Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-18 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 06:02 PM 18/02/2013, Christopher Fisk wrote: Thane, Have you considered getting your own domain and running incoming MX on an old server? Spam filtering is a pain in the ass, but if you're worried about space and about security, you can control both by putting your own cheap server with disk

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-18 Thread Christopher Fisk
er... $10/year not per month. On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Christopher Fisk < christopher.f...@thefisks.org> wrote: > Thane, > > Have you considered getting your own domain and running incoming MX on an > old server? Spam filtering is a pain in the ass, but if you're worried > about space a

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-18 Thread Christopher Fisk
Thane, Have you considered getting your own domain and running incoming MX on an old server? Spam filtering is a pain in the ass, but if you're worried about space and about security, you can control both by putting your own cheap server with disk space in play. Frankly, if you setup a linux mac

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-18 Thread Christopher Fisk
gmail supports IMAP and POP3 access types. On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:12 PM, DSinc wrote: > Excuse me. But I thought that 'gmail' = Google. > > Did I miss something here? > Yes, I am still thinking about changing from POP to IMAP. > Duncan > > > On 02/18/2013 09:37, Thane Sherrington wrote: > >>

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-18 Thread DSinc
Excuse me. But I thought that 'gmail' = Google. Did I miss something here? Yes, I am still thinking about changing from POP to IMAP. Duncan On 02/18/2013 09:37, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 10:14 AM 18/02/2013, Christopher Fisk wrote: If you're like you and backup your mail who care's if they p

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-18 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 10:18 AM 18/02/2013, Vincent Winterling wrote: I don't necessarily trust them more than anyone else with information of importance to me. For important stuff, I have saved it locally and in several places. I really don't trust Google with important email. They are processing every word, w

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-18 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 10:15 AM 18/02/2013, Christopher Fisk wrote: Sorry to reply to my own post, but even gmail has the method to backup your mail to pop3 on their FAQ: http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=34030 So I can do POP and IMAP simultaneously with GMail? That might work. T

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-18 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 10:14 AM 18/02/2013, Christopher Fisk wrote: If you're like you and backup your mail who care's if they protect it? How do I backup mail that's stored on Google? T

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-18 Thread Vincent Winterling
-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 8:44 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] IMAP and iPad At 09:33 AM 18/02/2013, Vincent Winterling wrote: >Gmail's base storage for each account is 10gb. That's a lot of store

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-18 Thread Christopher Fisk
Sorry to reply to my own post, but even gmail has the method to backup your mail to pop3 on their FAQ: http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=34030 On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Christopher Fisk < christopher.f...@thefisks.org> wrote: > If you're like you and backup your ma

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-18 Thread Christopher Fisk
If you're like you and backup your mail who care's if they protect it? On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Thane Sherrington < th...@computerconnectionltd.com> wrote: > At 09:33 AM 18/02/2013, Vincent Winterling wrote: > >> Gmail's base storage for each account is 10gb. That's a lot of stored >> em

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-18 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 09:33 AM 18/02/2013, Vincent Winterling wrote: Gmail's base storage for each account is 10gb. That's a lot of stored email. Provided you trust GMail to store and protect your mail for you, sure. But if you're like me and have mail backed up in several locations, then perhaps not. T

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-18 Thread Vincent Winterling
ebruary 16, 2013 12:41 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] IMAP and iPad At 12:29 PM 16/02/2013, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: >What really sucks is when you don't realize how it works and you delete >a bunch of stuff you needthat's how I learned of this "f

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-18 Thread Vincent Winterling
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 11:29 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] IMAP and iPad What really sucks is when you don't realize how it works and you delete a bunch of stuff you needthat's how I learned of this "feature". I don't think I see

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-18 Thread Vincent Winterling
, February 16, 2013 10:49 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] IMAP and iPad I set up a simple filter to copy everything coming into my imap account to a saved folder. Easy to do, but why have to do this? With pop, you don't. What is the advantage of iMap again? On 2/16/2013 10:

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-18 Thread Vincent Winterling
013 7:19 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] IMAP and iPad Christopher, Best answer I've ever read. Thank you. I do not do 'phone/ipad' email, but I get it. Think I will stay POP3 for now; well untilI can not. IMAP reads to me as another layer (ISP) to deal with. Thank you. Duncan

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-16 Thread Christopher Fisk
f, unless I choose to. > Sync'd email is very important to me. > > Regards, > joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... > > "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..." > > > Original Message > > Subject: Re:

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-16 Thread joeuser
tiful line..." > Original Message > Subject: Re: [H] IMAP and iPad > From: Thane Sherrington > Date: Sat, February 16, 2013 11:41 am > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > > > I see the advantage for people who want to have multiple machines > wi

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-16 Thread joeuser
Good point - agreed, BUT still better than POP, IMO. Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..." > Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [H] IMAP and iPad > From: "Anthony Q. Martin&

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-16 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
When using pop, I set my home machine to never delete work emails from the server and my work machine to never delete home emails from the server. Then, I set my work machine to delete all work emails from the server after one week. Then I set my home machine to delete all home emails from the

