean Louis:
> > Ludo, please step down from GNU project […]
> >
> > Obviously, there are people who don't trust you.
>
> No reasons for any of the signers to step back. There are always some
> guys who don't trust others.*)
That
Am 10.10.19 um 05:57 schrieb Jean Louis:
> Ludo, please step down from GNU project […]
>
> Obviously, there are people who don't trust you.
No reasons for any of the signers to step back. There are always some
guys who don't trust others.*)
Beside this I wonder what is you legitimization of dema
* Ricardo Wurmus [2019-10-10 07:09]:
> I have previously asked you privately to stop spamming our mailing
> lists. I am asking you a second time publicly. If you keep disrupting
> our mailing lists your posts will be moderated.
I cannot expect anything else from you.
Jean
* Andy Wingo [2019-10-09 11:49]:
> For what it is worth, I have some personal answers to some of these
> questions here:
>
> https://wingolog.org/archives/2019/10/08/thoughts-on-rms-and-gnu
I am appreciating that you are publishing your opinions beyond the
GUIX.GNU.ORG and GNU.ORG domains. Tha
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