On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:05:19PM -0400, Matthew Grant wrote:
Would it be a waste of time and bandwith if me and my server offered
cvs (daily or weekly) tarball snapsots of hurd,gnumach,mig and gnu's
unofficiall oskit? Just curious if this would help the community in
any way.
These have
what it likes with them.
I don't have my copy of Posix handy - Is there a rule saying that
directories cannot be textfiles? It's certainly reasonable in the Hurd
that they might be both.
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See http://bugs.debian.org/187509
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 10:57:45PM +0200, Manfred Hansen wrote:
Hi,
dpkg -i libncurses5-dev_5.2.20020112a-8_hurd-i386.deb
dpkg: error processing libncurses5-dev_5.2.20020112a-8_hurd-i386.deb
(--install):
package architecture (hurd-i386) does not match
is about 30 megs. If you're compiling your own,
you can do it in significantly less. You can't do much more than log in
and shut down the machine at that point, though.
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On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 01:30:27AM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
please some of the alpha people could put up a fixed/hacked version there?
even if you just rise epoch to 1:1.10.4 from the older version it'll save
lots of trouble.
Don't do that. Then we'd be an epoch in front of the rest of
On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 10:34:32PM +0200, sigbj-st wrote:
Are they still 'regular' device-files or is it different with Hurd?
Or has this anything to do with the translator-concept?
Exactly right. They're all translators.
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On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 01:04:54PM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
The savannah interface works lovely. If you have troubles, /msg me.
(I don't think I'm a project admin for the Hurd)
I thought that it was different for older GNU projects that moved into
savannah. Might be obsolete
from sourceware (now sources). They used to use gnats, but
IIRC, RedHat's moved to bugzilla for most things. For libc, libc-alpha
is a good place to send things. If they're interesting, someone will
usually pick up the bug and fix it.
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if you're using modified source.
When we report Debian bugs, we make very sure that what we have is a
real upstream bug.
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?
It might be, but gcc-2.8.1 won't be useful to you.
You haven't given me anything to reply to. Please list your exact
steps. If you're not very familiar with cross-compiling, there are
usually easier ways to get what you want. But it's not clear what
you're trying to do.
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of
it, a new person, irritated at how out of date the manual has become can
pick it up instead of forking or writing a new one. New users will
still know that foo.nongnu.org has a hurd users manual.
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as bad as it is in the US. We even have a GNU Hurd users
group in Toronto. =)
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On Sat, Oct 12, 2002 at 09:42:33AM +0200, Andreas K. Foerster wrote:
BTW. it was never meant to be published outside of this list. -
just a joke!
That's how I got my computer slashdotted one time.. Hey, I've got
this web server running on the Hurd...
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. =) But
isn't it the long term plan to do this? I remember Neal saying that
L4 had no build in console, so we needed to be robust enough for this
anyway.
Tks,
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On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 07:29:58PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
Maybe the driver in Mach is just way too old, and it will only work
for you with OSKit in GNU Mach 2.
The adaptec driver in Oskit is screwed. James Morrison is working on
it, though.
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forms that legally give the FSF possesion of all the GNU code you
write.
It's a bit of a pain to do, but it means that the FSF could fight in
court in the event of a copyright violation. Otherwise, all of the
developpers have to get together to fight it in court themselves.
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and special. They also both can be either short
or long projects, depending on how thorough you want to be. They also
have very short returns so you don't have to worry about something
going wrong and having nothing to show for 3 months of work.
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On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 06:53:20PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
The license on your email apparently doesn't allow me to alter your
message in any way (It specifies verbatim copying only). Since I
refuse to top quote, I would probably choose to not quote at all,
which could make this
On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 06:52:54AM -0700, James Morrison wrote:
apt-get install gcc-i386-gnu
This is currently a gcc-2.95 compiler. It may not give you what you
want for anything other than gnumach.
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there are some fantastic pictures.
a month or so
ago. Roland hadn't applied his alpha changes, so I don't know
anymore). It also compiled Oskit, but I haven't tried running the
result of that one.
