Re: [haskell art] haskell-art] euterpea realtime? or other realtime audio in haskell

2014-05-16 Thread Miguel Negrão
― Attachment links are at the end of this email ― Em 15-05-2014 17:18, Hudak, Paul escreveu: Ok, yes, this could be done easily in Euterpea. Another great feature then... ! :-) best, Miguel Haskell Art now contains the following file

Re: [haskell art] [haskell-art] Retirement of mailman list - last email

2014-05-15 Thread Henning Thielemann
Am 14.05.2014 12:03, schrieb alex: Dear all, This is the last email to the haskell-art mailing list, as hosted by mailman. To continue receiving messages to haskell-art, make sure you are subscribed to the new groupserver forum here: http://lurk.org/groups/haskell-art/ It seems the new

Re: [haskell art] [haskell-art] euterpea realtime? or other realtime audio in haskell

2014-05-15 Thread Henning Thielemann
it seems that my comment got lost ... Am 14.05.2014 00:44, schrieb Ben Burdette: I'm doing a project where incoming values from sensors are to be turned into music. currently I have a haskell program that scans the sensors and generates OSC messages as a result. So far so good. How about

Re: [haskell art] [haskell-art] Retirement of mailman list - last email

2014-05-15 Thread Francesco Ariis
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:53:31AM +0200, Henning Thielemann wrote: It seems the new web-site requires javascript in order to see the archive of posts. That's a real regression compared to the former setup. :-( I share your contempt for JavaScript (big smile)! If you want to follow new

Re: [haskell art] [haskell-art] Retirement of mailman list - last email

2014-05-15 Thread Henning Thielemann
Am 15.05.2014 12:27, schrieb Francesco Ariis: If you want to follow new topics and posts sans js, you *can* do it via the built-in RSS feeds [1] [2] (or alternatively using Gmane [3], which comes with two different interfaces) That's good news. [3]

Re: [haskell art] haskell-art] euterpea realtime? or other realtime audio in haskell

2014-05-15 Thread Hudak, Paul
-Original Message- From: haskell-...@group.lurk.org [mailto:haskell-...@group.lurk.org] On Behalf Of Miguel Negrão Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 5:41 AM To: haskell-...@group.lurk.org Subject: Re: [haskell art] haskell-art] euterpea realtime? or other realtime audio in haskell

Re: [haskell art] haskell-art] euterpea realtime? or other realtime audio in haskell

2014-05-15 Thread Miguel Negrão
― Attachment links are at the end of this email ― Em 15-05-2014 16:02, Hudak, Paul escreveu: Euterpea has what we call clock polymorphism, with which signal functions can be defined that are polymorphic in the sampling rate. And there is a simple mechanism to coerce from one rate to another.

Re: [haskell art] haskell-art] euterpea realtime? or other realtime audio in haskell

2014-05-15 Thread Hudak, Paul
Ok, yes, this could be done easily in Euterpea. -Original Message- From: haskell-...@group.lurk.org [mailto:haskell-...@group.lurk.org] On Behalf Of Miguel Negrão Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 12:11 PM To: haskell-...@group.lurk.org Subject: Re: [haskell art] haskell-art] euterpea

Re: [haskell art] Haskell art in the media

2014-04-18 Thread Hudak, Paul
10:12 AM To: haskell-...@group.lurk.org Subject: Re: [haskell art] Haskell art in the media Greetings lurkers. Up-front: apologies for hijacking the thread :) Without having spent time looking at the source code for tidal or other Haskell-based music-making tools (excuse my ignorance already

Re: [haskell art] Haskell art in the media

2014-04-14 Thread Henning Thielemann
Am 14.04.2014 02:49, schrieb Evan Laforge: I know the question isn't for me, but I do the same kind of stuff and the gc isn't a problem for me because latency is not a problem. I think only time latency is relevant is when you want external input to immediately have a reaction. So basically

