Re: [H] laptops ?

2013-11-20 Thread Joshua MacCraw
Ah, OK. I've never thought to do that given what's in store. On Nov 18, 2013 8:41 PM, "FORC5" wrote: > web site > buy online, take back to the store. > I agree with what I see in the store. > fp > > At 08:08 PM 11/18/2013, Joshua MacCraw Poked the stick with: > >> CostCo?!? The truth boils up,

[H] laptops ?

2013-11-18 Thread FORC5
My son's new Toshiba high end laptop fried, literally. Only a couple of weeks old so it goes back, will not even fire up. I suspect the cpu cooling failed but I thought modern cpu's were protected from that sort of thing. was a Toshiba Qosmio X75. Did run hot. i7 4700MQ no harm at this poi

Re: [H] laptops ?

2013-11-18 Thread FORC5
web site buy online, take back to the store. I agree with what I see in the store. fp At 08:08 PM 11/18/2013, Joshua MacCraw Poked the stick with: CostCo?!? The truth boils up, LOL! They NEVER carry a good model of anything intentionally. In fact every time I go in to shop I check & giggle. Alw

Re: [H] laptops ?

2013-11-18 Thread Joshua MacCraw
CostCo?!? The truth boils up, LOL! They NEVER carry a good model of anything intentionally. In fact every time I go in to shop I check & giggle. Always middle of the road or lesser models, odd. On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:10 PM, FORC5 wrote: > thanks to all that replied, took the Toshiba back ( g

[H] laptops ?

2013-11-18 Thread FORC5
My son's new Toshiba high end laptop fried, literally. Only a couple of weeks old so it goes back, will not even fire up. I suspect the cpu cooling failed but I thought modern cpu's were protected from that sort of thing. was a Toshiba Qosmio X75. Did run hot. i7 4700MQ no harm at this poi

Re: [H] laptops ?

2013-11-18 Thread Naushad Zulfiqar
Excellent choice. On Nov 19, 2013 3:11 AM, "FORC5" wrote: > thanks to all that replied, took the Toshiba back ( gotta love Costco) > went with a Alienware 17" > pricey but looks well built. > fp > > At 01:44 PM 11/18/2013, Julian Zottl Poked the stick with: > >> I wouldn't buy a Lenovo... Just lo

Re: [H] laptops ?

2013-11-18 Thread FORC5
thanks to all that replied, took the Toshiba back ( gotta love Costco) went with a Alienware 17" pricey but looks well built. fp At 01:44 PM 11/18/2013, Julian Zottl Poked the stick with: I wouldn't buy a Lenovo... Just look up their security issues. HP/Dell are solid brands. I'm still lugging

Re: [H] laptops ?

2013-11-18 Thread Harry McGregor
Hi, If any HWG regulars want IBM EPP pricing on either IBM certified used or Lenovo, drop a note off list. Being an IBMer, I can extend my employee discount to family and friends, and this group falls in the friends category. -Harry On 11/18/13 3:15 PM, Winterlight wrote: > Agreed, I have a col

Re: [H] laptops ?

2013-11-18 Thread Winterlight
Agreed, I have a collection of Thinkpads. They are real work horses. I have never worn them out, just wanted to move up. They definitely have the best keyboards. At 02:01 PM 11/18/2013, you wrote: I think the think pads are probably the best right now. Not the idea pads. On Nov 19, 2013 12:59

Re: [H] laptops ?

2013-11-18 Thread Naushad Zulfiqar
I think the think pads are probably the best right now. Not the idea pads. On Nov 19, 2013 12:59 AM, "Harry McGregor" wrote: > Hi, > > I have to say I am happy with my 2008/2009 era macbook pro, added an SSD > to it, and it's still going strong with a core2duo (in fact I am typing > on it now). >

Re: [H] laptops ?

2013-11-18 Thread Harry McGregor
Hi, I have to say I am happy with my 2008/2009 era macbook pro, added an SSD to it, and it's still going strong with a core2duo (in fact I am typing on it now). That being said, I don't like the glued in batteries, and other crap they have moved to more recently, and probably won't buy another ma

Re: [H] laptops ?

2013-11-18 Thread Joshua MacCraw
Well engineered? Pfft! Apple stopped being top notch quality when they jumped from Motorola processors & SCSI decades ago. It's the same or worse Taiwan or China manufacturing subcontractors that make everyone else's products. For the amount they charge vs. identical spec "PC" it better last a real

Re: [H] laptops ?