Tks,
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On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 11:13:50PM -0500, Robert Lowe wrote:
to tell the compiler explicitly where to find libs. It still doesn't
work. It complains with the following error:
i386-gnu-gcc test.c
/usr/i386-gnu/bin/ld: cannot open /lib/libc.so.0.3: No such file or
directory
collect2:
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 09:25:34PM -0700, Jeff Bailey wrote:
Edit /lib/libc.so.0.3 and remove the /lib from in front of the
libraries. There's probably a better answer, but that worked well
enough for me to bootstrap the libio builds.
Bah, I should be clearer (lest the voice of Roland lart
On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 06:44:22PM +0200, Ludovic Court?s wrote:
Well, the `oskit' directory of the CVS repository is actually empty,
so where can we get the source?
There are nightly snapshots of the CVS branch at
ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/cvs/gnumach-oskit.tgz
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On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 12:18:42AM -0400, Neal H Walfield wrote:
THUS, the Toronto-(area) (GNU/)Hurd Users Group is, I beleive, the
(THUG, BTW.. I should learn to type... *g*)
only funcitoning HUG in the world. We'll be doing our best to
make our presence known. =)
Ahem! There is
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 06:07:56PM +0200, Jan Atle Ramsli wrote:
AOL!
AOL!
AOL!
Eh, what does AOL mean? I see it on some Windows desktops, too, I
took it to mean 'Always Off-Line' for people who were not interested
in Internet, but seriously..?
It's a tradition, that AOL users
On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 10:19:08PM -0400, B. Douglas Hilton wrote:
So Jim, how far is the University of Waterloo from York University?
Hope you can make it to the Debconf 2 this year in Toronto. I'm
looking forward to it. It would be nice to have a strong Hurder
presence.
THUS, the
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 06:47:06AM -0700, Kenneth Stailey wrote:
/etc/mtab is bad because read-only filesystem and full filesystem
etc cannot generate or update it. *BSD got rid of it a while ago
for getmntinfo(3) API. Should HURD adopt this API?
There isn't currently a central store where
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 02:29:55PM -0700, Andrew M. Miklic wrote:
Does anyone know how to build a cross-compiler suite? Where can I
get the source code for the compiler currently being used on the
HURD?
The directions on http://gcc.gnu.org/ are pretty clear. If you have
any specific
, or is it just
a bug? Jeff? Marcus? Anyone?
I emailed the ftpmaster a little bit ago and haven't heart. He's
probably just busy with life and the Woody release. I assume he
wouldn't start wiping things without mentioning it.
Tks,
Jeff Bailey
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On Tue, Oct 09, 2001 at 07:20:07PM -0700, James Morrison wrote:
I found a reference to a gopherfs translator by Igor last december.
Does anyone have the source for this translator.
I've never heard of this, but if you find it, let me know - I'll see
if I can salvage any of it to make a gopher
to generate code. Because of this, I would suggest that
you focus your goals as tightly as you can so that more people are
tempted to send you code.
Tks,
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On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 06:54:28PM +0200, alexis chauvin wrote:
i've just installed hurd and i'd like to know how to use the man pages
The easiest answer is probably not the one you're looking for.
What did you use to install the Hurd? If Debian, you need to apt-get
install the man pages.
on that computer too? If yes, create
the swap partition, and edit the /etc/fstab from there.
If not, you'll probably want some other OS on there so that you can
recover the computer from time to time. =)
Tks,
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Resource temporarily unavailable
lsh-keygen: Could not get enough entropy from the environment.
lsh-writekey: No more sexps.
Does the magical entropy generator only work after the keys have been created?
Tks,
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orthogonal to the randomness generator.
I'm just going through old messages - I will add this to the non-US
builder tommorow.
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'aux' is a reserved word under win32, so can't be checked out.
There is probably no solution to this problem.
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 11:59:20AM +0900, Masanori ITOH wrote:
Hi all,
I tried to checkout the gnumach sources yesterday, and I got the following
error message of CVS.
|cvs
. =)
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On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 07:27:30PM +0200, Petros Sidiropoulos wrote:
all the links in http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ returns:
'Not Found! HTTP Error 404'
They work for me - Can you provide more details?
