Re: [h-cost] Re: Rick Rack

2005-10-20 Thread Carolyn Kayta Barrows
Could someone explain what "ric-rac" is? It doesn't seem to be what I understand. I have several cards of ric-rac braid I got in a sale, and would use it to sew on to a garment for decoration. It was a very popular trim in the mid 50's if I remember right - that's the 1950's! But ric-rac invo

[h-cost] Re: Rick Rack

2005-10-20 Thread Pierre & Sandy Pettinger
Not historical, but fun http://www.costume-con.org/CClink/CC13/Photos/pages/ff06.shtml Sandy At 11:02 PM 10/20/2005, you wrote: Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:14:28 -0700 From: Carolyn Kayta Barrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [h-cost] Rickrack work >Does anyone know where I can get patte

Re: [h-cost] Re: Rick Rack

2005-10-20 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 06:03 21/10/2005, you wrote: Not historical, but fun http://www.costume-con.org/CClink/CC13/Photos/pages/ff06.shtml Sandy At 11:02 PM 10/20/2005, you wrote: Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:14:28 -0700 From: Carolyn Kayta Barrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [h-cost] Rickrack work >Does

Re: [h-cost] Fan

2005-10-20 Thread Kathryn Parke
You can get the link to work if you get rid of the "From" on the end of it. In any event, here's the eBay link: http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-1720-Ivory-Fan-of-Moses-the-Brazen-Serpent_W0QQitemZ8343479166QQcategoryZ20288QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem KP Joan Jurancich <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [h-cost] Fan

2005-10-20 Thread Andrea McElwain
On 10/20/05, Jacqueline Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The really annoying part is that it's working on the other lists and on my > livejournal perfectly fine. > Bice > > Jacqueline Johnson wrote: > > > I thought I'd share this fan on ebay someone has. > > > http://snipurl.com/irwfFrom the

Re: [h-cost] Fan

2005-10-20 Thread Jacqueline Johnson
The really annoying part is that it's working on the other lists and on my livejournal perfectly fine. I'm wondering if it's an embedding issue. Gah. Anyhow ladies here's the ebay link. I don't post these because frankly half the time they chop in half and are annoying. http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-17

Re: [h-cost] Fan

2005-10-20 Thread Kitty Felton
Sorry, that snipped URL is either not in our records, or private, or spam-protected. Let's snip another URL. Jacqueline Johnson wrote: I thought I'd share this fan on ebay someone has. http://snipurl.com/irwfFrom the description: This unique fan is painted with gouache on paper and is in very g

Re: [h-cost] Fan

2005-10-20 Thread Joan Jurancich
At 09:02 PM 10/20/2005, you wrote: I thought I'd share this fan on ebay someone has. http://snipurl.com/irwfFrom the description: "Very Rare and Collectible -Early 18th Century hand fan with serpentine ivory sticks mounted with leaf depicting the Biblical story (Numbers 21: 4 ­ 9) of The Isra

[h-cost] Fan

2005-10-20 Thread Jacqueline Johnson
I thought I'd share this fan on ebay someone has. http://snipurl.com/irwfFrom the description: "Very Rare and Collectible -Early 18th Century hand fan with serpentine ivory sticks mounted with leaf depicting the Biblical story (Numbers 21: 4 – 9) of The Israelites in the desert. Their punishment fo

Re: [h-cost] Cranach dress

2005-10-20 Thread michaela
<< I'm unsure about the pleating. Some sites insist on cartridge pleating but not all the paintings look like cartridge pleats. I'm thinking the front piece (Top part) is held in place with hook & eyes while the bottom is laced from side to side through concealed lacing rings.>> This is because I

Re: [h-cost] Rickrack work

2005-10-20 Thread Carolyn Kayta Barrows
All of what I've seen involves crochet. But I do own one printed sheet from the Wright trim company, showing one how to make an early 1950s dress entirely out of the stuff. You might ask them if they have a copy in their archives (because I can't find mine). I'll look into it, although I'd

Re: [h-cost] Rickrack work

2005-10-20 Thread Lavolta Press
All of what I've seen involves crochet. But I do own one printed sheet from the Wright trim company, showing one how to make an early 1950s dress entirely out of the stuff. You might ask them if they have a copy in their archives (because I can't find mine). I'll look into it, although I

Re: [h-cost] Organ pipe pleats

2005-10-20 Thread Kathryn Parke
This is fascinating -- thank you! It seems rather impractical, though -- does it provide extra warmth, perhaps, having all that extra fabric? Or was it just one more conspicuous consumption thing, do you suppose? I can certainly see how the men would appreciate looking that much more bulked-u

