http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20050726.wxmicrosoft0726/BNStory/International/
Looks like Bill will be checking out more than just your CD Keys when you
try to download from Microsoft in the near future.
T
According to MS this is what they collect automatically:
* OEM product key
* PC Manufacturer
* OS version
* PID/SID
* BIOS info (make, version, date)
* BIOS MD5 Checksum
This is what they ask for when you register:
* Home, small business or enterprise user
*
the only thing they do not log is the size of my shoes.
Linux desktop share is increasing every day and with such practices is
expected to increase even more
Ben Ruset wrote:
According to MS this is what they collect automatically:
* OEM product key
* PC Manufacturer
* OS
What, exactly, is the problem with the information they collect?
You do realize that people gather and share far more information on you
when you apply for credit cards and the like? How is this any different?
Koy Fales wrote:
the only thing they do not log is the size of my shoes.
Linux
I'm sure it's just for demographics. They can track how quickly their CD
keys get put into production, and they can also track black-market keys
as well.
I mean, who really cares if Microsoft knows that I use a Toshiba laptop?
Thane Sherrington wrote:
That's not the point, Ben. The point is
At 11:59 AM 26/07/2005, Ben Ruset wrote:
I mean, who really cares if Microsoft knows that I use a Toshiba laptop?
Toshiba might, if MS sold the information to Dell. How about getting a
Dell ad when you download updates on your Toshiba notebook? The inverse
question if more important - who
don't you remember all the BS about the CPU id being
broadcast from intel ?
forget their reasoning, manufacturers had to give you the ability to
disable this feature in the bios
:-}
At 07:45 AM 7/26/2005, Ben Ruset Poked the stick with:
So this information, collected
involuntarily, causes you
Microsoft does not sell ad space on any of the Microsoft.com sites. So I
don't know how I'd see any Dell ads when I update.
And Microsoft has already said that the information would not be
personally identifable. So that would pretty much mean that I couldn't
be targeted with ads based on my
At 12:11 PM 26/07/2005, Ben Ruset wrote:
Microsoft does not sell ad space on any of the Microsoft.com sites. So I
don't know how I'd see any Dell ads when I update.
Right now.
T
Damn, you're paranoid.
Thane Sherrington wrote:
At 12:11 PM 26/07/2005, Ben Ruset wrote:
Microsoft does not sell ad space on any of the Microsoft.com sites. So
I don't know how I'd see any Dell ads when I update.
Right now.
T
From: Koy Fales [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] MS gets nosy
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 16:40:23 +0300
the only thing they do not log is the size of my shoes.
Linux desktop share
At 12:18 PM 26/07/2005, Ben Ruset wrote:
Damn, you're paranoid.
You do know they are rumoured to be buying Claria?
T
http://www.clickz.com/news/article.php/3519521
Thane Sherrington wrote:
At 12:18 PM 26/07/2005, Ben Ruset wrote:
Damn, you're paranoid.
You do know they are rumoured to be buying Claria?
T
At 12:34 PM 26/07/2005, Ben Ruset wrote:
http://www.clickz.com/news/article.php/3519521
Proving my point:
The source says Microsoft will likely consider buying other companies with
behavioral targeting technology, but no one is officially in scope at this
time.
And BTW, if it was a Linux
That's not very American of you. ;)
Essentially.
Ben Ruset wrote:
Not at all. I just have common sense, and don't accuse people of things
before they do them. But of course, it's Microsoft so it's automatically
evil.
--
Cheers,
joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key)
- Original Message -
From: Ben Ruset [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [H] MS gets nosy
So this information, collected involuntarily, causes you to lose sleep?
I am in the Microsoft OEM System
Your COA authenticating issue has nothing to do with this thread...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Original Message - From: Ben Ruset [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [H] MS gets nosy
So
Ben,
What is your opinion of how to answer the PC related questions for those of
us who have built our own PC's from various OEM parts? I suppose I could
say I have Lian-Li/AMD pc's. Seems like they are trying to link
branded pc's to past oem OS sales. Confusing to say the least.
Thanks.
At 03:13 PM 26/07/2005, Ben Ruset wrote:
When you put a whitebox system up on Windows Update, presumably all they
will see would be Award/Phoenix/etc. BIOS and perhaps (I sort of doubt it)
the motherboard manufacturer.
They'd get the manufacturer and model from the BIOS id string (look at the
Ahh, I get what you're asking.
I guess the brand of PC would be Generic or something. Maybe they
have a radio button or something for that. As for penalizing, I don't
know why they would do that. They know that there are whitebox OEMs as
well as retail copies sold.
dsinc wrote:
Ben,
Not
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