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On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 11:47:05AM -0800, david wrote:
Has anyone noticed the large amount of spam being sent to this list lately?
I don't think it's noticably increased in the last year or so.
Is there anything we can do as a community other then unsubscribing to the list.
Test for
On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 12:41:32AM +0100, Patrick Strasser wrote:
I think Jeff Bailey at hurd.zugzug.com was looking for some help
Maybe kind of off-topic: Is this the Hurd server running apache?
Yeah - Offline for the meantime until I move my box to work.
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On Tue, Nov 28, 2000 at 11:43:18AM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
Is there an equivalent to the Linux Tulip networking driver for the
Intel/Digital 21040/21041/21140/21142/21143 for HURD? If so, how well
tested is it? (Yeah, I know the whole thing probably isn't tested that much;
On Mon, Nov 27, 2000 at 06:11:36PM -0800, Timm Murray wrote:
Is there an equivalent to the Linux Tulip networking driver for the
Intel/Digital 21040/21041/21140/21142/21143 for HURD? If so, how well
tested is it? (Yeah, I know the whole thing probably isn't tested that much;
I'm looking for
Sorry about not getting web site work done this weekend. My cat went
into emergency care on Sunday morning, and this swallowed up the time I
had planned to use to get the L4/Mach stuff posted. I'll catch it as
quickly as I can.
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On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 07:10:43PM +, David Coquil wrote:
In french, I say "Le Hurd", as if Hurd was male.
I thought about replying the same, but I think that apart from
"cross-language compatibility" ;-) French language is not really relevant
here : in French substantives have male
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 11:04:39AM -0400, Christopher C. Chimelis wrote:
Perhaps. I'm looking at both, but working more on gnumach really. If
everyone keeps nudging us to work on oskit so much, why does anyone bother
working on gnumach? Just curious...
Because try as I might, I still have
On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 07:13:28PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Will the hurd run on a RS/6000 320 7012?
There is no current port to an RS/6000.
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the sense of accomplishment you get from getting them to work at all."
On Thu, Jul 20, 2000 at 03:07:19PM +0200, Li0 wrote:
I'm having some troubles with the cross-install script, apparently due
to some dpkg problems. But as i'm not a Debian user (a slackware one),
i'm not used to that king of dpkg error messages...
The script says :
dpkg did return
On Sat, Jul 15, 2000 at 05:47:57PM -0700, PCbob - Slobodan miskoviC wrote:
I'm unable to establish network connection (rogers cable internet)
mach finds my adapter, and i did
settrans /servers/socket/2 /hurd/pfinet -i eth0 -a 24.115.93.190 -g
24.115.93.129 -m 255.255.255.128
(i
On Sat, Jul 15, 2000 at 04:10:00PM +0200, Andreas Rottmann wrote:
I just got a mainboard, AMD K5 100 and 120MB HDD *g* lieing around and
will use that to put together a HURD box.
The 120 MB HD will probably do you to boot and run the system, but will
be painfully small for development.
On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 02:40:04AM -0700, Seth Nickell wrote:
Another valuable tool would be Bugzilla. I know nothing of this...but
would sourceforge be willing / able to host bugzilla for us? The value
in Bugzilla is that it makes it easier for non-HURD *developers* to be
attracted to the
On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 08:59:32AM +0300, Ognyan Kulev wrote:
People need such site.
Hey, *I* need such a site and I'm resonably knowledgable. =) I keep up
only because I've been following this for many years, I can't imagine
starting now.
