Re: BBC Radio

2009-06-26 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Nicholas Clark wrote: > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 05:31:43PM -0400, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: >> Nicholas Clark wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 01:48:32PM -0700, Joshua Juran wrote: On Jun 26, 2009, at 1:45 PM, Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker wrote: > Nicholas Clark writes: > >> I o

Re: BBC Radio

2009-06-26 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 05:31:43PM -0400, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: > Nicholas Clark wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 01:48:32PM -0700, Joshua Juran wrote: > >> On Jun 26, 2009, at 1:45 PM, Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker wrote: > >> > >>> Nicholas Clark writes: > >>> > I offer you this software th

Re: BBC Radio

2009-06-26 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Nicholas Clark wrote: > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 01:48:32PM -0700, Joshua Juran wrote: >> On Jun 26, 2009, at 1:45 PM, Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker wrote: >> >>> Nicholas Clark writes: >>> I offer you this software that I've only just written. I don't think that it's that hateful: > >

Re: BBC Radio

2009-06-26 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:00:46PM +0100, Roger Burton West wrote: > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 09:53:21PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: > > >Oh right. So I should use autoconf to detect things like readlink, > >/proc/self/exe and the like, and hence make it find itself better, and thus > >make it les

Re: BBC Radio

2009-06-26 Thread Roger Burton West
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 09:53:21PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: >Oh right. So I should use autoconf to detect things like readlink, >/proc/self/exe and the like, and hence make it find itself better, and thus >make it less hateful? :-) And an option to look at its inode number and delete all hard

Re: BBC Radio

2009-06-26 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 01:48:32PM -0700, Joshua Juran wrote: > On Jun 26, 2009, at 1:45 PM, Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker wrote: > > >Nicholas Clark writes: > > > >>I offer you this software that I've only just written. I don't > >>think that > >>it's that hateful: > >>[likely won't be usefully po

Re: BBC Radio

2009-06-26 Thread Joshua Juran
On Jun 26, 2009, at 1:45 PM, Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker wrote: Nicholas Clark writes: I offer you this software that I've only just written. I don't think that it's that hateful: $ cat goodbye_world.c #include #include int main(int argc, char **argv) { puts("Goodbye world."); retu

Re: BBC Radio

2009-06-26 Thread Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker
Nicholas Clark writes: > I offer you this software that I've only just written. I don't think that > it's that hateful: > > $ cat goodbye_world.c > #include > #include > > int main(int argc, char **argv) { > puts("Goodbye world."); > return remove(argv[0]); > } > $ gcc -Wall -o goodbye

Re: BBC Radio

2009-06-26 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 04:00:29PM -0400, Michael Leuchtenburg wrote: > Roger Burton West wrote: > >On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 03:47:49PM -0400, Numien wrote: > >>On 06/26/2009 03:37 PM, Michael Leuchtenburg wrote: > >>>This requirement is so unclear it could only possibly lead you to > >>>hateful sof

Re: BBC Radio

2009-06-26 Thread Timothy Knox
Somewhere on Shadow Earth, at Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 04:03:38PM -0400, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: > I see your hate and raise: info hello You had me at: >-->---+ -- Timothy Knox The problem is that once you have done away with the

Re: BBC Radio

2009-06-26 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
>>> There is another kind? >> >> Software that hasn't been written yet? >> > > Hello World isn't too hateful. So long as it isn't GNU hello. I see your hate and raise: info hello > - Micheal > > -- There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'. It is 'dead'. -- Jack Cohen

Re: BBC Radio

2009-06-26 Thread Michael Leuchtenburg
Roger Burton West wrote: On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 03:47:49PM -0400, Numien wrote: On 06/26/2009 03:37 PM, Michael Leuchtenburg wrote: This requirement is so unclear it could only possibly lead you to hateful software. There is another kind? Software that hasn't been written yet? Hello Worl

Re: BBC Radio

2009-06-26 Thread Roger Burton West
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 03:47:49PM -0400, Numien wrote: >On 06/26/2009 03:37 PM, Michael Leuchtenburg wrote: >>This requirement is so unclear it could only possibly lead you to >>hateful software. >There is another kind? Software that hasn't been written yet?

Re: BBC Radio

2009-06-26 Thread Numien
On 06/26/2009 03:37 PM, Michael Leuchtenburg wrote: This requirement is so unclear it could only possibly lead you to hateful software. There is another kind?

Re: BBC Radio

2009-06-26 Thread Michael Leuchtenburg
Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: I have forever wanted something half-way between XMMS and iTunes (let me browse by metadata, but without abstracting away the file system behind a "library"), only with a bog-standard GUI. This requirement is so unclear it could only possibly lead you to hateful soft

Re: BBC Radio

2009-06-26 Thread H.Merijn Brand
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:50:24 +0200, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: > * H.Merijn Brand [2009-06-26 12:55]: > > The best proof for that is bmp (beep-media-player) which had a > > perfectly working SIMPLE GUI, but was abandoned for bmp-2 that > > doesn't work as good for audio, but has an overbloated G

Re: BBC Radio

2009-06-26 Thread Joshua Juran
On Jun 26, 2009, at 3:48 AM, H.Merijn Brand wrote: /me cares much about backups, where precious plugins reside that /do/ work and somehow are not shipped with `better' or `enhanced' versions of audio-players At first I thought you were talking about plugins for backup software. On that note

Re: BBC Radio

2009-06-26 Thread Joshua Juran
On Jun 25, 2009, at 5:26 AM, Nicholas Clark wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 03:57:51AM -0700, Joshua Juran wrote: RealAudio. Enough said. That's not a hate. That's a cop out. Please explain, for the benefit of listeners at home, why you love the software known as "RealAudio". :-) To be ho

Re: BBC Radio

2009-06-26 Thread Aristotle Pagaltzis
* H.Merijn Brand [2009-06-26 12:55]: > The best proof for that is bmp (beep-media-player) which had a > perfectly working SIMPLE GUI, but was abandoned for bmp-2 that > doesn't work as good for audio, but has an overbloated GUI. I have forever wanted something half-way between XMMS and iTunes (le

MySQL

2009-06-26 Thread H.Merijn Brand
Is the subject line enough? Right, so a customer asked if it were possible to run our product on MySQL. It already supports Unify, Oracle, Postgres. We write scripts that are very very close to the lowest level of portable SQL and they need close to no change to run on either of the above databa

Re: BBC Radio

2009-06-26 Thread Matthew King
Peter da Silva writes: > Also, whenever a programmer thinks, "Hey, skins, what a cool idea", > their computer's speakers should create some sort of cock- > shaped soundwave and plunge it repeatedly through their skulls. There are some times when I think to myself - That JWZ. He's absolutely rig

Re: BBC Radio

2009-06-26 Thread H.Merijn Brand
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 05:13:25 -0500, Peter da Silva wrote: > All audio software sucks. Even the best audio software developers seem > to think that the pinnacle of user interface design is whatever cheap > and greasy keyboard or amplifier they were playing "love shack" on the > night they fi

Re: BBC Radio

2009-06-26 Thread Peter da Silva
All audio software sucks. Even the best audio software developers seem to think that the pinnacle of user interface design is whatever cheap and greasy keyboard or amplifier they were playing "love shack" on the night they first got laid is the BEST THING EVAR and forever want to bring that