On Tuesday 18 April 2006 01:34, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
Really? Every other JRE uses the classlibrary from sun.
Of the many open-source runtimes, none uses Sun's class library; almost all
use Classpath. Among non-open source products, J9 has its own libraries, and
I believe this is also
On Tuesday 18 April 2006 04:20, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
Good question though - what does GNU Classpath do?
What GNU Classpath does is the same as what the Sun class libraries do, so
the former no more needs the latter than Apache needs IIS ...
(Sorry to be playing the pedant but I do
Are you saying that Classpath does match strings in exceptions?
-Mark.
On 4/18/06, Chris Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 18 April 2006 04:20, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
Good question though - what does GNU Classpath do?
What GNU Classpath does is the same as what the Sun class
On Tuesday 18 April 2006 09:37, Mark Hindess wrote:
Are you saying that Classpath does match strings in exceptions?
No. Ah, I see: the do in Geir's question stood for what is Classpath's
policy wrt to exception messages matching those of the RI?. Then I don't
speak authoritatively, but I've
I thought my first message in this thread made this clear but obviously not.
I'm not suggesting that code would care if the exception messages are
identical. I was suggesting that it is probably now quite common for
users to type error messages straight in to google. Therefore having
messages
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 07:37:47PM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
Fernando Cassia wrote:
What the
Is there a way to moderate harmont-dev so messages like this can never make
it to the list?.
They only way that would get to the list is if the sender was
subscribed. We don't let
On 4/18/06, Mark Hindess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought my first message in this thread made this clear but obviously not.
I'm not suggesting that code would care if the exception messages are
identical. I was suggesting that it is probably now quite common for
users to type error
Anton Avtamonov wrote:
On 4/18/06, Mark Hindess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought my first message in this thread made this clear but obviously not.
I'm not suggesting that code would care if the exception messages are
identical. I was suggesting that it is probably now quite common for
Stepan,
Just curious what you are fixing here? Changing 8 spaces to tabs?
Why does this matter? Shouldn't tabs (at the beginning of a line)
always be equivalent to 8 spaces?
Incidentally, I think 8 character indentations are excessive. Quite a
few of the ant files use 4 character indentations
On 4/18/06, Mark Hindess wrote:
Stepan,
Just curious what you are fixing here? Changing 8 spaces to tabs?
Why does this matter? Shouldn't tabs (at the beginning of a line)
always be equivalent to 8 spaces?
Mark,
I'd prefer to have all build files follow one style - I don't like mixing
For many people however tabs are equivalent to 8 spaces so if what we
really intend is 4 spaces then perhaps we should make them spaces not
tabs?
Otherwise we will be forever fixing identations because of editor differences.
-Mark.
On 4/18/06, Stepan Mishura [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On
Mark Hindess wrote:
For many people however tabs are equivalent to 8 spaces so if what we
really intend is 4 spaces then perhaps we should make them spaces not
tabs?
I agree that it is good practice to always use spaces instead of tabs.
And AFAIK many editors(say, Eclipse, VI) can set this
Nikolay,
please provide a single patch that resolves the problem
Thanks,
Mikhail
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From: Nikolay Kuznetsov (JIRA) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 5:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [jira] Commented: (HARMONY-350) HARMONY-39 Regular
Mark Hindess wrote:
I thought my first message in this thread made this clear but obviously not.
I'm not suggesting that code would care if the exception messages are
identical. I was suggesting that it is probably now quite common for
users to type error messages straight in to google.
Mark,
The update only adjusts build files to *initial* style (that is tabs-style).
IMHO really doesn't matter how many spaces in one tab if you follow one
style in a file and don't mix tabs with spaces. Also I like
tab-style because I have opportunity to choose a number of spaces that more
On 4/18/06, Stepan Mishura [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark,
The update only adjusts build files to *initial* style (that is tabs-style).
IMHO really doesn't matter how many spaces in one tab if you follow one
style in a file and don't mix tabs with spaces. Also I like
tab-style because I have
Hi Mikhail,
I guess I'll have to open a new report for the unit tests, right?
Etienne
Mikhail Loenko (JIRA) wrote:
[
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-290?page=comments#action_12374906
]
Mikhail Loenko commented on HARMONY-290:
Chris Gray wrote:
On Tuesday 18 April 2006 01:34, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
Really? Every other JRE uses the classlibrary from sun.
Of the many open-source runtimes, none uses Sun's class library;
I'm aware of that - that's why we're here. But as I understand it,
there are no complete
Wait - no tabs! no tabs! PLEASE!
You can have your 1,743 character test case names if you want, but NO
TABS! :)
geir
Mark Hindess wrote:
Stepan,
Just curious what you are fixing here? Changing 8 spaces to tabs?
Why does this matter? Shouldn't tabs (at the beginning of a line)
always be
to contribute them?
Etienne Gagnon wrote:
Hi Mikhail,
I guess I'll have to open a new report for the unit tests, right?
Etienne
Mikhail Loenko (JIRA) wrote:
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-290?page=comments#action_12374906 ]
Mikhail Loenko commented on HARMONY-290:
I did not close the issue, as you asked.
Thanks,
Mikhail
2006/4/18, Etienne Gagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi Mikhail,
I guess I'll have to open a new report for the unit tests, right?
Etienne
Mikhail Loenko (JIRA) wrote:
[
+1
2006/4/18, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Wait - no tabs! no tabs! PLEASE!
You can have your 1,743 character test case names if you want, but NO
TABS! :)
geir
Mark Hindess wrote:
Stepan,
Just curious what you are fixing here? Changing 8 spaces to tabs?
Why does this
Of course.
Etienne
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
to contribute them?
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SableCC: http://www.sablecc.org/
Ah! OK. I should have looked more carefully.