Re: [haskell art] Haskell art in the media

2014-04-14 Thread Tom Murphy
[response On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 1:41 AM, alex a...@slab.org wrote: Yes, live coders are quite distant from the sound in this respect, so latency is less of a concern. It is often a concern though, generally with music interfaces you do want to hear and then manipulate a sound directly,

Re: [haskell art] Haskell art in the media

2014-04-13 Thread alex
On 13 April 2014 03:35, Hudak, Paul paul.hu...@yale.edu wrote: This is very cool! Although I see some Haskell code in the video, at 1:50 in the first link there is an imperative language being used as well -- looks like C. So, are the two integrated somehow, or are these two different

Re: [haskell art] Haskell art in the media

2014-04-13 Thread Miguel Negrão
― Attachment links are at the end of this email ― Hi Em 12-04-2014 20:42, alex escreveu: To answer Miguel's question, in Tidal I currently have it set to 0.04 seconds. This is to cope with network delay, and the audio buffer size in the jack audio daemon. So in practice, the haskell gc is

[haskell art] Haskell art in the media

2014-04-12 Thread alex
Hi all, I thought some of you might be entertained to see Haskell making music in Amsterdam (in Dutch and some English): http://motherboard.vice.com/nl/read/algorave-coden-in-de-club and in London (in French): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_NQKPH91kM There's a few more recent interviews

Re: [haskell art] Haskell art in the media

2014-04-12 Thread Miguel Negrão
― Attachment links are at the end of this email ― Em 12-04-2014 15:36, alex escreveu: Hey Karsten, I didn't put a lot of thought into diving into Haskell either, I think this is the best way :) Personally I don't do realtime scheduling in Haskell, I send OSC messages, which include

Re: [haskell art] Haskell art in the media

2014-04-12 Thread alex
On 12 April 2014 20:27, Karsten Gebbert k...@ioctl.it wrote: I remember now that you and others mention latency, that in SuperCollider one can set a server latency argument, which, when set to 0, lead to the kind of jitter I was experiencing. Yes I think in supercollider the default latency is

Re: [haskell art] Haskell art in the media

2014-04-12 Thread Tom Murphy
Cool! Thanks for sharing these videos -- inspiring stuff. There's a weird repeat of the entire Alexandra Cardnas section in the middle of the French video -- was that in the original broadcast? Tom On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 12:02 AM, alex a...@slab.org wrote: Hi all, I thought some of you

Re: [haskell art] Haskell art in the media

2014-04-12 Thread Julian Rohrhuber
On 12.04.2014, at 21:42, alex a...@slab.org wrote: On 12 April 2014 20:27, Karsten Gebbert k...@ioctl.it wrote: I remember now that you and others mention latency, that in SuperCollider one can set a server latency argument, which, when set to 0, lead to the kind of jitter I was

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Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-03-11 Thread Henning Thielemann
Evan Laforge schrieb: This sounds like something I've noticed, and if it's the same thing, I agree. But I disagree that you need to separate orchestra and score to get it. Namely that notes are described hierarchically (e.g. phrase1 `then` phrase2 :=: part2 or whatever), but that many

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-03-11 Thread Stephen Tetley
On 11 March 2011 08:58, Henning Thielemann lemm...@henning-thielemann.de wrote: [SNIP] I would have thought that the hierarchical structure is also better for music notation, but the actual implementations show, that it is not. Haskore's structure unfortunately maps badly to LilyPond or ABC in

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-03-10 Thread Evan Laforge
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 5:58 AM, Hudak, Paul paul.hu...@yale.edu wrote: FWIW, I like the score / orchestra distinction.   It’s not going to solve all problems, but it’s pretty convenient most of the time.  In Euterpea we actually extend the idea in a couple of ways.  First, you can label any

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-25 Thread Hudak, Paul
Of Anton Kholomiov Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 5:30 AM To: haskell-art@lurk.org Subject: Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art? I've thought about it too. When you compose notes and then apply instruments you get sound and not notes of sound or event it is notes of sound it is nice to be able to convert

