On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Viktor Szakáts harbour...@syenar.hu wrote:
Esc + a/A works, Ctrl+J doesn't, Ctrl+Enter does something
else, but can't see what exactly.
Use M-Enter (that is, ESC ENTER or ALT-ENTER)
Shift+F3 doesn't work on OS X, but F13, which is Print Scrn/SysRq on
my PC
Hi Phil,
my PC keyboard, does. (it's little bit bad that cursor can't go
past last char in line, so there is some flickering around.)
Use Learn Keys in MC menu to teach it better key bindings for your terminal.
BTW in OS X Terminal.app you can also configure the escape sequences
sent by
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Viktor Szakáts harbour...@syenar.hu wrote:
my PC keyboard, does. (it's little bit bad that cursor can't go
past last char in line, so there is some flickering around.)
I think you mean odd Terminal.app problem when in bash or mc when you
press right on an end of
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Phil Krylov p...@newstar.rinet.ru wrote:
Storing settings in .ini (or .xml) files as opposed to
registry. Author Eugene Roshal insisted on registry
(while I insisted that this is a mistake - this was in
1996), so finally some .bat files have born to
-Original Message-
From: Mindaugas Kavaliauskas [mailto:dbto...@dbtopas.lt]
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 6:03 PM
To: Harbour Project Main Developer List.
Subject: Re: [Harbour] Edit Compile Debug in visual cycle
...
- Does MC editor has column block marking? In Far such block can
While Far just works as is.
but just on a single platform ;)
Yes unfortunately, but at least now it has UNICODE
support plus x64 support. Looking at the code, it will
never be ported to other OS though.
I was also trying it with WINE, but the results
are very inconsistent.
Storing
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Horodyski Marek (PZUZ)
m.horody...@pzuzycie.com.pl wrote:
All these possibilities and much more is in NDN (too on Linux
version).
I never liked Turbo Vision.
Have you tried running NDN on linux? It compiles. It runs. But it does
not work. Also its sources
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Phil Krylov p...@newstar.rinet.ru wrote:
Storing settings in .ini (or .xml) files as opposed to
registry. Author Eugene Roshal insisted on registry
(while I insisted that this is a mistake - this was in
1996), so finally some .bat files have born to
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Viktor Szakáts harbour...@syenar.hu wrote:
[ but why PgUp/PgDn doesn't, it escapes me, I've even
thought it the keys, but it scrolls the whole terminal
buffer instead. ]
It''s Terminal.app's feature. Use Shift-PgUp/PgDn
-- Ph.
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Viktor Szakáts harbour...@syenar.hu wrote:
[ but why PgUp/PgDn doesn't, it escapes me, I've even
thought it the keys, but it scrolls the whole terminal
buffer instead. ]
It''s Terminal.app's feature. Use Shift-PgUp/PgDn
Great, it works! Many thanks for all
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Viktor Szakáts harbour...@syenar.hu wrote:
Patch would be difficult to write for me, by now they
use lots of lists and special stuff inside the registry,
so probably some registry-emulated-in-disk-file solution
would be the most transparent way to make this.
Hi Lorenzo,
Many thanks for your post.
Can you publish anything which may help to use
Harbour with Eclipse the way you do it? F.e. to
me the way you use it would be just perfect.
(the only new thing would be using hbmk2 instead
of your custom solution, but I guess, this is
achievable in some
Hello to all!
Some time ago I got to say something about an IDE developed with Qt
with some developers here in Brazil, but nobody showed no interest. I
believe that [hb]Qt can meet this need well, as it has several
features such as ready-syntax highlight, support processes and be
multi platform.
Hi Renato
This is the hbide idea of Pripal that you can follow on thread HBIDE
- An Overview
I think that you and pritpal will made a great product !
A product written in harbour will give idea Much of powerful is this languages
Can you think a way for having visual debug?
setting breakpoints in
Hi,
Lorenzo Fiorini wrote:
IMHO as it is Harbour is only useful for ex Clipper developers that
have a lot of CUI code to maintain.
