Re: [h-cost] Query RE: early Civil War women's dress

2010-06-08 Thread R Lloyd Mitchell
One thing about period hoops is that they fold gracefully when you sit; no pop-up or sticking out.? I have my great-grandmother's set and people have been amazed at how flexible they actually are. The shape is elipticle and length about 36" from the waist. kathleen -Original Message- Fro

Re: [h-cost] h-costume Digest, Vol 9, Issue 181

2010-06-08 Thread mmbennett
Thank you for contacting me. I will be out of the office from June 8-11 attending InfoComm. I will be responding to email as time allows. If you need immediate assistance please contact David Sam at d...@esta.org or 212.244.1505. Meredith ___ h-

[h-cost] Fwd: [MEDTC-DISCUSS] Digest Number 196

2010-06-08 Thread SNSpies
I don't know how many of you know this elist -- Medieval Textile Discussion -- but Beth Matney does a wonderful job of keeping us all up-to-date on new books, exhibitions, etc. that deal with the SCA time period. She is Very Hard on the wallet, in a delightful way, of course. Just see the l

Re: [h-cost] Query RE: early Civil War women's dress

2010-06-08 Thread Lisa A Ashton
You are reading my mind--I was just wondering: were there different sizes of hoops, or styles of hoops worn--i.e. the hoops I"ve seen patterned for ball gowns were very round and wide; were the hoops that might be worn at home narrower or different? And do you have a link or a photo or diagram

Re: [h-cost] Query RE: early Civil War women's dress

2010-06-08 Thread dana.knowles
What are the mechanics of their ability to collapse? I have never seen one personally except in a museum under clothing. -- From: "R Lloyd Mitchell" Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 6:21 AM To: "Historical Costume" Subject: Re: [h-cost] Query RE: ear

[h-cost] Victorian costuming sites?

2010-06-08 Thread Julie
My costuming experience is Renaissance and earlier. I'm just getting started w/ Victorian/U.S. Civil War and am wondering if there are some good online places I can look. I'l looking for: 1. Life & times of Queen Victoria (just watched Young Victoria & realized I don't know much about her) 2

Re: [h-cost] h-costume Digest, Vol 9, Issue 182

2010-06-08 Thread mmbennett
Thank you for contacting me. I will be out of the office from June 8-11 attending InfoComm. I will be responding to email as time allows. If you need immediate assistance please contact David Sam at d...@esta.org or 212.244.1505. Meredith ___ h-

Re: [h-cost] early Civil War women's dress - side note safety pins

2010-06-08 Thread Käthe Barrows
> Just an 'aside' -- Although the moern safety pin might have been invented > around 1845, the Princeton Art Museum has a safety pin in their ancient > Greek and Roman collection. > The "invention" is only for the safety pin as we know it today. Bronze Age folks also had fibulae, just not exactly

Re: [h-cost] medieval baby walker Re: looking for a picture

2010-06-08 Thread Käthe Barrows
I made one from a modern one with a circular top, and my older daughter a c.1595 white Elizabethan dress over it. No walker showing, and all I had to do was hold onto the leading strings. On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Mary wrote: > If you look up "Ages of man" you'll find a lot of images of a

Re: [h-cost] Query RE: early Civil War women's dress

2010-06-08 Thread R Lloyd Mitchell
My favorite hoop: Twill tape 1"/1 1/2" set on a waist band, front h/e closure. Three are set center back at2" intervals at the top; 15" at the hem.? Then ther are two sets, either side set 5" and 4" from the nearest back tape. These are 16" and 10" at the bottom base. The top hoop is set 10" dow

Re: [h-cost] Query RE: early Civil War women's dress

2010-06-08 Thread R Lloyd Mitchell
Both Cunnington and Waugh hve many pictures of the evolution of the Crinoline and hoops worn Mid 19th century. I have owned one or two petticoats that had pockets set just below the knee...great for traveling when you might not want to "retire" to access your money or other valuables...certainly

[h-cost] Civil War, Mid-19th Century

2010-06-08 Thread Elizabeth Clark
I'm pulling out various bits from previous digests, and will try to be minimally chaotic. :) Right Versus Left Closures on mid-19th century women's dresses: while a center-front opening is the norm after the 1840s, the fronts can lap either way, whichever is easiest for the woman dressing he

[h-cost] Asian fabrics in Victorian era?