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-25 Thread Morgan Sutherland
that would load it and communicate with it. Steve ___ haskell-art mailing list haskell-art@lurk.org http://lists.lurk.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-art ___ haskell-art mailing list haskell-art@lurk.org

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-23 Thread Stephen Tetley
On 22 February 2011 23:41, Evan Laforge qdun...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not super knowledgable about supercollider, but isn't it basically a synthesizer which you configure by sending OSC over, and can then play it by sending more OSC? SuperCollider classically was a real-time tuned

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-23 Thread Henning Thielemann
Stephen Tetley schrieb: On 22 February 2011 23:41, Evan Laforge qdun...@gmail.com wrote: Can you write 'inst2 pitch = reverse (inst1 pitch)'? Is 'inst2 pitch = reverse (inst1 pitch)' the backwards instrument? My first thought would be this is hard to write in any continuous language even

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-23 Thread John Lato
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Stephen Tetley stephen.tet...@gmail.comwrote: On 22 February 2011 23:41, Evan Laforge qdun...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not super knowledgable about supercollider, but isn't it basically a synthesizer which you configure by sending OSC over, and can then play

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-23 Thread Stefan Kersten
On 2/23/11 1:07 PM, John Lato wrote: SuperCollider classically was a real-time tuned Smalltalk-like language for sound synthesis. The language allows you to do pretty much any symbolic processing you would expect - of course some things will be easy whereas others will be hard.

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-22 Thread Evan Laforge
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 3:45 AM, Stephen Tetley stephen.tet...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 February 2011 07:00, Evan Laforge qdun...@gmail.com wrote: To my eyes the problem is in the score vs. orchestra division that starts with music-n languages like csound and goes all the way through midi

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-22 Thread Evan Laforge
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Henning Thielemann lemm...@henning-thielemann.de wrote: On Thu, 17 Feb 2011, Evan Laforge wrote: However, I've basically given up on that for the moment in favor of just generating MIDI.  Just composition is already really complicated without throwing signal

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-22 Thread Henning Thielemann
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011, Evan Laforge wrote: I had written some simple conversion from a text presentation of a OctaMED module to Haskore. Maybe you find it useful:  http://code.haskell.org/haskore/revised/core/src/Haskore/Interface/MED/Text.hs Indeed, I very well might. I have a bunch of music

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-20 Thread Anton Kholomiov
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Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-20 Thread Stephen Tetley
On 18 February 2011 07:00, Evan Laforge qdun...@gmail.com wrote: To my eyes the problem is in the score vs. orchestra division that starts with music-n languages like csound and goes all the way through midi sequencers.  Nyquist is the only language I know of that tried to tackle that. I

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-20 Thread Bernardo Barros
2011/2/20 Stephen Tetley stephen.tet...@gmail.com: On 18 February 2011 07:00, Evan Laforge qdun...@gmail.com wrote: To my eyes the problem is in the score vs. orchestra division that starts with music-n languages like csound and goes all the way through midi sequencers.  Nyquist is the only

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-20 Thread Henning Thielemann
On Thu, 17 Feb 2011, Evan Laforge wrote: However, I've basically given up on that for the moment in favor of just generating MIDI. Just composition is already really complicated without throwing signal processing into the mix. So I wish you best of luck on the signal side, maybe when things

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-17 Thread Evan Laforge
Hopefully that will help to better explain how I produced those mp3s. One of the things I hope to do in the near future is to clean up and better document the source code for a couple of them so that they can serve as tutorials. I for one would be quite curious to see those. It's the first

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-17 Thread Evan Laforge
Then I tried Modula-3 on Linux. When I later got to know Haskell, I found that I had reinvented lazy evaluation for Assampler. Consequently I moved to the original. I wanted to integrate music composition and signal processing. I wanted programming features for music arrangement, since the

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-16 Thread donya . quick
Hello everyone! I’m new to this mailing list, so I thought I would do a short introduction and also answer one of the questions that I saw about the Euterpea-related compositions. My name is Donya Quick and I’m third year PhD student at Yale. My advisor is Paul Hudak, who got me hooked on