About the browsers: I can't tell lynx is
Ladies, Gentleman, Trannies, and anyone who happens to care:
I have been slowly (quite slowly, actually) throwing together some useful
information on http://hurddocs.org/ - It has hit a point where it should
be useful for the average beginner, and possibly as a jump point for more
experienced
On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 05:25:08PM -0400, Olivier Galibert wrote:
Now, can't this be done by setting up a direct communication channel
between two userspace processes? With a semaphore you can check on
incoming messages, etc. This way you only need to do a context-switch if
you ask the
On Tue, Jun 13, 2000 at 06:55:21AM -0400, Olivier Galibert wrote:
Does anyone know whether a fresh-out-of-the-sourceware-cvs glibc works
under hurd nowadays? I don't mean perfectly works, of course, just
whether there are fundamental problems in making it run vs. random
bugfixes here and
on there as well.
If any of you happen to run users groups, please let me know and I will
create a place for them.
Tks,
Jeff Bailey
http://www.hurddocs.org/ (new name, the sourceforge one still works though!)
Dear ones,
I'm interested in possibly contacting others in Berkeley who are doing work
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 10:28:38PM +0200, Anders Malm wrote:
I wonder if one can get the compressed archive of the source. I know that there are
a V0.2 available at alpha.gnu.org but that one is quite old. Are there any, more
recent/newer, available? If so, could someone please give me the
-faq/FAQ-1.html
I think Jeff Bailey at hurd.zugzug.com was looking for some help
documenting and I think it was Bill White (I may be wrong) who was also
doing some documentation.
If anyone has any additional info urls please post them with a reply and
I'll incorporate them in the
On Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 10:57:50PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have some problems with the script 'make-install' given with the ghhk package.
The symbolic links seem to be wrong !
Is someone who can give me more informations about this ?
I'm not really familiar with the ghhk. What
ng running.
Contributions will be appreciated and welcome. If you want a CVS server
to keep some documentation under revision control, this is available.
If you want to take a look at the placeholder page:
http://hurddocs.sourceforge.net/ (Prettier name on it's way!)
Tks,
Jeff Bailey
On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 12:32:49AM +0200, Jakub Skopal wrote:
I'm trying to install HURD for the first time from the Debian
distribution, but I feel this question is not connected with the
Debiannes I need to tell HURD (mach?) not to use DMA transfers for
HDD, cause it is proven buggy
On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 05:23:50PM +0200, jr wrote:
Hello,
I'm breaking trough some papers about MIG, and servers writing.
Where can i find mig ? I'd like to see how it produces code.
questions: all hurd's servers are written with mig's help? where can i get
description/documentation of
On Wed, Apr 12, 2000 at 04:01:21PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
It is currently in version 0.4, while 0.5 is being prepared. Beside
improving the source,
there is also the task of setting up a hurd machine as an autobuilder.
This is done in
parallel, and the only reason it is not
On Wed, Apr 12, 2000 at 05:58:21PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
That said, SMP support in GNU Mach is known to be broken as well, so it
would probably be a better start to check OSF Mach + Hurd.
Even with the OSKit stuff? I thought I saw some SMP stuff in there...
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On Tue, Apr 11, 2000 at 01:02:07AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Jeff Bailey wrote:
Is hurd-vision a good name for multimedia discussion? (Any dissentors?
anyone care?)
Is the focus of this new list multimedia only? I thought the direction was
broader than
On Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 02:09:15AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You've said some confusiung things in your email. You've refered to both
debian and GNU 0.2, which are not the same. Gnu 0.2 is a multiple
year-old release on the GNU servers - I suggest you avoid that one. The
newer debian
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 11:13:54PM -0700, Kevin Musick wrote:
Oh, of course. I forgot to execute native-install. I completely reinstalled my
hurd partition from the Mar 1 tarball and executed native-install. That seemed to
fix the problem. However, I did notice a few things:
1. Despite
On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 11:50:49AM -0500, Roland McGrath wrote:
I need to go through the effort of figuring out how to setup OSKit
GNUMach. Once that is done, I will change the instructions so that egcs
isn't used at all. (Contributions welcome!! hint, hint - for that and
any other
On Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 11:48:12AM -0600, Gordon Matzigkeit wrote:
1) Have you successfully gotten the Hurd running?
Yes - I have had the Hurd running in one form or another for nearly 3 years.
2) If so, is your Hurd box currently running as you expect it to?
Better. I have a web server
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