I've wrote the last CUI in 1999. Later I've used Clipper with Windows
memory management module and I've wrote pure Windows GUI event driven
applications in
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Mindaugas Kavaliauskas
dbto...@dbtopas.lt wrote:
I've wrote the last CUI in 1999. Later I've used Clipper with Windows memory
management module and I've wrote pure Windows GUI event driven applications
in Clipper. Until I've discovered xHarbour in the end of
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Viktor Szakáts harbour...@syenar.hu wrote:
Can you publish anything which may help to use
Harbour with Eclipse the way you do it? F.e. to
me the way you use it would be just perfect.
(the only new thing would be using hbmk2 instead
of your custom solution,
Thanks Lorenzo, I'll give it a shot in some free time.
Brgds,
Viktor
On 2009 Nov 17, at 13:05, Lorenzo Fiorini wrote:
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Viktor Szakáts harbour...@syenar.hu wrote:
Can you publish anything which may help to use
Harbour with Eclipse the way you do it? F.e. to
Hi,
Przemysław Czerpak wrote:
In Norton Commander the command line is part
of NC code not a SHELL so works with completely different conditions.
In MC if you hit CTRL+O then hit any key then once again CTRL+O to return
to MC you will not be able to execute any new command because these any
key
Some more random questions:
- On my OS X system mouse always generates chars on screen, instead of moving
any mouse pointer.
Even in xterm. How can that be fixed?
- When I login using my admin acc in terminal, left/right keys don't work,
instead I see 'A' and 'B' chars.
Also the colors are
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009, Mindaugas Kavaliauskas wrote:
Hi,
In summary it's very simple and clear as long as you know how it works
and also very flexible so it's hard to returned to DOS or Windows and
use Norton Commander or FAR Manager.
Why do you can call it flexible? What are advantages of
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009, Szak�ts Viktor wrote:
Some more random questions:
- On my OS X system mouse always generates chars on screen, instead of moving
any mouse pointer.
Even in xterm. How can that be fixed?
You will have to exactly check what this character means.
Probably your terminal
A few more questions about MC:
- Let's say I want to see .gz file in plain (or hex) format. I do
not want F3 to unpack it. How can I do that?
SHIFT+F3
And here is major source of frustration. On OS X this
will bring up a copy dialog on xterm and do nothing in
Terminal.
- I want to put
- On my OS X system mouse always generates chars on screen, instead of
moving any mouse pointer.
Even in xterm. How can that be fixed?
You will have to exactly check what this character means.
Probably your terminal program uses non standard escap sequence for
mouse events or you have
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009, Szak�ts Viktor wrote:
And here is major source of frustration. On OS X this
will bring up a copy dialog on xterm and do nothing in
Terminal.
It's not MC problem at all so I guess you wanted to say that
MacOSX is frustrating OS for users ;-)
At least it does not
Hi Pritpal,
My proposition is:
/contrib/hbide/
We can discuss about the name (we can even give
it a fancier name later), but IMO it should
not be buried under hbxbp dir structure and it
should start with 'hb'.
Brgds,
Viktor
On 2009 Nov 16, at 03:46, Pritpal Bedi wrote:
Hello Viktor, All
To me:
0) Availability on OS X, Linux and Windows x86 and x64.
1) Very good editor with block editing capability, syntax
highlighting, possibly intellisense. Project-wide
search and replace. Support for all CPs Harbour supports.
( syntax highlighting for: prg, c and cpp )
2)
Why not Eclipse ? I had a half day introductionary course last week
and it seems to be a great tool I saw the Java setting and it was
terrific.. !
0) Availability on OS X, Linux and Windows x86 and x64.
Yes
1) Very good editor with block editing capability, syntax
highlighting,
Yes, good point, probably it would be the wised road and less
effort with most return.
Creating a proper IDE is difficult, and we won't be able to
surpass Eclipse ever with our own resources.
I'd personally endorse such direction much wholeheartedly
than developing a new IDE from ground up.
is a sourceforge project Harbour Development Tool for Eclipse
As of 2008-07-15 00:00:00 GMT, this project is no longer under active
development.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/harbour-ide/
Better the eclipse that nothing
but better a xmate,xdevstudio,xpritpal way that eclipse
because have a low
Question: Does anybody have some experiences on language
integration into Eclipse?
Unfortunately I don't have such experience. I'm going to attend a
couple of other courses in the next weeks about basic java programming
and we are going to use Eclipse. The teacher (a university teacher) is
a
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Viktor Szakáts harbour...@syenar.hu wrote:
Question: Does anybody have some experiences on language
integration into Eclipse?