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-15 Thread Henning Thielemann
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011, Stephen Sinclair wrote: Anyways, due to the field I work in, one subject area I find myself obsessed with is the seeming conflicts of interest between functional programming and real-time guarantees (for writing DSP programs, etc). The former allows more powerful ways to

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-15 Thread Henning Thielemann
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011, Hudak, Paul wrote: First, my group has designed a new computer music library that I call Euterpea (named after Euterpe, the Greek muse of music).  Euterpea has all of the original functionality of Haskore, plus an arrow-based signal processing language for doing audio

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-14 Thread Iavor Diatchki
Greetings! I am Iavor Diatchki and I've been a Haskell programmer for a while now. I love music and I play as a hobby but, somehow, I've never done much music programming. Thanks to everyone who took the time to post a reply, it was very interesting to find out about the various projects that

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-13 Thread Hudak, Paul
Hi everybody. Nice idea for people to introduce themselves on this list! It's been great to hear about all the interesting work. Below is my story :-) My name is Paul Hudak and I'm a Professor in the Department of Computer Science at Yale. I was heavily involved in the design of Haskell

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-07 Thread Sönke Hahn
Stefan Kersten wrote: i think that different (natural or computer) languages allow us to think about interesting problems differently. although i've had some previous exposure to functional programming (opal, anyone?), I was taught some OPAL, but I guess, you already knew that. Sönke

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-07 Thread Sönke Hahn
Hi! I am Sönke Hahn. Some years ago, I became interested in audio programming. During my studies my interest shifted towards language design and functional languages. I joined this list, because I am interested in high- level audio libraries in Haskell. Right now, I am working on a game called

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-07 Thread Henning Thielemann
On Wed, 2 Feb 2011, alex wrote: So, why not hit reply and introduce yourself (even if you've posted already), and reveal your interest in haskell and/or art, whatever that may be. I'll do it too, but someone else go first :) Ok, where to start - at the very beginning? I first tried to make

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-06 Thread Stephen Tetley
Hello all I'm the author of Wumpus (vector graphics) and Neume (music score setting). Wumpus is on Hackage. Wumpus-Core is the stable part - it is a library for generating PostScript and SVG from a fairly simple graphics model that's somewhat like PostScript but is essentially stateless. Wumpus

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-05 Thread Stephen Lavelle
mailing list haskell-art@lurk.org http://lists.lurk.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-art ___ haskell-art mailing list haskell-art@lurk.org http://lists.lurk.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-art

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-05 Thread Evan Laforge
For 'Scale' i've come to this There are two types 'Tone' and `Scale` 'Tone' is 2d integer + bend values as double. And Scale is base tone frequency (that corresponds to tone == (0, 0)), length of 'octave' interval and vector of multipliers for each tone in one cycle. Interesting, I didn't

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-04 Thread John Lato
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 2:14 AM, Evan Laforge qdun...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 5:27 PM, John Lato jwl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Evan Laforge qdun...@gmail.com wrote: I should have mentioned Pianoteq back there as an exception to no interesting

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-04 Thread Stephen Sinclair
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 6:11 PM, alex a...@slab.org wrote: So, why not hit reply and introduce yourself (even if you've posted already), and reveal your interest in haskell and/or art, whatever that may be.  I'll do it too, but someone else go first :) My name is Steve and I'm a doctoral

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-04 Thread Sebastian Fischer
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 8:11 AM, alex a...@slab.org wrote: I'd really like to know why on earth people would subscribe to a mailing list called 'haskell art'. I am interested in the principles of composition that underly pieces of art in general and Haskell programs in particular. Symphonies

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-03 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
alex wrote: Hi all, This list has been around for a good few years now, and has 122 subscribers. There have been some interesting threads, mainly about music libraries, but not a great deal of discussion. I'm the main author of two commonly used FOSS audio related libraries:

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-03 Thread Stefan Kersten
hi all, On 03.02.11 00:11, alex wrote: So, why not hit reply and introduce yourself (even if you've posted already), and reveal your interest in haskell and/or art, whatever that may be. I'll do it too, but someone else go first :) i stumbled over haskell about three years ago, when i was

