I think there is a picture of the Manchester stays in Corsets and
Crinolines, with a later date. I have a drawing from a student of the
same stays, also dated later. I think that date given was 1670 - court
dress of this time had the tops of the shoulders exposed.
Thank you, Suzi, this is
While searching for something else, I found this corset on the Manchester
Galleries site.
http://www.manchestergalleries.org/costume/object.php?irn=14962QueryPage=index.phpthemeback=2CostumeTheme=costume%20sub-theme
It is dated 1620 to 1640, but to my eye it looks a bit later. Does anyone
on
would very much like to be able to cite
them.
Melusine
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From: Carmen Beaudry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 3:32 PM
Subject: [h-cost] Corset at Manchester Galleries
While searching for something else, I found
I don't know when they became common, but my treadle machine, a 1909 model
that belonged to my great-grandmother the dressmaker, has a buttonhole
attachment that was original to the machine. It holds the fabric in a small
hoop, which then moves from side to side to make a zig-zag stitch, and
O.K. folks, I will be in Washington in just over two weeks (please excuse
a small squee!) and visiting Alden O'Brien at the DAR Museum on the Friday
morning 23rd.
We would like to meet anyone who can make it for dinner/supper/evening
meal at the hotel Harrington that evening, around
I come from a family of sewers. My paternal great-grandmother was a
dressmaker. She literally could copy anything she saw, including most types
of lace. I inherited many of her tools and a ton of handmade lace and lace
samples, which I used on my own wedding dress, and my niece's christening
snip
My first serious attempts came my first year in grad school, when I joined
the SCA. Although my first garment was something I now refer to as the
Ostrogothic prom dress (green taffeta bog-style gown), I got better
fairly quickly, since being a history grad student did make me start
My current projects are:
2 17th cen. shirts, a turkish coat, and a doublet, all for a customer. The
shirts need to be finished by Weds., I'd like to have the rest done by next
week.
A pair of goat leggings out of a microfibre fur that really does look
like goat hair, and a pirate coat.
My biggest daydream is to have someone to do the plain sewing. I love the
designing, the research, the patterning and even the initial cutting and
testing a garment. After I have it figured out, I don't want to do the
sewing. I love the finishing, especially fine details, but I'd love to
Please excuse the forwarded message, but I can't take this commission and I
thought maybe someone here would be interested. Please reply to the original
sender, not me.
Thanks,
Melusine
From: tyiles
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 4:16 AM
Subject: Costume
Mine's named Yasmine, and currently she's wearing the pinned together bodice
of my new 17th cen. high necked bodice. Sprouting out of her neck are two
beanie babies--a pink poodle and a pink and white hamster. Why, you'd have
to ask my youngest daughter, who's home from college.
Melusine
Sort of...professional furriers will tumble the fur in a barrel filled
with
some sort of media such as walnut shells or sawdust, that has been charged
with a cleaning solution. Then the media is vacuumed out of the fur, and
the
fur is steamed and pressed between rollers that line up and fluff
(snip)
I'm trying to figure out how the wrist closure is constructed. I doubt
it is constructed like a modern suit jacket where the vent is lapped
then sewn in place with false buttonholes. Does it have lots of
buttons or just one? Is it laced? hooked? or completely closed the
hand just slips
Ladies Gents,
A quick question, I'm copying the doublet worn by the dashing gent in
Caravaggio's The Fortune Teller now in the Louvre. Both my copy
the original are mustard gold velvet with the chocolate brown racing
stripes and those huge balloon sleeves. At the cuff, which cant be
seen well
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Equestrian costuming other period tack
Spreading the legs apart when they are decently
covered with long skirts is perfectly okay.
Ruth M. Green, in her Wearing of Costume, mentions
that keeping the legs together in long skirts is not
particularly decent nor is it
Occasionally, I think men need to be shown a short video of women's
reactions to their clothes and presentation. Guys, we don't even notice
you in your dark blue tunic with the dark red facing and black trousers.