As you know, I use Eclipse/C-C++ with Harbour in Linux/OSX/Windows and
lately I moved from mercurial to git.
I've tried to use a syntax
whem develop in harbour using xmate by andy wos i have a high productivity
When compile my sample without xmate i start immediately because i not
need create xhp for each project
But when i compile and debug my source is difficult moving from error to editor
With xmate i have a high
On Sun, 15 Nov 2009, Massimo Belgrano wrote:
Hi,
whem develop in harbour using xmate by andy wos i have a high productivity
When compile my sample without xmate i start immediately because i not
need create xhp for each project
But when i compile and debug my source is difficult moving
+1
While I'm comfortable at the command line, I couldn't yet
find an alternative for Far Manager on *nix systems. I need
the two panel modes, integrated cmdline plus the very decent
editor it has. This is the last important bit which ties me
to the Windows platform on a daily basis. Maybe
Czerpak
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Subject: Re: [Harbour] Edit Compile Debug in visual cycle
On Sun, 15 Nov 2009, Massimo Belgrano wrote:
Hi,
whem develop in harbour using xmate by andy wos i have a high productivity
When compile my sample without
i use follow starting for a array with a list similar to Xmate
FUNCTION CREA_XMATE(filechoice)
local a_xmate:={},A
LOCAL X_LOG,X_MATE
AADD(A_XMATE,[Version])
AADD(A_XMATE,Type=xMate)
AADD(A_XMATE,Number=1.15)
AADD(A_XMATE,)
AADD(A_XMATE,[Info])
AADD(A_XMATE,Type=Executable)
Hi,
Viktor Szakáts wrote:
While I'm comfortable at the command line, I couldn't yet
find an alternative for Far Manager on *nix systems.
Midnight commander is equivalent on Linux.
Regards,
Mindaugas
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On 2009 Nov 15, at 18:12, Mindaugas Kavaliauskas wrote:
Hi,
Viktor Szakáts wrote:
While I'm comfortable at the command line, I couldn't yet find an
alternative for Far Manager on *nix systems.
Midnight commander is equivalent on Linux.
It's supposed to be, but in practice it's just
Hi,
Viktor Szakáts wrote:
It's supposed to be, but in practice it's just can't
work nearly that smoothly. F.e. even PgUp/PgDn died
(or maybe it never worked) to navigate, I have to
press Esc twice to exit a View/Edit window, Insert
key doesn't work, the editor is quite limited in
On Sun, 15 Nov 2009, Mindaugas Kavaliauskas wrote:
Hi,
Viktor Szakáts wrote:
It's supposed to be, but in practice it's just can't work nearly
that smoothly. F.e. even PgUp/PgDn died (or maybe it never worked)
to navigate, I have to press Esc twice to exit a View/Edit window,
Insert key
Hi,
Is hard to explain to everybody why is necessary to implement a new modern
environment to develop something. As I see, is not this list goal at all. If
we are reducing our argues to some key combinations, is far away from our
goals. So, please be flexible to go from an old to a new
Sorry, for my first blow-up...
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From: harbour-boun...@harbour-project.org
[mailto:harbour-boun...@harbour-project.org] On Behalf Of Viktor Szakáts
Sent: 2009. november 15. 23:21
To: Harbour Project Main Developer List.
Subject: Re: [Harbour] Edit Compile Debug in visual
Hi Viktor,
As I see now, our common harbour project is viable just in the case of
integration an IDE offering the modern features.
I don't want to list them, as I see they are known by you.
Best regards,
István
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Hi Viktor,
As I see now, our common harbour project is viable just in the case of
integration an IDE offering the modern features.
I don't want to list them, as I see they are known by you.
They are, and while I still think a programming language
like Harbour can be useful and usable in
Hello Viktor, All
Viktor Szakáts wrote:
To me:
0) Availability on OS X, Linux and Windows x86 and x64.
1) Very good editor with block editing capability, syntax
highlighting, possibly intellisense. Project-wide
search and replace. Support for all CPs Harbour supports.
2)
I can suggest the open source way scintilla http://www.scintilla.org/
same licenze exception of harbour
A free source code editing component for Win32 and GTK+
But hope that Przemek or samebody send a mail to Andy Wos,Vailton
Renato to join effort with a ready to use and good solution
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