Thanks,
Etienne
Mikhail Loenko wrote:
I did not close the issue, as you asked.
--
Etienne M. Gagnon, Ph.D.http://www.info2.uqam.ca/~egagnon/
SableVM: http://www.sablevm.org/
SableCC:
+1 too.
Mikhail Loenko wrote:
+1
2006/4/18, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Wait - no tabs! no tabs! PLEASE!
You can have your 1,743 character test case names if you want, but NO
TABS! :)
--
Etienne M. Gagnon, Ph.D.http://www.info2.uqam.ca/~egagnon/
SableVM:
I've integrated beans tests. I removed odd-looking
package 'sun.beans'.
Some [excluded] tests fail. Patches are welcome
Is there anything remained from H-88?
Thanks,
Mikhail
2006/4/17, Richard Liang [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Mikhail Loenko wrote:
Hi Richard
Do you know, why these beans tests
Stepan,
Sorry. I didn't mean to blame you. I did realise that you were just
putting it back to the initial style.
Since you asked (well almost ;-) I'm in favour of 4 space indent since
this is quite common in the java code. Unlike Geir I don't mind if
tabs are used but they should always be
Mark Hindess wrote:
Stepan,
Sorry. I didn't mean to blame you. I did realise that you were just
putting it back to the initial style.
Since you asked (well almost ;-) I'm in favour of 4 space indent since
this is quite common in the java code. Unlike Geir I don't mind if
tabs are used but
Google again is running their Summer Of Code
http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html program, and I think it would
be great for the Harmony project to take advantage of it, assuming we
can find willing students.
If you are unfamiliar with the program, the goal is to allow computer
science
Mikhail Loenko wrote:
I've integrated beans tests. I removed odd-looking
package 'sun.beans'.
Some [excluded] tests fail. Patches are welcome
Is there anything remained from H-88?
Hello Mikhail,
I think all code is in SVN. :-)
Thanks,
Mikhail
2006/4/17, Richard Liang [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
Wait - no tabs! no tabs! PLEASE!
You can have your 1,743 character test case names if you want, but NO
TABS! :)
geir
Mark Hindess wrote:
Stepan,
Just curious what you are fixing here? Changing 8 spaces to tabs?
Why does this matter? Shouldn't tabs (at the
Just one more example.
Should users feel comfortable when getting the RI's message
java.lang.ArithmeticException: Division impossible?
Isn't it better for a class library to provide
java.lang.ArithmeticException: integer part of the quotient needs more
than 11 digits
to help our users find the
Richard Liang wrote:
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
Wait - no tabs! no tabs! PLEASE!
+1. But are there any way to release our pain from TABs? :-)
Yes - most editors will convert tabs to spaces. I suppose if we agree
on a no tabs rule, and find files w/ tabs, lets do a conversion, and
What does the RI do? :)
I was thinking more about this - can you imagine the confusion if in a
mixed environment of Sun JRE and Harmony JRE, something went wrong that
affected both, and you started getting two different error messages for
the same problem in your logs? How confusing would
On 4/13/06, Stepan Mishura [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Mark,
HARMONY-331 was commited to the trunk so is there any chance to have
classlib test suite status emails sent to the commits list?
Ok. I've added notifiers to both our linux and windows jobs that are
doing build and test.
Done.
Nikolay,
please provide a single patch that resolves the problem
Thanks,
Mikhail
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Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
Google again is running their Summer Of Code
http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html program, and I think it would
be great for the Harmony project to take advantage of it, assuming we
can find willing students.
...
Lets agree on projects here first.
Great idea..
On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 09:19:30AM -0500, Archie Cobbs wrote:
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
Google again is running their Summer Of Code
http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html program, and I think it would
be great for the Harmony project to take advantage of it, assuming we
can find willing
Excellent! Now we need a project. Have anything you'd like to propose?
What interests you?
geir
Sanket Sharma wrote:
Hey...
I'm a final sem student doing my internship
Get me in.. I wann get involved with harmony!
Awaiting reply,
Sanket
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From:
On 4/18/06, Leo Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 07:37:47PM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
Fernando Cassia wrote:
What the
Is there a way to moderate harmont-dev so messages like this can never
make
it to the list?.
They only way that would get to the
On 4/18/06, Dmitry M. Kononov (JIRA) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
beans: Harmony does not throw NullPointerException in several cases while RI
does.
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Key: HARMONY-373
URL:
Daniel,
I've been trying to do some comparisons, as I promised, and I believe
I'm missing something.
I was testing the interoperability, and when I tried to use an Intel
RMI client against an ITC server, it failed, although it worked
against a Sun server. Changing client and server produces the
On 4/18/06, Mark Hindess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dmitry,
Out of curiosity, how are you discovering these? I've just uploaded an
updated version of my testing tool to HARMONY-325. I think it should
find most of the problems you are reporting - see the results file,
Geir Magnusson Jr geir at pobox.com writes:
Good question though - what does GNU Classpath do?
Throw better exception messages, of course ;)
I don't see a specific rule regarding this in the GNU Classpath
hackers guide [1], but as long as a specific exception message
(format) is not mandated
On 4/18/06, Mark Hindess wrote:
On 4/13/06, Stepan Mishura wrote:
Hi Mark,
HARMONY-331 was commited to the trunk so is there any chance to have
classlib test suite status emails sent to the commits list?
Ok. I've added notifiers to both our linux and windows jobs that are
doing
On 4/18/06, Mark Hindess wrote:
Stepan,
Sorry. I didn't mean to blame you. I did realise that you were just
putting it back to the initial style.
Mark, I also expected that you didn't want to blame me :-) As far as English
is not my native language I used to read messages in a way like my
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