The video would undoubtely show us gushing Ooo, Terese, look at that guy
in the
Hmm so you think they had a corset with tabs to which the bumroll was
attached and over it the dress? So the dress itself should be of two
parts - the skirt and the bodice. One thing that remains a mystery to me
is this perfect fit of the bodices - I'd say they were at least stiffened
Hi,
I think some of you might have misunderstanded my explanations to this.
I was not reffering to the movie picture costumes, but the cavallier style
fashion for women. With the high waists.
The reason why i want the bumroll to be laced to a bodice is that the
dress waistline is so high
I've got a couple things that work for me. First, everything is in one
room. I also have a smock that I wear to work in. I first started using
the smock just because it kept me from getting thread and lint all over my
clothes and it had a lot of pockets, but it has come to mean work to me.
No, I haven't found it a problem either: after all, the high waist of the
Cavalier style isn't as extreme as that of the Empire line. I'm
long-waisted, but I make my bodices come down to my lower ribs and wear my
bumroll round my waist. It sits on my hipbones and supports the waist of
my
How odd that men's doublets are boned, yet the women's arent. Ref:
Naomi Tarrant's Devel of Costume, p.109-110 photos showing the thick
cardboard used to create the straight area between the chest and
waist. The front edge is further stiffened by a whalebone. The
doublet is 1630s, Natl Museum of
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In either the 3 Musketeers or The 4 Musketeers, (I forget which
one)the
ones with Fay Dunaway and Michael York, there is a scene where Faye is
undressing. I don't know if the undergarments are authentic or not, but
it's
a start.
(sorry, didn't get the name of
Speaking of3 Musketeers is about real people toothe King of France
and the Duke of Buckingham were real people but no one believes Dumas'
story is true. Perhaps because the main characters are not real.
(snip)
Actually, d'Artagnan was a real person, and was a member, eventually
Have you seen the Three Musketeers and the Four Musketeers with
Michael
York, Richard Chamberlain, and Oliver Reed? Talk about costumes!!! They
are
amazing, and they have recently become available on DVD. Although again,
Raquel Welch's costumes were designed differently from all the rest, and
snip
Several people have brought up the question of cold climate with the idea
that drawers would be logical/necessary for warmth. Just as one data
point, I routinely go without underwear when in costume, and I have never
noticed any chill up the skirts; the only parts I've noticed to suffer in
Catching up here.
They only sell wholesale, so unless you have a resale number you won't be
able to use them (recent personal experience). Fortunately, I have a
friend with a resale number and I just pay him the wholesale plus state
sales tax and everything is fine.
Joan Jurancich
[EMAIL
My secret Santa was Catherine Kinsey, who made the most wonderful needlebook
out of handdyed linen, with a mermaid embroidered in silk floss. As if that
wasn't enough, she enclosed a brass pin dating from the late 1600's.
Since I do a LOT of handsewing, I've already put both items to use, and
In going through my fabric stash, I find I have a number of things I've
bought over the years that I no longer consider suitable for medieval
clothing. They're good fabrics, and I am wondering what they might be
useful for (other than modern clothing or home decor). I know almost
nothing
Subject: [h-cost] ironing
I once did the ironing for the priest on my campus (the linens we use at
mass and such). He had washed them but did not put them in the dryer. To
keep them wet he kept them in the ridge and then while you ironed you not
only took out all wrinkles but also dried
Right now mine's topless. On her bottom half she's wearing the red with
yellow fleur de lis skirt that will be the lower half of my new 1635
Cavalier gown for 12th Night. The bodice is cut out, but I'm embroidering
it with gold thread and pearls before I sew it together. She also has a
Subject: [h-cost] grading patterns to fit a very large man
Hi everyone,
I need to make a 1580s doublet for a large man, chest measurement 60
inches. Being small myself, I have difficulty visualising the way very
large pattern pieces work with the changing proportions of a large
chest and
In general, suits look best on guys with less than perfect figures; they
give definition and bulk to the skinny, and conceal potbellies and other
flab-related flaws. But muscular men tend to have problems with wearing
them
unless they're tailored to perfection. My husband is convinced that
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