Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Ben Ruset
A few years ago BMW showed off a 5 series that ran off water. It cracked the water into hydrogen within the car itself. Of course that tech won't ever see the light of day. :( >From: 007 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Wed Aug 17 13:26:05 CDT 2005 >To: The Hardware List >Subject: RE: Re: [H] Gas pri

Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Christopher Fisk
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Ben Ruset wrote: A few years ago BMW showed off a 5 series that ran off water. It cracked the water into hydrogen within the car itself. Of course that tech won't ever see the light of day. :( This doesn't make sense. It takes energy to split water into Oxygen and hydr

Re: Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Ben Ruset
If you're cracking hydrogen in your car why would you need to fill up at a station? >From: Thane Sherrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Wed Aug 17 13:56:41 CDT 2005 >To: The Hardware List >Subject: Re: Re: [H] Gas prices >At 03:52 PM 17/08/2005, Gary VanderMolen wrote: > > >>Did someone repeal

Re: Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 04:51 PM 17/08/2005, Ben Ruset wrote: If you're cracking hydrogen in your car why would you need to fill up at a station? Because cracking hydrogen requires more power than you can generate on current solar panels small enough to fit on a car roof. IIRC, there's a company here that sells

Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread jeff.lane
in class Jeff From: "Ben Ruset" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices A few years ago BMW showed off a 5 series that ran off water. It cracked the water into hydrogen within the car itself. Of course that tech won't ever see the light

Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread jeff.lane
Fuel cells are a very good alternative and should be practically available in the near future. Jeff - Original Message - From: "Christopher Fisk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Hardware List" Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 11:39 AM Subject: Re: RE: Re: [H

Re: Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Ben Ruset
The oil companies probably had them killed or paid off. >From: "jeff.lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Wed Aug 17 16:00:17 CDT 2005 >To: The Hardware List >Subject: Re: Re: [H] Gas prices >Like cold fusion? There were a couple of scientists, in Utah, several years >ago that claimed they had ma

RE: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Mark Dodge
You don't live in Washington do you? Mark Dodge MD Computers 602-421-0329 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jeff.lane Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 1:44 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices Hell, w

Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread jeff.lane
Spokane - Original Message - From: "Mark Dodge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'The Hardware List'" Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 2:15 PM Subject: RE: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices You don't live in Washington do you? Mark Dodge MD Com

Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Julian Hale
Hey, no shit... I just live a little north of you. I'm in Elk. Julian At 04:57 PM 8/17/2005, jeff.lane wrote: Spokane - Original Message - From: "Mark Dodge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'The Hardware List'" Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 2:

Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread jeff.lane
My next door neighbor just moved up there. Small world - Original Message - From: "Julian Hale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Hardware List" Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 10:37 PM Subject: Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices Hey, no shit... I just live a little

RE: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Mark Dodge
Crap, I'm moving to Seattle Mark Dodge MD Computers 602-421-0329 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jeff.lane Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 4:57 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices Spokane - Ori

Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread jeff.lane
retty much like everyone else. Way too much!!! Jeff - Original Message - From: "Mark Dodge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'The Hardware List'" Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 11:51 PM Subject: RE: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices Crap, I'm moving to

RE: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread Tony Antoniou
--- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jeff.lane Sent: Thursday, 18 August 2005 6:44 To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices Hell, we can grow ethanol. Read the stars, guys,

Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread j m g
m: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jeff.lane > Sent: Thursday, 18 August 2005 6:44 > To: The Hardware List > Subject: Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices > > Hell, we can grow ethanol. Read the stars, guys, we are getting screwed! The > > oil companies have be

Re: Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Ben Ruset
005 >To: The Hardware List >Subject: Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices >On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Ben Ruset wrote: > >> A few years ago BMW showed off a 5 series that ran off water. It >> cracked the water into hydrogen within the car itself. >> >> Of course that tech won

Re: Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Christopher Fisk
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Ben Ruset wrote: The energy to crack the water was from solar panels mounted on the roof. Apparently they have a similar system now hybridized with a gasoline engine in a 7 series. Again, why? Just use the damn electricity from the solor panels to power the car, none o

Re: Re: Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Ben Ruset
So then if you're already filling your tank, what's the point of cracking more? Seems like it would add needless expense, complexity, and weight to the vehicle. >From: Thane Sherrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Wed Aug 17 15:00:37 CDT 2005 >To: The Hardware List >

Re: Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Ben Ruset
than what was spent in producing it, and has limited Brazil's dependance on foreign oil. >From: "jeff.lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Wed Aug 17 15:43:42 CDT 2005 >To: The Hardware List >Subject: Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices >Hell, we can grow ethanol. Read the

RE: Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-23 Thread gibney
1:57 PM > To: The Hardware List > Subject: Re: Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices > > I am all about Ethanol. Unfortunately in the US the corn farmers are > pushing for it. Making Ethanol from Corn is the most inefficient way of > doing it, and supposedly yeilds less energy than what was s