Re: [Heb-NACO] קלוקלים

2022-02-09 Thread Frau-Cortes, Neil via Heb-naco
For the record, I only said it was deramati as a joke, not implying it is the same rule From: Heb-naco On Behalf Of Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 2:37 PM To: Galron, Joseph ; Hebrew Name Authority Funnel Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] קלוקלים External Email Warning

Re: [Heb-NACO] קלוקלים

2022-02-08 Thread Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco
e category. Hence, ḳeloḳlim, not: ḳeloḳelim or ḳloḳlim (from: ḳeloḳel). Thanks, Jasmin From: Heb-naco On Behalf Of Galron, Joseph via Heb-naco Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 1:41 PM To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] קלוקלים I agree with Barry – it should be Kel

Re: [Heb-NACO] קלוקלים

2022-02-08 Thread Galron, Joseph via Heb-naco
Authority Funnel Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] קלוקלים Hi, Jasmin, The rule seems to be that if in the singular base word the letter in question has a vowel underneath it, then, in the plural the sheva is a sheva na. So, since the sing. is kelokel, with tsere under the kof, then the plural should be

Re: [Heb-NACO] קלוקלים

2022-02-08 Thread Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco
Name Authority Funnel Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] קלוקלים Hi, Jasmin, The rule seems to be that if in the singular base word the letter in question has a vowel underneath it, then, in the plural the sheva is a sheva na. So, since the sing. is kelokel, with tsere under the kof, then the plural should

Re: [Heb-NACO] קלוקלים

2022-02-08 Thread Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco
: [Heb-NACO] קלוקלים Hi Jasmin, In biblical Hebrew grammar, the sheva under the second kof would be a vocal sheva. Because a vav holem is a long vowel, the syllable kof vav holem is an open syllable so the second kof is the beginning of the next syllable and therefore the sheva is a vocal

Re: [Heb-NACO] קלוקלים

2022-02-08 Thread Frau-Cortes, Neil via Heb-naco
-naco Sent: Monday, February 7, 2022 6:01 PM To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel Subject: [Heb-NACO] קלוקלים External Email Warning: This email originated from outside the Broward County email system. Do not reply, click links, or open attachments unless you recognize the sender’s email address (not

Re: [Heb-NACO] קלוקלים

2022-02-08 Thread Dickel, Geraldine via Heb-naco
Hi Jasmin, In biblical Hebrew grammar, the sheva under the second kof would be a vocal sheva. Because a vav holem is a long vowel, the syllable kof vav holem is an open syllable so the second kof is the beginning of the next syllable and therefore the sheva is a vocal sheva. I don’t know if t

Re: [Heb-NACO] ‏ קלוקלים

2022-02-08 Thread Haim Levy via Heb-naco
המילה היא ריבוי של קְלוֹקֵל - קְלוֹקְלִים כך אצל אבן שושן וברב מילים מצורף צילום מאבן שושן מאת: ‏‏Heb-naco בשם Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco ‏‏נשלח: יום שלישי 08 פברואר 2022 01:00 ‏‏אל: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel ‏‏נושא: [Heb-NACO] קלוקלים Hi, all

Re: [Heb-NACO] קלוקלים

2022-02-08 Thread Barry Dov Walfish via Heb-naco
Hi, Jasmin, The rule seems to be that if in the singular base word the letter in question has a vowel underneath it, then, in the plural the sheva is a sheva na. So, since the sing. is kelokel, with tsere under the kof, then the plural should be kelokelim. See: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://

[Heb-NACO] קלוקלים

2022-02-07 Thread Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco
Hi, all, The above is found in a couple titles by Toviyah Rubner (and is cited from him in the E.-Sh. entry for word). It has historically been romanized as ḳeloḳelim. My question is, why is the sheva under the second kof romanized as though it were a vocalized sheva? As a sheva merahef, woul