Re: [h-cost] New Topic: Is this a Postmortem Photo

2015-01-15 Thread ShaShalott
One thing I noticed is you don't see the legs or shoes of the older girl. Is that just a matter of the shadows or was it touched up somehow. Chris Perri In a message dated 1/15/2015 3:36:47 P.M. Central Standard Time, mae...@gmail.com writes: Well, it looks like we have 3 votes for po

Re: [h-cost] New York garment district

2015-01-15 Thread Lavolta Press
Is there a printed exhibit catalog? Fran Lavolta Press Books of historic clothing patterns www.lavoltapress.com On 1/15/2015 7:31 PM, Monica Spence wrote: The Met has an awesome show called "Death Becomes Her" Mourning clothes from 1800-1915or so. One of Queen Victoria's gowns is on display, a

Re: [h-cost] New York garment district

2015-01-15 Thread Monica Spence
The Met has an awesome show called "Death Becomes Her" Mourning clothes from 1800-1915or so. One of Queen Victoria's gowns is on display, and two from Alexandra, Edward's wife. You should not miss it. It is in the costume institute, below the Egyptian Exhibit. I believe the show runs until Febru

Re: [h-cost] Pomona Green: vote now!

2015-01-15 Thread Carol Kocian
I like this one the best. Hope, can you get fabric from this source? -Carol On Jan 15, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Beteena Paradise wrote: > I always envisioned Pomona Green to be more like this color. But that is just > from my own mind's forming and not really grounded in any kind of fact or > anyt

Re: [h-cost] Pomona Green: vote now!

2015-01-15 Thread Terry Walker
Yeah, I'd vote for this one. It looks the most like the drawing. Terry On 2015-01-15 16:42, Beteena Paradise wrote: > I always envisioned Pomona Green to be more like this color. But that is just > from my own mind's forming and not really grounded in any kind of fact or > anything. :)

[h-cost] Pomona green

2015-01-15 Thread Sharon Collier
I think it's difficult to find "Pomona green" because it probably was a color made with arsenic. I saw a picture of a gown in a museum and it was EXACTLY the shade of green I love! But it was dyed with arsenic. I would have died of arsenic poisoning, I'm sure, as I adore that color. Sharon C. _

Re: [h-cost] Pomona Green: vote now!

2015-01-15 Thread Ruth Anne Baumgartner
I'd say of the three, the second is the best, and the most interesting, although none has quite the right undertone. I actually had some synthetic (sorry, a gift!) fabric awhile ago that came REALLY close to your illustration--I used it in combination with a cream-rose-and-green print and a lot

Re: [h-cost] Pomona Green: vote now!

2015-01-15 Thread annbwass
Pomona green continues into the third quarter of the 19th century, as I found in my research of that period. I have no real reason for this opinion, but I always thought of it as more of a yellow-green, like a green apple, so I have to say, none of your swatches. Ann Wass -Origina

Re: [h-cost] Pomona Green: vote now!

2015-01-15 Thread Lavolta Press
My understanding is that it's a yellowish green, making the color in the middle link most accurate. At least on my monitor. Exclusive_silks is the same business as pure_silks on eBay; you might want to look at their listings too. For myself, I don't worry about not being able to find a solid

Re: [h-cost] Pomona Green: vote now!

2015-01-15 Thread Beteena Paradise
I always envisioned Pomona Green to be more like this color. But that is just from my own mind's forming and not really grounded in any kind of fact or anything. :)  http://www.bangkokthaisilk.com/lime-green-100-authentic-silk-fabric/  Teena ___ h-cost

Re: [h-cost] New Topic: Is this a Postmortem Photo

2015-01-15 Thread Sybella
Well, it looks like we have 3 votes for post-mortem and 2 for not. This is so very interesting!! Thank you for this topic, Penny. :) Someone said something like "Ask yourselves, if the question hadn't been asked, would we be seeing so much evidence of death?" No, we wouldn't but that has little t

[h-cost] Pomona Green: vote now!

2015-01-15 Thread Hope Greenberg
The color name "pomona green" appears throughout early 19th century fashion magazines. Fashion plates display women in pomona green gowns, or with pomona green accessories, and descriptions of the color usually refer to leaves or apples. First problem: the images depicted are showing a range

Re: [h-cost] Getting pantone colors with rit dye

2015-01-15 Thread Beteena Paradise
Sorry looks like Yahoo ate the link. Here it is:  https://www.ritstudio.com/color-library/pantone-seasonal-colors/ Teena   From: Beteena Paradise To: Historical Costume Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 3:02 PM Subject: [h-cost] Getting pantone colors with rit dye On a less contentio

[h-cost] Getting pantone colors with rit dye

2015-01-15 Thread Beteena Paradise
On a less contentious topic ;-) I thought this was really cool. The RIT dye website gives the formula for recreating the pantone seasonal colors using their dyes. Pantone Seasonal Colors #RitDye |   | |   | |   |   |   |   |   | | Pantone Seasonal Colors #RitDyePantone Seasonal Colors Change wi

Re: [h-cost] New Topic: Is this a Postmortem Photo

2015-01-15 Thread Beteena Paradise
Actually, I was not reading into it. I was not stating that the children were being yelled at. I was simply giving several possible alternative reasons for their facial expressions that did not include being upset that someone was dead. My point being that you can't assume that the child in the

Re: [h-cost] New Topic: Is this a Postmortem Photo

2015-01-15 Thread Irina (Anne) Moeller
Are there no records of when the photo was taken? Since his date of death is known, maybe that would help answer the question. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Penny Ladnier Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 5:24 AM To:

