Re: [H] AMD CPU question

2005-10-05 Thread FORC5
less then 3. fp At 04:11 AM 10/5/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Poked the stick with: >- Original Message - From: "Thane Sherrington (S)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "The Hardware List" >Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 12:25 PM >Subject: RE: [H] AMD CP

Re: [H] AMD CPU question

2005-10-05 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: "Thane Sherrington (S)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Hardware List" Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 12:25 PM Subject: RE: [H] AMD CPU question I agree with Chris. When you decide to be a small computer place, you take on

RE: [H] AMD CPU question

2005-10-01 Thread Chris Reeves
an example.. :) *OK, shameless plug* -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of warpmedia Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 9:16 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] AMD CPU question It's not a requirement, in fact all that's required to work

Re: [H] AMD CPU question

2005-09-30 Thread CW
Sep 2005 15:49:56 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [H] AMD CPU question > aren't most factory Dell's and HP's on board video ? > > it is a inexpensive way to go, MATX and good for 99% of the ppl. > > it's what I have seen anyway. > fp > > At

Re: [H] AMD CPU question

2005-09-30 Thread FORC5
aren't most factory Dell's and HP's on board video ? it is a inexpensive way to go, MATX and good for 99% of the ppl. it's what I have seen anyway. fp At 04:39 AM 9/30/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Poked the stick with: Am I now facing the same situation with video onboard? If 10% refuse to buy from me

Re: [H] AMD CPU question

2005-09-30 Thread Thane Sherrington (S)
At 08:39 AM 30/09/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Windows 98 and Me. I let myself be forced to audio onboard. Am I now facing the same situation with video onboard? If 10% refuse to buy from me because the video is onboard, but I double my sales by lowering the overall price of the computer, I c

Re: [H] AMD CPU question

2005-09-30 Thread warpmedia
It's not a requirement, in fact all that's required to work for Dork Squad is a HS diploma, maybe "some" experience doing PC work, and a clean urine sample. I know because I am unemployed and considering doing GS just so I can pay rent while trying bring my education up enough to look for a re

Re: [H] AMD CPU question

2005-09-30 Thread warpmedia
wrote: - Original Message - From: "Thane Sherrington (S)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Hardware List" Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 12:25 PM Subject: RE: [H] AMD CPU question I agree with Chris. When you decide to be a small computer place, you take on t

Re: [H] AMD CPU question

2005-09-30 Thread joeuser
Have you tried match.com? I hear the matching process is pretty thorough and has good success. People talk for four hours on the phone and stuff. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am seeking one technician who loves to brainstorm on the phone. -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key)

Re: [H] AMD CPU question

2005-09-30 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: "Thane Sherrington (S)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Hardware List" Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 12:25 PM Subject: RE: [H] AMD CPU question I agree with Chris. When you decide to be a small computer place, you take on

RE: [H] AMD CPU question

2005-09-30 Thread Thane Sherrington (S)
At 01:19 AM 30/09/2005, Chris Klein wrote: and your image when you know that it's not your best work. I just don't get it. I have pride. I want to learn, I want to be good at what I do. Hell your customers might as well call the geek squad then...I think even those guys have an A+ certtha

RE: [H] AMD CPU question

2005-09-29 Thread Chris Klein
TECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne Johnson Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 11:03 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: RE: [H] AMD CPU question At 12:25 PM 9/29/2005, Thane Sherrington (S) typed: >When you decide to be a small computer place, you take on the challenge >to be better than any of the big,

Re: [H] AMD CPU question

2005-09-29 Thread warpmedia
Hey lego my alter-Ego! Wayne Johnson wrote: FWIW that was my alter ego talking.

