Re: [offlist] Re: vim, and the configuration thereof

Hi Juerd, * Juerd Waalboer [2007-05-18 18:15]: > Can I get a copy of your vimrc? :) sure, attached. I’ve been wanting to HTMLify it and update the copy at , but as with so many things, I’ve not gotten around to it yet. Regards, -- Aristotle Paga

Re: Old time hatefulness (much worse than new-fangled hatefulness).

If you were really lucky (and it wasn't too close to end of semester), you could get three runs of your job in the four or five hours of lab time available. Lucky beggar. My first job was programming in COBOL, at a location where we had no card punches. We got two runs a day. We *wrote* editin

Old time hatefulness (much worse than new-fangled hatefulness).

Somewhere on Shadow Earth, at Fri, May 18, 2007 at 01:33:17PM -0500, Peter da Silva wrote: > Fortunately there are no hills worth the name in Houston. And it was an > RL01 disk pack and 8" floppies that contained my port of "ed" to > RSX-11... not punch cards. Punch cards? I still have a few jo

Re: Error message too stupid

On 18/05/07, Peter da Silva wrote: "This is Worker speaking. Read Me Doctor Memory." Hey man, you broke the President! -- Earle Martin http://downlode.org/ http://purl.org/net/earlemartin/

Re: Error message too stupid

On May 18, 2007, at 12:18 PM, A. Pagaltzis wrote: Where's the part where you carry punchcard barefoot through the snow uphill both ways? That would have been 1982 (if I recall correctly). I'd just moved to Houston. I came there from Sydney, where it was summer, into what the news was calling

Re: Error message too stupid

* Peter da Silva [2007-05-18 19:05]: > Then when I started working at Hydril and found I was sharing a > machine with 4K of RAM and 12K of ROM with two other people... > at least Polyforth on the 1802 was direct-threaded and had a > fixed NFA and could run headerless. That saved a good 5-10 > byte

Re: vim, and the configuration thereof

Vim is Useful Out Of The Box. What a concept. The only options I use in nvi are ":se ai", and I don't *need* that. I used to go with "sm" as well, but I seem to have quit expecting it. I haven't found the options that make "vim" non-hateful for me, so after installing nvi on panther I delete

Re: vim, and the configuration thereof

On May 18, 2007, at 9:59 AM, Sean O'Rourke wrote: Of course, the best is ed The competition to "ed" was TECO and SOS, and not even the real TECO, and there was NO WAY you could run any kind of real Emacs on a PDP-11 (what did RMS care? If you don't have 36 bits you're not playing with a full

Re: Error message too stupid

Allow me to express my gratitude by not enumerating the memory limitations and other resource constraints of the various devices I had the dubious pleasure to program (1K FOR THE ARGUMENTS? THAT'S ONE SHITLOAD OF WASTED MEMORY!). No shit. When they upgraded Cory to V7 my file browser on the PD

Re: vim, and the configuration thereof

Sean O'Rourke wrote: I like Emacs's solution to this (on a terminal): the user will eventually type backspace, which pops up a huge, dense, and ultimately useless meta-help screen. What are you talking about? XEmacs has an excellent online GUI help system! You go to a menu, and up pops an ex

[offlist] Re: vim, and the configuration thereof

Hi Aristotle, Can I get a copy of your vimrc? :) Thanks, -- korajn salutojn, juerd waalboer: perl hacker convolution: ict solutions and consultancy

Re: vim, and the configuration thereof

* Yossi Kreinin [2007-05-18 16:50]: > A. Pagaltzis wrote: > >A virginal vim is almost as good as my customised one as far > >as I'm concerned: a quick `:set nocp ai nu acd | syn on` and > >I'm off to the races. Those are all of the customisations that > >affect me constantly, the rest of my vimrc

Re: vim, and the configuration thereof

Yossi Kreinin writes: > Now comes the critical moment. The newbie is very annoyed, since it's > probably the first encounter with a program that refuses to > terminate. I like Emacs's solution to this (on a terminal): the user will eventually type backspace, which pops up a huge, dense, and ultim

Re: vim, and the configuration thereof

A. Pagaltzis wrote: A virginal vim is almost as good as my customised one as far as I'm concerned: a quick `:set nocp ai nu acd | syn on` and I'm off to the races. Those are all of the customisations that affect me constantly, the rest of my vimrc is gravy. I do like to delete characters with

Re: vim, and the configuration thereof

* Yossi Kreinin [2007-05-18 15:50]: > few humans can survive the dysfunctional default settings of a > highly extensible program). A virginal vim is almost as good as my customised one as far as I'm concerned: a quick `:set nocp ai nu acd | syn on` and I'm off to the races. Those are all of the c

Re: vim, and the configuration thereof

Peter da Silva wrote: (and before the Emacs people get all excited... kids today, don't remember Gosling versus Lucid vs RMSmacs) Well, as long as both emacs and xemacs are installed everywhere, it's sort of unforgettable. Especially as long as their configuration files are incompatible,

Re: Error message too stupid

Peter da Silva wrote: * I published this idea on Usenet 20 years ago, and there's prior art in Intel's "ISIS" operating system... which was incidentally one of the precursors of CP/M and MS-DOS, so it's pretty patent-resistant. Now that pretty much slaughters my bright idea, doesn't it? To

Re: vim, and the configuration thereof

Peter da Silva wrote: > nvi kicks vim's pasty white butt. :) > > (and before the Emacs people get all excited... kids today, don't > remember Gosling versus Lucid vs RMSmacs) I'm dating myself here by remembering those, I guess... Can't remember using gmacs, though, but Lucid, yes. > >

Re: Error message too stupid

I have an excellent idea for a start-up company, "Arguments, Inc.". The core technology is: No, that's a really great way to make Dr Memory unhappy. Really. The right way is to feed the arguments in through a stream if they're more than 10k or whatever. (y'all are spoiled, kid, when I thoug

Re: vim, and the configuration thereof

nvi kicks vim's pasty white butt. :) (and before the Emacs people get all excited... kids today, don't remember Gosling versus Lucid vs RMSmacs)

Re: vim, and the configuration thereof

On 5/18/07, Tony Finch wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2007, Zach White wrote: > > -Zach (Who's still upset that there's no way he can use nvi's multi-level >undo model when stuck in vim) Oh you can, except the key bindings are helpfully different. In proper^Wnvi, to undo multiple times you type

Re: vim, and the configuration thereof

On Thu, 17 May 2007, Zach White wrote: > > -Zach (Who's still upset that there's no way he can use nvi's multi-level >undo model when stuck in vim) Oh you can, except the key bindings are helpfully different. In proper^Wnvi, to undo multiple times you type u (just like to do anything m

Re: Is this software hate, people hate or both?

Mea culpa. I do have measures in place that are supposed to let me actually read my mail at work but stop anything like that from happening. Serves me right for trusting software. Hate, hate, hate. On 17 May 2007, at 23:05, A. Pagaltzis wrote: From: "McRae, Andrew" To: "A. Pagaltzis" Su

Is this software hate, people hate or both?

> From: "McRae, Andrew" > To: "A. Pagaltzis" > Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: vim, and the configuration thereof > Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 22:47:21 +0100 > Message-Id: > <4bbec328c75d10489184e6c35aa3a89c0450c...@gsmblnp11es.firmwide.corp.gs.com> > > I am out of the office until Monday 28 May.