Re: [h-cost] New Topic: Is this a Postmortem Photo

2015-01-15 Thread Jacqueline Johnson
Of course a lot is being read into it. That's why we have this list is it not? After all, you just read a lot into yourself, the idea of the kids being yelled at...you're right, we can't "know". But we can conjecture. About history. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Beteena Paradise < bete...@mostl

Re: [h-cost] New Topic: Is this a Postmortem Photo

2015-01-15 Thread Beteena Paradise
I think a lot is being read into the photo simply because the question of PM or not was asked. I see this all the time on PM or not photos. Ask yourselves honestly whether you would still be seeing so much evidence of death if Penny had simply posted a picture saying look at this photo of my fam

Re: [h-cost] New Topic: Is this a Postmortem Photo

2015-01-15 Thread Jacqueline Johnson
That was my thing as well. The expression on those kids face is upset. By this time in pictures this entire myth that no one smiled...we've lots of pictures with people smiling. The oldest, poor thing, she's literally holding the weight of their grief and you can see it in her face. On Thu, Jan 15

Re: [h-cost] New Topic: Is this a Postmortem Photo

2015-01-15 Thread Elena House
I'm going to vote post mortem as well, and not just from the appearance of the child in the photo, but also from the story passed down with it--it makes sense to me that the reason your grandmother was so eager to get photos of her next child was because the only one she was able to get of this chi

Re: [h-cost] New Topic: Is this a Postmortem Photo

2015-01-15 Thread Jacqueline Johnson
I rather think this *is* a post mortem. Yes, I realize the kids are standing, but if you've checked other PM pictures, posing them "naturally" was a thing. And from the looks on those kid's faces...the other big one was when a mother had died, you'll see these infant pictures with what appears to b

Re: [h-cost] New Topic: Is this a Postmortem Photo

2015-01-15 Thread Lynn Downward
It's a lovely photo. The children are really cute and I love the clothing. I think I agree with Teena and it's not a post-mortem photo. I think your aunt is leaning in because the photographer told her to lean closer to get that lovely head grouping but her body didn't follow her head before the p

Re: [h-cost] h-costume Digest, Vol 14, Issue 2

2015-01-15 Thread annbwass
Sorry--I didn't get any pics of the Cabildo, and photos of the exhibit weren't allowed. Again, most of the photos these days are shared on Facebook. I only got pics of one of the reenactment battles and my workshop, and I haven't posted anywhere but Facebook. I guess I could put on FLICKR, but

Re: [h-cost] New Topic: Is this a Postmortem Photo

2015-01-15 Thread Beteena Paradise
I disagree. I don't think it is post-mortem. First of all, why would they do it with him standing when the grouping would have been just as pleasant with him sitting. That would be much more likely if he was post mortem. There is no indication that he is not holding his own weight on his legs. T

Re: [h-cost] h-costume Digest, Vol 14, Issue 2

2015-01-15 Thread Debra Brightwell
Ann, do you have photos posted somewhere? I would love to see them. I remember seeing the Cabildo and Jackson Square when I was young, would love to go visit especially during a reenactment like this. Thanks, Debra On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 2:00 PM, "h-costume-requ...@indra.com" wrote:

[h-cost] New York garment district

2015-01-15 Thread Brenda Bell
AtMon, 01 Dec 2014 22:27:11 -0800, humbugfo...@att.net wrote: Also, I've checked the Met and FITM for costume exhibits and there doesn't seem to be anything particularly exciting on their schedules. Can anyone suggest any other museums or exhibitions that would have (historical) costumes o

Re: [h-cost] Anyone here?

2015-01-15 Thread Brenda Bell
I'm here, but mostly haven't had the time to dedicate to costuming, or the money to go to renfaires, recently. I am NOT on Facebook (don't agree with their ToS). I AM on Twitter, tweeting mostly for the diabetes community, and I'm on Pinterest, though I'm not terribly active there. I'm also on

Re: [h-cost] New Topic: Is this a Postmortem Photo

2015-01-15 Thread Maggie Koenig
Little Herbert is still very much alive in this image. The whole thing about having the departed standing in an image being held up by a stand is myth. Those head stands are to help you keep still and would never support full body weight. The lack of "light" of irises is a trick of photography m

Re: [h-cost] anyone here

2015-01-15 Thread annbwass
whatcha all working on presently? Finished a new shirt and pantaloons for my husband to wear in New Orleans. Scratched a couple of projects for me as time ran out. I figured most people had never seen what I already had, anyway. Did finish my shawl overdress and "nankeen" walking habit an

Re: [h-cost] New Orleans

2015-01-15 Thread annbwass
National Park Service will host/allow reenactors, including demonstrations of firing weapons. What they don’t allow are actual battle reenactments. Yes, as I added, too. Reenactments are on private property nearby, if they happen. Gettysburg and Manassas, for example, as well as New Orl

Re: [h-cost] New Orleans

2015-01-15 Thread annbwass
I have been following the NPS reenactments since June for the 150th Siege of the Petersburg. There were reenactors at all the events. I have been to all of their events. They have reenactors who do living history demonstrations, but not battles. The big Gettysburg events, for example

Re: [h-cost] New Topic: Is this a Postmortem Photo

2015-01-15 Thread Penny Ladnier
This photo was produced from my grandma's original cabinet card. My mom had a negative pulled from it in 1960. I have another original cabinet card of this same photo that was given to me by my grand aunt. Mine has been broken in half. I have repaired it and back together with museum archival t

Re: [h-cost] New Topic: Is this a Postmortem Photo

2015-01-15 Thread Sybella
Oh, I think it is indeed a post-mortem photo. The "light" is gone from his eyes. There's also an odd pale spot on the top of his right ear, which may be part of the wired head support. I would presume he's shoe-less because of post-mortem swelling (blood pooling to the lowest point), making it so h