So far, we have found one pair of split drawers in the vast attic-sized pile,
Really! That's interesting.
I've seen dozens but they are all kinda early. The seam gets sewn up I'd
say (guess really) by the 1860's and by the 1880's you have combos... a
bodice part and the
So far, we have found one pair of split drawers in the vast attic-sized pile...
Really! That's interesting.
I've seen dozens but they are
all kinda early. The seam gets sewn up I'd say (guess really) by the
1860's and by the 1880's you have combos... a bodice part and the
legs part in
Subject: Re: [h-cost] 1845 button closure -- front or back?
So far, we have found one pair of split drawers in the vast attic-sized pile...
Really! That's interesting.
I've seen dozens but they are
all kinda early. The seam gets sewn up I'd say (guess really) by the
1860's
Thank you! Apparently our initial thought was correct, that openings are in
the front. That stain threw me off. Were shifts worn as nightgowns? That
might explain things, if the wearer tended to twist around as she slept.
Were drawers worn as early as 1845 (give or take a few years either
Were drawers worn as early as 1845
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Oh yes. But remember, they were two separate legs sewn to one waistband... the
crotch seam isn't sewn up until later in the century.
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Re: drawers
So far, we have found one pair of split drawers in the vast attic-sized pile,
er... collection. Definitely worn by a child. Were they actually worn by
grown women?
Dede
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Subject: Re: [h-cost] 1845 button closure -- front or back?
Were drawers worn as early as 1845
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Oh yes. But remember, they were two separate legs sewn to one waistband... the
crotch seam isn't sewn up until later
Definitely by women after 1840 or so (vague memory of many costume
books read years ago). Chemise often tucked into split drawers as a
modesty panel.
My grandmother's drawers from 1913 were not split, but were attached
to a top (a combination). When I asked But Grandma, how did you
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I volunteer at our local historical site, which houses (among other things) a
vast collection of 19th century underwear. Today we cleaned and packed a stack
of circa 1845 ladies' shifts, all with a single button closure at the neck.
The shifts were all marked with a stamped (not embroidered)
Dede,
If by the closure side you mean the neck button side of the garment,
it seems reasonable that the marking would be on the same side (the
back and not the front). Back closing garments were not that uncommon,
though many shifts did indeed close in front.
Even if the marking were on
Yes, the shift fronts (or backs) have an opening with button closure at the
neck. The necks are very wide (shoulder-to-shoulder), and there does not
appear to be a difference between front/back, height-wise.
I have teenaged daughters, and let's just say I am familiar with that
particular
What about the armholes? Is there a difference in depth that would
indicate front and back.
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Armholes appear to be the same front/back, also -- same depth. No apparent
difference.
--- On Wed, 8/10/11, Nordtorp-Madson, Michelle A. manordto...@stthomas.edu
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What about the armholes? Is there a difference in depth that would
indicate front and back.
Mid-19th century shifts/chemises are a particular interest of mine. I own a
couple of dozen and have probably examined 100+ in other collections.
Laundry marks can be found on a variety of places: on the neckband or yoke,
on the upper chest, on the inside of the front closure or placket, on the
I forgot to mention that each of the laundry marks, no matter what location,
is on the front of the garment.
Laundry marks can be found on a variety of places: on the neckband or yoke,
on the upper chest, on the inside of the front closure or placket, on the
facing/reinforcement at the armscye,
Even if the marking were on the front, ladies' shifts were never
intended to be viewed by anybody, so who would care where a laundry
mark was placed?
I don't know about this. The chemises I've got are embroidered, and couched,
especially on the narrow yolks and
Oh, that's very true too :) My grandmother monogrammed and
embroidered hers, serving the dual purpose of marking and decoration
at the same time. For a time reference: she was married in 1913.
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