2013-11-18 Thread Naushad Zulfiqar
I have plenty of times. I meant that they still use the same IC's and ancilliary chips as PC's. Sure their PCB is well designed and optimized no doubt.but still. On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:20 AM, Bryan Seitz wrote: > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:18:44AM +0300, Naushad Zulfiqar w

Re: [H] laptops ?

2013-11-18 Thread Bryan Seitz
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:18:44AM +0300, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: > Yes, they do run hot, but somehow they do have longer life spans. I don't > know why, the quality on the inside seems same. I find that with PC mobos > the power regulator circuitry is the first to go. Both had that issue and >

Re: [H] laptops ?

2013-11-18 Thread Naushad Zulfiqar
've seen > (across at > > > least a 10+ year span) run hot. > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > > > [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of FORC5 > > > Sent:

Re: [H] laptops ?

2013-11-18 Thread Bryan Seitz
oun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of FORC5 > > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 12:38 PM > > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > > Subject: [H] laptops ? > > > > My son's new Toshiba high end laptop fried, literally. Only a couple of > > weeks old

Re: [H] laptops ?

2013-11-18 Thread Naushad Zulfiqar
oun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of FORC5 > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 12:38 PM > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > Subject: [H] laptops ? > > My son's new Toshiba high end laptop fried, literally. Only a couple

Re: [H] laptops ?

2013-11-18 Thread Greg Sevart
PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] laptops ? My son's new Toshiba high end laptop fried, literally. Only a couple of weeks old so it goes back, will not even fire up. I suspect the cpu cooling failed but I thought modern cpu's were protected from that sort of thing. was a

Re: [H] laptops ?

2013-11-18 Thread Julian Zottl
I wouldn't buy a Lenovo... Just look up their security issues. HP/Dell are solid brands. I'm still lugging around their "portable workstation" after 5 years and only recently has it started to fall apart. Alienware still makes a good box Sagers are BEASTS. Julian Sent from my iProduct, cause

Re: [H] laptops ?

2013-11-18 Thread Joshua MacCraw
After what I saw of the insides of a Toshiba recently I'd never buy one. All plastic clamshell with no metal endoskeleton, worse it's painted with copper (RF coating?) so that when pieces break off they're conductive. Of course customer has aggression issue & beat on it but still. I've had the imp

[H] laptops ?

2013-11-18 Thread FORC5
My son's new Toshiba high end laptop fried, literally. Only a couple of weeks old so it goes back, will not even fire up. I suspect the cpu cooling failed but I thought modern cpu's were protected from that sort of thing. was a Toshiba Qosmio X75. Did run hot. i7 4700MQ no harm at this poi

Re: [H] Laptops with goofy PCIEX slot

2006-07-03 Thread Chris Reeves
PROTECTED], The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Laptops with goofy PCIEX slot This is the one reason why I have not picked up a sprint data card. My current primary work laptop is a powerbook G4 (no slots), and my next laptop (personal) will either be a Macbook or Macbook Pro (no slot, or express p

Re: [H] Laptops with goofy PCIEX slot

2006-07-03 Thread Harry McGregor
http://www.evdoinfo.com/Events/CTIA_2006/Novatel_USB_870_EVDO_Modem_20060407720/ Harry Ben Ruset wrote: We have the same problem at my office. End user went out and bought an EVDO card from Verizon and can't use it in his work laptop because they have PCI-EX slots, and (as of a

Re: [H] Laptops with goofy PCIEX slot

2006-07-03 Thread Harry McGregor
This is the one reason why I have not picked up a sprint data card. My current primary work laptop is a powerbook G4 (no slots), and my next laptop (personal) will either be a Macbook or Macbook Pro (no slot, or express port only). EVDO Forum lists that Sprint will be coming out with a USB EV

Re: [H] Laptops with goofy PCIEX slot

2006-07-03 Thread Ben Ruset
We have the same problem at my office. End user went out and bought an EVDO card from Verizon and can't use it in his work laptop because they have PCI-EX slots, and (as of a few weeks ago) nobody made PCI-EX EVDO slots. They could always try one of these: http://laughingsquid.com/2006/06/27/