Re: [h-cost] Organ pipe pleats

2005-10-20 Thread WickedFrau
http://costume.dm.net/pleats/ http://www.heatherspages.net/images/flemish/rolled%20pleats.jpg http://home.znet.com/savaskan/germans/images/gerry-5.jpg I'll have to poke around for my tutorial on rolled pleatsI know I took the pictures for it...but I don't see it on my website...could have s

Re: [h-cost] Rickrack work

2005-10-20 Thread Carolyn Kayta Barrows
Does anyone know where I can get patterns or pattern booklets for rickrack work that does not involve knitting or crochet, just sewing the rickwork together in patterns? I've seen a few Victorian and Edwardian garments that used it (the Victorians tended to call it "wavy braid") but not patt

Re: [h-cost] Re: Pinna Wool-a whole dang article! (was Strange spinning question)

2005-10-20 Thread Carolyn Kayta Barrows
If this doesn't work for you *http://tinyurl.com/bpdfy* That got it. Thank you very much. CarolynKayta Barrows dollmaker, fibre artist, textillian www.FunStuft.com \\\ -@@\\\ 7 ))) ((( <> )

Re: [h-cost] Organ pipe pleats

2005-10-20 Thread Kathryn Parke
Would someone please be so kind as to provide a thumbnail description of either or both "organ pipe pleating" or "rolled pleating," or post an informative link or two? I can't even begin to picture what this might be... Thanks! KP WickedFrau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm not sure if you wan

Re: [h-cost] Organ pipe pleats

2005-10-20 Thread WickedFrau
I'm not sure if you want organ pipe pleating or rolled pleats documentation, but if it is the former, the Metropolitan Museum of Art has a military base which is organ pipe pleated (Early 16th century). Blanche Paynes "History of Costume" has a discussion and a pattern for it. I've spent some

Re: [h-cost] waistcoat again

2005-10-20 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 19:30 20/10/2005, you wrote: Hi Suzi, No it is not Galleries des modes et costumes francais, but a fashion journal called "Cahier de Costumes francaise. I must try to find out if this fashion journal is on the library of museum of fine arts, cause i have never noticed this one before. Quali

[h-cost] RE: Byssus

2005-10-20 Thread Marc Carlson
From: Beth and Bob Matney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A photograph of an exhibit of Byssus (including the mollusk, filaments, and sleeves made from it) is reproduced on page 114 of Cool. Les Etoffes... I'll see if I can't find a copy, but thanks. I'd like a scan of the picture please, if that's ok

Re: [h-cost] waistcoat again

2005-10-20 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Hi Suzi, No it is not Galleries des modes et costumes francais, but a fashion journal called "Cahier de Costumes francaise. I must try to find out if this fashion journal is on the library of museum of fine arts, cause i have never noticed this one before. Quality of the print is equally as fin

[h-cost] Organ pipe pleats

2005-10-20 Thread Wendy Bliss
> > Has anyone on the list managed to find any examples of organ-pipe (rolled) > pleating prior to the 18th century? I agree that many of the styles of 15th > and 16th century clothing look like they use them, but for the life of me > (and despite two trips to Europe), I haven't been able to find a

Re: [h-cost] Free pattern

2005-10-20 Thread Jacqueline Johnson
Heh. Makes me feel less fat than curvy which makes me like them. On 10/20/05, Betsy Marshal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I like their sizing ranges- Slinky girl, glamour girl and curvy Girl!! > B. > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com h

[h-cost] byssus

2005-10-20 Thread Julie
I didn't get that to turn up the gloves, but a search on mussel did. Also try Sir Hans Sloane...a collector of curiosities. I have to say, the gloves sure don't look particularly impressive but there isn't a good close up. Julie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Subject: [h-cost] RE: Archves

[h-cost] Re: Pinna Wool article-You don't need a subscription!

2005-10-20 Thread WickedFrau
I am sorry for all the confusion on this article, but you DON'T need a subscriptionI don't have one! I see that the link isn't working, but it did before I sent it...okay so I am confused about that, but you can just google for it as described below. Once you link to the site you can clic

Re: [h-cost] Pinna wool Citation

2005-10-20 Thread WickedFrau
Marc Carlson wrote: Besides the licensing security won't let it get past through -that- link. However, with the title and author we can pull up the item. Let me see if there are any other copies since this one is only held by two libraries on the planet. Whoops, didn't mean for you to try

[h-cost] English Gable Hoods

2005-10-20 Thread Suzi Clarke
As I am fighting a losing battle with a gable hood I am making for a museum (for members of the public to try on, so all the bits have to be sewn together - eurk!) I have been looking for as many images of gable hoods as I can find. Curiously I have only found drawings and paintings by Holbei