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-16 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 12:29 PM 16/02/2013, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: What really sucks is when you don't realize how it works and you delete a bunch of stuff you needthat's how I learned of this "feature". I don't think I see the advantage of IMAP. I see the advantage for people who want to have multiple mac

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-16 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
What really sucks is when you don't realize how it works and you delete a bunch of stuff you needthat's how I learned of this "feature". I don't think I see the advantage of IMAP. On 2/16/2013 10:46 AM, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 09:31 AM 16/02/2013, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: What I find

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-16 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 8:31 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] IMAP and iPad What I find to be a pain with imap is I have to copy my emails to another local folder to save them, because if you delete them off the server they are

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-16 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 09:31 AM 16/02/2013, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: What I find to be a pain with imap is I have to copy my emails to another local folder to save them, because if you delete them off the server they are gone from your local machine. I like to save emails on my main home and work PCs. That is t

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-16 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 10:29 PM 15/02/2013, joeu...@chronic.org wrote: IMAP shouldn't be that big of a deal and your ISP should support it, if not... that's pretty sad. IMAP is nice, for many reasons, but it's great to have your email accessible from your PC, someone else's PC, your laptop, your smartphone, etc. I

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-16 Thread Vincent Winterling
rdwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 8:31 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] IMAP and iPad What I find to be a pain with imap is I have to copy my emails to another local folder to save them,

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-16 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
alf Of Thane > Sherrington > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 4:31 PM > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] IMAP and iPad > > At 02:05 PM 15/02/2013, Brian Weeden wrote: > >> Like with any email system, if you don't delete emails they have to >>

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-16 Thread Vincent Winterling
4:31 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] IMAP and iPad At 02:05 PM 15/02/2013, Brian Weeden wrote: >Like with any email system, if you don't delete emails they have to >reside somewhere. But with IMAP, they reside on the server, right, unlike POP where they are

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-15 Thread joeuser
wave of the future... 8P Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..." > -------- Original Message > Subject: Re: [H] IMAP and iPad > From: DSinc > Date: Fri, February 15, 2013 6:18 pm &

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-15 Thread joeuser
. Depends on many factors. I will never go back to POP. Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..." > Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [H] IMAP and iPad > From: Thane Sherrington > Date

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-15 Thread joeuser
beautiful line..." > Original Message ---- > Subject: [H] IMAP and iPad > From: Thane Sherrington > Date: Fri, February 15, 2013 11:43 am > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > > > If I want to share email between a computer an iPad, can I use IMAP > rather than POP?

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-15 Thread DSinc
Christopher, Best answer I've ever read. Thank you. I do not do 'phone/ipad' email, but I get it. Think I will stay POP3 for now; well untilI can not. IMAP reads to me as another layer (ISP) to deal with. Thank you. Duncan On 02/15/2013 18:51, Christopher Fisk wrote: If you use the IMAP protoco

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-15 Thread Christopher Fisk
If you use the IMAP protocol, the email is stored on your ISP's mail server. If you use POP then you download then delete. IMAP can cache stuff locally, but overall all the messages are stored and synced with the server. This allows you to delete messages from IMAP from your ipad and have them d

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-15 Thread DSinc
Christopher, Can you please expand on your 'Correct'? OK, I do not trust anInternet Email provider. OK, I do not trust my local ISP. I do POP3 emailto my local Thunderbird (on this machine). When I delete my old emaillocally, I assumemy email is GONE! Am I being stupid now, and just do not underst

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-15 Thread Christopher Fisk
Correct. Imap uses server space. Also depending on mailbox size, speed might be an issue On Feb 15, 2013 4:31 PM, "Thane Sherrington" < th...@computerconnectionltd.com> wrote: > At 02:05 PM 15/02/2013, Brian Weeden wrote: > > Like with any email system, if you don't delete emails they have to r

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-15 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 02:05 PM 15/02/2013, Brian Weeden wrote: Like with any email system, if you don't delete emails they have to reside somewhere. But with IMAP, they reside on the server, right, unlike POP where they are downloaded to one's computer? T

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-15 Thread Brian Weeden
If you're using one of the more popular email services (Gmail, Yahoo, etc) or an Exchange account, the iPad setup pretty much takes care of that: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4810 Otherwise, you can follow this guide to manually setup either a POP or IMAP account: https://support.exabytes.com/KB

Re: [H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-15 Thread DSinc
Thank you Thane! I've been wondering this also.. :) Duncan On 02/15/2013 12:43, Thane Sherrington wrote: If I want to share email between a computer an iPad, can I use IMAP rather than POP? If I use IMAP, am I right in thinking that the mail will take up space on my provider and ulti

[H] IMAP and iPad

2013-02-15 Thread Thane Sherrington
If I want to share email between a computer an iPad, can I use IMAP rather than POP? If I use IMAP, am I right in thinking that the mail will take up space on my provider and ultimately fill the mailbox there? T