2010-06-08 Thread Kimiko Small
With all the current discussion on Victorian era clothing (something I am trying to learn more about), I was wondering when Asian fabrics might have been used, if at all? Or is that something that comes in later, like Edwardian era or later? The reason why I ask is I have some Asian brocade fab

Re: [h-cost] Asian fabrics in Victorian era?

2010-06-08 Thread Marjorie Wilser
Kimiko, Think the "Opening" of Japan to trade- they developed a huge vogue for European fashion, and it reciprocated into a vogue for Japanese silks/ brocades in European vogue. == Marjorie Wilser (sorry, no dates to hand as I have to dash off tomorrow) =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:=

Re: [h-cost] Asian fabrics in Victorian era?

2010-06-08 Thread Cin
Certainly in Japan! The Bunka Gakuin had an exhibit of Worth gowns made for the Imperial Court and assorted lords & ladies, ambassadors & that sort. Lots of Asian designs of birds & flowers especially those invoking the seasons, such as peonies, cranes. Imperial chrysanthamums in profusion, of c

[h-cost] 19th c women's dress - pockets

2010-06-08 Thread Cin
While this tale occurs a good bit before the ACW & not in the US, there's nothing quite so wonderful as fashion documentation in their own words. The following is heavily excerpted from Edward Cree's “Naval Surgeon – The Voyages of Dr Edward Cree, Royal navy as Related in His Private Journals 1837

Re: [h-cost] h-costume Digest, Vol 9, Issue 183

2010-06-08 Thread mmbennett
Thank you for contacting me. I will be out of the office from June 8-11 attending InfoComm. I will be responding to email as time allows. If you need immediate assistance please contact David Sam at d...@esta.org or 212.244.1505. Meredith ___ h-

Re: [h-cost] 19th c women's dress - pockets

2010-06-08 Thread Kimiko Small
"One stout middle-aged French woman was engaged in filling her pockets which were stuffed out with cold chicken and sweet cakes as she stood before me. I was eating a custard – the opportunity was tempting – so I emptied my glass into her open pocket, and a nice mixture she must have found when sh

Re: [h-cost] 19th c women's dress - pockets

2010-06-08 Thread Cin
I cant imagine why she'd put chicken & cake in the *same* pocket. --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Kimiko Small wrote: >> "One stout middle-aged French woman was engaged in filling her >> pockets which were stuffed out with cold chicken and sweet cakes as

Re: [h-cost] 19th c women's dress - pockets

2010-06-08 Thread Lavolta Press
Yes, one does not imagine that the caterer provided little plastic take-out boxes with lids. Fran Lavolta Press Books on making historic clothing www.lavoltapress.com On 6/8/2010 3:47 PM, Cin wrote: I cant imagine why she'd put chicken& cake in the *same* pocket. --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar..

Re: [h-cost] Asian fabrics in Victorian era?

2010-06-08 Thread Lynn Downward
I just saw the exhibit, Birth of Impressionism: Masterpieces from the Musee d'Orsay at the De Young Museum, S.F. Saturday, and the piece we all know as Whistler's Mother (painted 1871) has a drapery at the left of the painting. I mentioned to my husband that I had never realized that the drape had

Re: [h-cost] Victorian costuming sites?

2010-06-08 Thread Catherine Olanich Raymond
On Tuesday 08 June 2010 1:53:18 pm Julie wrote: > My costuming experience is Renaissance and earlier. I'm just getting > started w/ Victorian/U.S. Civil War and am wondering if there are some > good online places I can look. I'l looking for: > > 1. Life & times of Queen Victoria (just watched

Re: [h-cost] 19th c women's dress - pockets

2010-06-08 Thread otsisto
Is it possible that in this case the pocket is actually a purse or pouch and not what we consider a pocket? Example: pocketbook. 18th century pocketbooks http://tinyurl.com/2ehf9ud http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:18th_century_purses 19th http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:19th_

Re: [h-cost] 19th c women's dress - pockets

2010-06-08 Thread Lavolta Press
I suspect the story is a "tall tale"/joke as regards everything that was put into the pocket and then the wine poured into it. Fran Lavolta Press www.lavoltapress.com On 6/8/2010 10:39 PM, otsisto wrote: Is it possible that in this case the pocket is actually a purse or pouch and not what we c

Re: [h-cost] 19th c women's dress - pockets

2010-06-08 Thread Aylwen Gardiner-Garden
The pockets used in the 18th century were still used well into the Victorian period. They are quite substantial in size, and tied around the waist under the skirt. I have a regency-era pocket, and have seen victorian ones when I went to England last year. Bye for now, Aylwen On Wed, Jun 9, 2