[h-cost] Rickrack work

2005-10-20 Thread Lavolta Press
Does anyone know where I can get patterns or pattern booklets for rickrack work that does not involve knitting or crochet, just sewing the rickwork together in patterns? I've seen a few Victorian and Edwardian garments that used it (the Victorians tended to call it "wavy braid") but not patter

Re: [h-cost] Re: Pinna Wool-a whole dang article! (was Strange spinning question)

2005-10-20 Thread Catrijn vanden Westhende
The article is available online as part of an academic journal: Notes & Records of the Royal Society [of London] The complete reference is: Notes Rec. R. Soc. Lond. 51 (1), 23–34 (1997) THE ROYAL SOCIETY AND THE TARTAR LAMB by JOHN H. APPLEBY It is not free to the general public; I was able to acc

Re: [h-cost] waistcoat again

2005-10-20 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 15:42 20/10/2005, you wrote: Hi. In The Art of Dress by Ashelford, i have found a fashionprint of a man wearing demi galla. He has lilc breeches and waistcoat, and a green jacket. These collours are equally dark. Demi Galla was unlike the full court dress only embroidered with a small edge.

[h-cost] An aside on links

2005-10-20 Thread Marc Carlson
Just an FYI -- free sites will usually allow linking, but may have security in place to discourage deep linking (linking to a page deep within a site). Sites that cost money generally have stuff in place to prohibit use of a link to someone who doesn't have the right IP address. I would need a

[h-cost] RE: Archives (was Strange spinning question)

2005-10-20 Thread Marc Carlson
I've brought these together into a single response. From: WickedFrau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Marc, you are affiliated with a University right? So I wouldn't be giving anything away by sharing this source I found? Well it's academia, so you could call it work if you wanted to :) I can't imagine

Re: [h-cost] Cranach dress

2005-10-20 Thread WickedFrau
Sighanother reminder of an article I have promised to write (for years!). The other type of pleats are typically called organ pipe pleats. There are a number of different ways to achieve the tapered tube look Sg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm unsure about the pleating. Some sites ins

[h-cost] Re: Pinna Wool-a whole dang article! (was Strange spinning question)

2005-10-20 Thread WickedFrau
If this doesn't work for you *http://tinyurl.com/bpdfy* try googling on "royal society tartar lamb" (without the quotes). It should be the first hit on the list. Within that article is quite an explanation of the stuff... Carolyn Kayta Barrows wrote: No it isn't. All I got was a website

[h-cost] waistcoat again

2005-10-20 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Hi. In The Art of Dress by Ashelford, i have found a fashionprint of a man wearing demi galla. He has lilc breeches and waistcoat, and a green jacket. These collours are equally dark. Demi Galla was unlike the full court dress only embroidered with a small edge. He is escorting a lady in full g

[h-cost] Re: Byssus

2005-10-20 Thread Beth and Bob Matney
Marc, A photograph of an exhibit of Byssus (including the mollusk, filaments, and sleeves made from it) is reproduced on page 114 of Les Etoffes: Dictionnaire Historique by Elisabeth Hardouin-Fugier & B. Berthod,. 420 pages, 9 1/2 " X 12 1/2 " ISBN: 2859171754 (my copy is the 1994 edition bu

RE: [h-cost] Free pattern

2005-10-20 Thread Betsy Marshal
I like their sizing ranges- Slinky girl, glamour girl and curvy Girl!! B. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jacqueline Johnson Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 8:05 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Free pattern They have some

Re: [h-cost] Was carpet sweeper, now dog hair

2005-10-20 Thread Joannah Hansen
An ex-housemate of ours had a pure-bred huskie and a malamute-huskie cross - when they were shedding there were drifts of fur a few inches thick! Dear heavens above, but it got *everywhere*! The thought of *25* at time is just mindboggling. Joannah. --- "Shane & Sheridan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

Re: [h-cost] OT hardwood floors and bissels

2005-10-20 Thread Nancy Kiel
Thanks for the tip--I guess it's back to scrubbing floors by hand. - Original Message - From: Elizabeth Young To: Historical Costume Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT hardwood floors and bisse

Re: [h-cost] Pinna Wool-a whole dang article! (was Strange spinning question)

2005-10-20 Thread Carolyn Kayta Barrows
More cool stuff! http://www.journals.royalsoc.ac.uk/media/n1dr7rfquj3kng4pxgfy/contributions/e/a/0/4/ea04bp9fjbb5k73n.pdf *http://tinyurl.com/7hk3z* No it isn't. All I got was a website that wanted me to sign up. Where's the article? CarolynKayta Barrows dollmaker, fibre artist, t