RE: [H] AMD CPU question

2005-09-29 Thread Wayne Johnson
At 12:25 PM 9/29/2005, Thane Sherrington (S) typed: When you decide to be a small computer place, you take on the challenge to be better than any of the big, uncaring stores. Getting the best product for your customers, even if it means a lot of work for you is just part of the job. Why when

RE: [H] AMD CPU question

2005-09-29 Thread Thane Sherrington (S)
At 12:45 PM 29/09/2005, Chris Klein wrote: I've read a few of your other posts and they kind of scare me. As a fellow computer guy, don't you like a challenge? Don't you want to try out new hardware that you've never touched before? There was a point when I had no experience with AMD's, but I

RE: [H] AMD CPU question

2005-09-29 Thread Chris Klein
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 7:26 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] AMD CPU question - Original Message - From: "Greg Sevart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Hardware List" Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [H] AMD CPU question

Re: [H] AMD CPU question

2005-09-29 Thread Thane Sherrington (S)
At 10:51 AM 29/09/2005, joeuser wrote: Don't bother Thane, he's a lost cause. I know, but I'm a sucker for lost causes. :) T

Re: [H] AMD CPU question

2005-09-29 Thread joeuser
Don't bother Thane, he's a lost cause. Thane Sherrington (S) wrote: At 08:25 AM 29/09/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is another reason I build and sell computers with Intel CPU's. Intel has never been as complicated as AMD to me. I have only a G.E.D. and my A+. I would have to go to col

Re: [H] AMD CPU question

2005-09-29 Thread Thane Sherrington (S)
At 08:25 AM 29/09/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is another reason I build and sell computers with Intel CPU's. Intel has never been as complicated as AMD to me. I have only a G.E.D. and my A+. I would have to go to college to learn to build computers with AMD CPU's. Well, you should lear

Re: [H] AMD CPU question

2005-09-29 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: "Greg Sevart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Hardware List" Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [H] AMD CPU question Well, they couldn't clock as high, were finicky on memory, and many board manufacturers

Re: [H] AMD CPU question

2005-09-29 Thread Thane Sherrington (S)
At 01:04 AM 29/09/2005, Greg Sevart wrote: isn't. Sure, they ultimately don't care if an end user can only hit 2.3GHz or 2.7GHz, but overclocking is a very valid metric of design/process headroom. Besides, a chip can still suck if it sucks for end users (even if only a segment of end users). :

Re: [H] AMD CPU question

2005-09-28 Thread Greg Sevart
*laugh* but complaints about overclocking are not a reasonable concern of the chip manufacturer. Well, yes and no. A chip manufacturer loves it when chips can clock high--it means there is plenty of clock scalability at the current process and tape-out design. Poor overclocking means...well, t

RE: [H] AMD CPU question

2005-09-28 Thread Chris Reeves
ECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 8:43 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] AMD CPU question Well, they couldn't clock as high, were finicky on memory, and many board manufacturers had to go through several BIOS revisions before

Re: [H] AMD CPU question

2005-09-28 Thread Greg Sevart
regarding Winchesters on the places I frequent... :) Greg - Original Message - From: "Chris Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'The Hardware List'" Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 8:06 PM Subject: RE: [H] AMD CPU question I think that's a bi

RE: [H] AMD CPU question

2005-09-28 Thread Chris Reeves
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 6:30 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] AMD CPU question Venice, San Diego, Manchester (512KB dual core, 3800+, 4200+, 4600+), and Toledo (1MB dual core, 4400+, 4800+...I have a Toledo) all share the same memory controller, so yes. Winchesters seem

Re: [H] AMD CPU question

2005-09-28 Thread Greg Sevart
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'The Hardware List'" Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 6:23 PM Subject: RE: [H] AMD CPU question No, my 3000 is a Winchester. I think that's the earlier one that had the problems. So if I go for a new dual core, or a venice I should be oka

RE: [H] AMD CPU question

2005-09-28 Thread Chris Klein
er 28, 2005 6:53 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] AMD CPU question Is your 3000+ a Venice? The Venice/San-Diego is the first memory controller that can handle running four sticks of memory at DDR400 speeds. Previous cores could only do DDR333 (or was it 2T?) reliably. If it is a Venice

Re: [H] AMD CPU question

2005-09-28 Thread Greg Sevart
Is your 3000+ a Venice? The Venice/San-Diego is the first memory controller that can handle running four sticks of memory at DDR400 speeds. Previous cores could only do DDR333 (or was it 2T?) reliably. If it is a Venice, you won't have any better luck with a Toledo or Manchester dual core, a