RE: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-24 Thread otsisto
I have seen in paintings where on one side of the gown the seam is not sewn together to expose the underskirt, sometime it appears that a purse is worn under the top skirt and the opening allows access. Mostly on "German" 1400s styles I have seen the side opening. I think that the gores of a differ

RE: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-24 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting otsisto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: One of them was already brought forth and shot down which was the Donor in the birth of Mary fresco. the red and white outfit Though I still think the gold thingies are more of a tassel then a dag. The other one I think I did not save the url because I think

RE: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-23 Thread otsisto
One of them was already brought forth and shot down which was the Donor in the birth of Mary fresco. the red and white outfit Though I still think the gold thingies are more of a tassel then a dag. The other one I think I did not save the url because I think it was a Salome character and I was not

RE: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-22 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Catching up on old email From: "otsisto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *snip* I have seen at least two "Italian" dresses that look as if they have different colored gores from the rest of the dress but not in the style that is on the Chimera site. Can you point me in the direction of those Italian

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-14 Thread Voncile W. Dudley
-- From: "Sylvia Rognstad" To: "Historical Costume" Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages??? > I sew for a living (among other things) and I don't like to rush myself > too much. I certainly don't se

Re: Sewing speeds was Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-14 Thread Voncile W. Dudley
Glad to hear someone else that suffers with RA and sews understands the flare ups and recovery periods. Lady Von michaela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have RA too and this weekend overdid the sewing a bit too much to help out a dance school. I took about 8 200mg Ibuprofen a day as well as up

Re: Sewing speeds was Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread Robin Netherton
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006, michaela wrote: > (my latest costume, Catwoman from Batman Returns only took a couple of > weeks from buying material to final sewing. but again if I was > healthier would have taken much less time.) Of course, if you believe the movie, Michelle Pfeiffer did it all in an eve

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2006-11-13 Thread michaela
<< WOW ! !! I use a regular machine and it takes me a while to finish a beautiful garment of this nature. The gown can be constructed using less expensive but good quality fabric. It would take that long to just lay and cut the pattern (or least for me) but then I have Rheumatoid Arthri

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread Sue Clemenger
ge - From: "Sylvia Rognstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages??? > I sew for a living (among other things) and I don't like

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread Sue Clemenger
Answered privately. --Sue (from Montana) - Original Message - From: "Voncile W. Dudley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages?

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread Sylvia Rognstad
a more of a "cottage industry" scale. --Sue - Original Message - From: "Sylvia Rognstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages?

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread Sue Clemenger
quot;cottage industry" scale. --Sue - Original Message - From: "Sylvia Rognstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages??? &

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread Voncile W. Dudley
Now that sounds interesting to try! Thanks. Lady Von [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/12/2006 7:14:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Aren't gores the ones that start at the waist and godets the ones that start somewhere around the thigh? **

RE: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread Linda Rice
Ok, then, what is a gusset? >From what I've learned over the years and confirmed by looking a the following definitions, "Gore" and "Godet" are pretty much the same, with the godet being specifically that triangular piece which extends upward from the hem to add fullness to a skirt, and a gore be

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread 00217146
> I would say a gore is a trapezoidal piece sewn to other gores to make up a > complete skirt. Whereas a godat is a piece set into a slit made in a larger > piece. In theory, you can slit your gores and insert a godet into them if you > > want. This all irritates me very much. You're the t

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 11/12/2006 7:14:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Aren't gores the ones that start at the waist and godets the ones that start somewhere around the thigh? ** I would say a gore is a trapezoidal piece sewn to other gores to

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread Alexandria Doyle
gt; - Original Message - > From: "Sylvia Rognstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 9:34 PM > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages??? > > >> Real

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread Sylvia Rognstad
get to do my sewing for fun. --Sue in Montana, not Susan in TN ;o) - Original Message - From: "Sylvia Rognstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in s

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread Voncile W. Dudley
nk goodness, and get to do my sewing for fun. --Sue in Montana, not Susan in TN ;o) - Original Message - From: "Sylvia Rognstad" To: "Historical Costume" Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages??? > Really?

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread Voncile W. Dudley
wool flannels just to take the taint away ;o) - Original Message - From: "Elizabeth Walpole" To: "Historical Costume" Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages??? > Well, except that in reality what co

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread Melanie Schuessler
Voncile W. Dudley wrote: > Aren't gores the ones that start at the waist and godets the ones > that start somewhere around the thigh? Anyone know the difference, > if any? Lady Von In my years in the professional costume industry, I have generally heard godet used to refer to a triangular inser

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread Voncile W. Dudley
Thanks. I wondered why I didn't know the meaning of godet because it looked like a gore to me. It was in one of my patterns and confusing. Voncile Adele de Maisieres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Voncile W. Dudley wrote: >Aren't gores the ones that start at the waist and godets the ones t