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-03 Thread John Lato
Hello, I'm John Lato, a musician/technologist currently based outside of Dublin. I'm the author of a few audio-related Haskell packages: hCsound: http://hackage.haskell.org/package/hCsound sndfile-enumerators: http://hackage.haskell.org/package/sndfile-enumerators although I'm probably

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-03 Thread Brent Yorgey
On Wed, Feb 02, 2011 at 11:11:08PM +, alex wrote: Hi all, So, why not hit reply and introduce yourself (even if you've posted already), and reveal your interest in haskell and/or art, whatever that may be. I'll do it too, but someone else go first :) Great idea Alex, thanks for

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-03 Thread Daniel van den Eijkel
), and reveal your interest in haskell and/or art, whatever that may be. I'll do it too, but someone else go first :) Cheers, alex ___ haskell-art mailing list haskell-art@lurk.org http://lists.lurk.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-art

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-03 Thread Duncan Mortimer
Hi All, I'm Duncan Mortimer, an Aussie currently living in London --- among other things, I'm a hobbyist-coder-and-musician. While I've never seriously looked into it, I've always been intrigued by the idea of algorithmic composition, mathematical structures in music, and fantasize occasionally

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-03 Thread Alex Ford
first :) Cheers, alex ___ haskell-art mailing list haskell-art@lurk.org http://lists.lurk.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-art ___ haskell-art mailing list haskell-art@lurk.org http://lists.lurk.org/mailman

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-03 Thread alex
Good to see all the great response! On 3 February 2011 19:33, Henning Thielemann lemm...@henning-thielemann.de wrote: Unfortunately archiving stopped in March 2010. Thus this thread will not be archived, too. :-( I seem to have fixed the archives:

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-03 Thread John Lato
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Evan Laforge qdun...@gmail.com wrote: I'm at last in a state where I can start using Haskell for real work, although most of it isn't ready for release yet. Recently I've been concentrating on physical modeling, an audio EDSL[0], and a csound-ish front-end

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-03 Thread John Lato
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Anton Kholomiov anton.kholom...@gmail.comwrote: sorry i've started new thread, it goes here Hi I'm making dsl's for music/sound composition. Hope some day i will stop making dsls and do some music with them. But haskell makes it difficult. With haskell It's

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-03 Thread Henning Thielemann
John Lato schrieb: On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Anton Kholomiov anton.kholom...@gmail.com mailto:anton.kholom...@gmail.com wrote: sorry i've started new thread, it goes here Hi I'm making dsl's for music/sound composition. Hope some day i will stop making dsls and do

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-03 Thread Evan Laforge
http://hackage.haskell.org/package/csound-expression and library for music composition. It will contain combinators for score composition and microsound music support (it tries to be small, general and not so western-music-tradition oriented). It makes no sound yet, but defines how to

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-03 Thread Henning Thielemann
Balazs Komuves schrieb: I sometimes make realtime, procedural music videos (it's an old hobby, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demoscene). In the last few years, I have been doing this in Haskell, simply because I enjoy Haskell much more than other languages. However, these programs are

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-03 Thread John Lato
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Evan Laforge qdun...@gmail.com wrote: I should have mentioned Pianoteq back there as an exception to no interesting physical models since the '90s thing. But it's pretty specialized, and since it's proprietary who knows what they're doing in there anyway. I

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-03 Thread Evan Laforge
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 5:27 PM, John Lato jwl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Evan Laforge qdun...@gmail.com wrote: I should have mentioned Pianoteq back there as an exception to no interesting physical models since the '90s thing.  But it's pretty specialized, and since

Re: [haskell-art] Haskell art?

2011-02-02 Thread Raphael Santos
Hello, I really can't comment on this list because I just signed up today - which also makes this thread very useful for me. I'm Raphael Santos, a brazilian music composition student who is also interested in art in general - either more contemporary generative, algorithmic, interactive,