[H] Laptops with goofy PCIEX slot

2006-07-03 Thread Chris Reeves
Ok I have a client who bought some dell laptops. Instead of PCMCIa slots they have these notched pci-ex slots. So no go on regular pcmcia cards Which normally who cares except they have sprint wireless PCMCIA cards they can't use :( We've found some USB to PCMCIA adapters but everyone has them

Re: [H] Laptops not staying in standby or hibernate

2005-05-09 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 07:17 PM 07/05/2005, Neil Davidson wrote: I have two here (personal and work) that just won't sleep. My work one definitely used to, but now when you close the lid it goes to standby, but just wakes up again within a few seconds. The same happens if you manually tell it to standby or hibernate.

Re: [H] Laptops not staying in standby or hibernate

2005-05-09 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Same websites is possible, but nothing out of the ordinary, mainly just sites I visit regularly (tech news sites etc). From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: 09 May 2005 18:57 To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Laptops not stayin

RE: [H] Laptops not staying in standby or hibernate

2005-05-09 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 02:52 PM 09/05/2005, Neil Davidson wrote: Adaware reports only 17 object and they are all cookies. I really have no idea about this. My work laptop which does the same now, has a corporate anti virus (I forget if it is Symantec of MacAfee). so I'm sure it isn't a virus. You run one AV and you

RE: [H] Laptops not staying in standby or hibernate

2005-05-09 Thread Neil Davidson
n I guess others would be seeing it too. Same websites is possible, but nothing out of the ordinary, mainly just sites I visit regularly (tech news sites etc). From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. MartinSent: 09 May 2005 18:57To: The Hardware ListSubje

Re: [H] Laptops not staying in standby or hibernate

2005-05-09 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Are they the same brand/model of laptop?  Did you recently install the same software on both machines?  Been to the same websites? Neil Davidson wrote: Adaware reports only 17 object and they are all cookies. I really have no idea about this. My work laptop which does the same now, h

RE: [H] Laptops not staying in standby or hibernate

2005-05-09 Thread Neil Davidson
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FORC5Sent: 08 May 2005 01:45To: The Hardware ListSubject: RE: [H] Laptops not staying in standby or hibernate scanned for spyware ? sounds like something is waking it up.fp]At 04:45 PM 5/7/2005, Neil Davidson Poked the stick with: When I close the lid : sta

RE: [H] Laptops not staying in standby or hibernate

2005-05-07 Thread FORC5
seconds From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: 08 May 2005 00:35 To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Laptops not staying in standby or hibernate what is it set to do in power management when the led is shut ?  >:-} At 03:17 PM

RE: [H] Laptops not staying in standby or hibernate

2005-05-07 Thread Neil Davidson
00:35 To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Laptops not staying in standby or hibernate what is it set to do in power management when the led is shut ? >:-} At 03:17 PM 5/7/2005, Neil Davidson Poked the stick with: Anyone come across XP laptops not staying in standby or hibernate mo

Re: [H] Laptops not staying in standby or hibernate

2005-05-07 Thread FORC5
what is it set to do in power management when the led is shut ?  >:-} At 03:17 PM 5/7/2005, Neil Davidson Poked the stick with: Anyone come across XP laptops not staying in standby or hibernate modes? I have two here (personal and work) that just won't sleep. My work one definitely used to, but

RE: [H] Laptops not staying in standby or hibernate

2005-05-07 Thread Neil Davidson
58 To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Laptops not staying in standby or hibernate Go into the BIOS setup and make sure that options like "Wake on LAN" are not enabled. Gary VanderMolen - Original Message - > Anyone come across XP laptops not staying in standby or hibern

Re: [H] Laptops not staying in standby or hibernate

2005-05-07 Thread Gary VanderMolen
Go into the BIOS setup and make sure that options like "Wake on LAN" are not enabled. Gary VanderMolen - Original Message - Anyone come across XP laptops not staying in standby or hibernate modes? I have two here (personal and work) that just won't sleep. My work one definitely used to, bu

[H] Laptops not staying in standby or hibernate

2005-05-07 Thread Neil Davidson
Anyone come across XP laptops not staying in standby or hibernate modes? I have two here (personal and work) that just won't sleep. My work one definitely used to, but now when you close the lid it goes to standby, but just wakes up again within a few seconds. The same happens if you manually tell