RE: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread otsisto
I found the dress in thier periods gallery under "The Medieval Age of Chivalry 1100 -1485. I have not found the wording "Medieval inspired" anywhere with this dress. Perhaps they have documentation for the coloured gores. I have seen at least two "Italian" dresses that look as if they have differen

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 03:13 13/11/2006, you wrote: I should go into business. Wonder how many this company sells at those prices. On Nov 12, 2006, at 7:28 PM, Susan B. Farmer wrote: Quoting Sylvia Rognstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: How much is 350 pounds? $700 USD -- approximately This is not an unusual price

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Elizabeth Walpole
- Original Message - From: "Sue Clemenger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages??? Personally, I wouldn't touch it if

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Sue Clemenger
- From: "Sylvia Rognstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages??? > Really? How long do you estimate it would take you to make suc

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Sue Clemenger
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages??? > Well, except that in reality what costs $1 in the USA costs £1 in the UK. So > from the UK seller&#x

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Lauren Walker
About 1/6 of a ton. ;-) sorry, couldn't resist. On Nov 12, 2006, at 9:19 PM, Sylvia Rognstad wrote: How much is 350 pounds? On Nov 12, 2006, at 2:35 PM, Sue Clemenger wrote: Interesting, that you liked it. It made my eyes bleed, and the authenticity-nut part of me back up hissing and spitti

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Sylvia Rognstad
Really? How long do you estimate it would take you to make such a gown? On Nov 12, 2006, at 8:27 PM, Susan B. Farmer wrote: Quoting Sylvia Rognstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I should go into business. Wonder how many this company sells at those prices. Who Knows! But I could sure sell them a

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Elizabeth Walpole
- Original Message - From: "Sylvia Rognstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages??? I should go into business. Wonder how many this c

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Sylvia Rognstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I should go into business. Wonder how many this company sells at those prices. Who Knows! But I could sure sell them a lot cheaper than that! susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionar

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Sylvia Rognstad
I should go into business. Wonder how many this company sells at those prices. On Nov 12, 2006, at 7:28 PM, Susan B. Farmer wrote: Quoting Sylvia Rognstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: How much is 350 pounds? $700 USD -- approximately susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tenne

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- Adele de Maisieres wrote: Voncile W. Dudley wrote: Aren't gores the ones that start at the waist and godets the ones that start somewhere around the thigh? Anyone know the difference, if any? Well, SCA-types tend to call them gores and modern dressmakers tend to call them god

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Theresa Eacker
Using my handy-dandy converter: http://www.xe.net/ucc/ Roughly 669 buckolas!!! (Too bad it can't be phantasy-bucks for phantasy-garb!!) Theresa Eacker How much is 350 pounds? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indr

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Adele de Maisieres
Sylvia Rognstad wrote: How much is 350 pounds? 1000 New Zealand dollars. -- Adele de Maisieres - Habeo metrum - musicamque, hominem meam. Expectat alium quid? -Georgeus Gershwinus - ___ h-

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Sylvia Rognstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: How much is 350 pounds? $700 USD -- approximately susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Sylvia Rognstad
How much is 350 pounds? On Nov 12, 2006, at 2:35 PM, Sue Clemenger wrote: Interesting, that you liked it. It made my eyes bleed, and the authenticity-nut part of me back up hissing and spitting. I was also pretty taken aback by the price (starting at 350 pounds??? Wowser!). I guess our resp

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Sue Clemenger
Interesting, that you liked it. It made my eyes bleed, and the authenticity-nut part of me back up hissing and spitting. I was also pretty taken aback by the price (starting at 350 pounds??? Wowser!). I guess our respective mileages are varying greatly on this one, huh? ;oD --sue in montana -

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Adele de Maisieres
Voncile W. Dudley wrote: Aren't gores the ones that start at the waist and godets the ones that start somewhere around the thigh? Anyone know the difference, if any? Well, SCA-types tend to call them gores and modern dressmakers tend to call them godets and use "gore" to refer to a trapezo

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Voncile W. Dudley
Aren't gores the ones that start at the waist and godets the ones that start somewhere around the thigh? Anyone know the difference, if any? Lady Von Adele de Maisieres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Branwyn Maura wrote: >Gores in various configurations were used to widen skirts from the early

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Zuzana Kraemerova
"Gores in various configurations were used to widen skirts from the > early middle ages on (it's an early step in the evolution of > tailoring), but the use of a contrast gore for stylish effect is not > really documentable for this period (I think there is some use of > this technique in the 1

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Branwyn Maura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Gores in various configurations were used to widen skirts from the early middle ages on (it's an early step in the evolution of tailoring), but the use of a contrast gore for stylish effect is not really documentable for this period (I think the

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Adele de Maisieres
Branwyn Maura wrote: Gores in various configurations were used to widen skirts from the early middle ages on (it's an early step in the evolution of tailoring), but the use of a contrast gore for stylish effect is not really documentable for this period (I think there is some use of this tech