Re: [hexayurt] Re: Video test of Buckminster Fuller's Cooling Effect

2011-09-23 Thread Jack Senechal
Hi Ken, I had thought of doing it with a drip tank, yes. That definitely seems like the simplest passive setup. I bet we could figure out something else though. My main goal with a passive setup would be to do away with fan noise. >From that perspective a battery or solar powered pump would proba

[hexayurt] Re: Video test of Buckminster Fuller's Cooling Effect

2011-09-03 Thread kenwinston caine
Jack, I'm intrigued by this. Am wondering how you envision establishing a passive swamp cooler setup? That is, no pump. I understand how you will move the air (via heat convection with the solar chimney). But how will you move the water to keep the the pads moist? Or would this require refilling

Re: [hexayurt] Re: Video test of Buckminster Fuller's Cooling Effect

2011-09-03 Thread Jack Senechal
A lot of national parks use the solar chimney for ventilation of outhouse style toilets. It is very effective. They use about a 9 inch diameter PVC pipe that goes up the entire side of the building and several feet above, so it gets a good amount of sun exposure. I think you could do it with smalle

Re: [hexayurt] Re: Video test of Buckminster Fuller's Cooling Effect

2011-08-26 Thread ken winston caine
The black pipe concept is similar to what is known in passive-solar building as a "solar chimney." Google that term for some more inspiration. Solar chimneys do work. -- ken winston caine On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 4:30 PM, William Ozier wrote: > First off I am also a skeptic on this version of th

Re: [hexayurt] Re: Video test of Buckminster Fuller's Cooling Effect

2011-08-26 Thread William Ozier
First off I am also a skeptic on this version of the cooling effect...though the conditions set in the video did not match the description of how the effect works. Anyway, I had an idea for a hexayurt passive cooling system that I designed, and started but did not get to try last year (and won't th

Re: [hexayurt] Re: Video test of Buckminster Fuller's Cooling Effect

2011-08-26 Thread The Distinguished ...
Greetings, Sorry I'm behind again, catching up from being at Pennsic (and living in a collection of connected traditional ger (yurt)) cooled in the traditional style (open roof vent hole, raise the sides a little, and get a pleasant breeze) quite pleasantly. A few questions, if I may, On Tue, 20

[hexayurt] Re: Video test of Buckminster Fuller's Cooling Effect

2011-08-10 Thread KK
There is also the small roof turbine: http://youtu.be/nWsVl1t5NQ0 Now, I'd like to put one of these on top and see how my smoke flows through it. Problems with these? The bearings are cheap and freeze up. They also make a lot of noise all night keeping you awake. SoI'm still into an active fa

[hexayurt] Re: Video test of Buckminster Fuller's Cooling Effect

2011-08-10 Thread KK
On Aug 10, 2:06 am, Jack Senechal wrote: > So if you put a tall black chimney on top, does it significantly > increase air flow I wonder? I'd expect it to in sunny conditions... Yes, I bet it would. Now imagine a wide, black painted "chamber" in the pipe on top. There would be more surface area t

Re: [hexayurt] Re: Video test of Buckminster Fuller's Cooling Effect

2011-08-10 Thread Jack Senechal
So if you put a tall black chimney on top, does it significantly increase air flow I wonder? I'd expect it to in sunny conditions... On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 7:04 PM, KK wrote: > Ok...part 2 of the video test is up. > > http://youtu.be/bJXd71ZaWls > > Foam board covering. Model on ground. > > Outsi

[hexayurt] Re: Video test of Buckminster Fuller's Cooling Effect

2011-08-09 Thread KK
Ok...part 2 of the video test is up. http://youtu.be/bJXd71ZaWls Foam board covering. Model on ground. Outside Temp - 100 deg. F Windspeed - 7mph Sun Intensity - Off the chart! Same result. No difference. No reverse air flow downwards. So, if you are one of the "wee people" living in a tiny hex

[hexayurt] Re: Video test of Buckminster Fuller's Cooling Effect

2011-08-02 Thread KK
You could run a fluid dynamics simulation on a hexayurt. Just enter in the parameters. Takes a beefy computer though. There's a project for bored university guys! It could settle it in "an instant". As "Laurie" stated in her direct letter to BF " The effect you are thinking of is the Joule-T

Re: [hexayurt] Re: Video test of Buckminster Fuller's Cooling Effect

2011-08-02 Thread Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project)
Fluid dynamics doesn't scale. I've seen *very* odd effects around huge domes at Burning Man - 60ft diameter, covered with a cargo chute, chimney-style airflow up the sides of the dome for substantial cooling, but no downdraft. But still very, very weird. Perhaps we should get Mythbusters involved,

[hexayurt] Re: Video test of Buckminster Fuller's Cooling Effect

2011-08-01 Thread KK
Make it happen Cap'n! I gladly pass the torch to *you* Let us know how you make out! Cheers ;) On Aug 1, 9:34 am, Max Turunen wrote: > I'm not convinced yet... needs more testing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hexayurt" group. To post to th

Re: [hexayurt] Re: Video test of Buckminster Fuller's Cooling Effect

2011-08-01 Thread Max Turunen
I'm not convinced yet... needs more testing. On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 5:59 PM, KK wrote: > Not gonna happen. These conditions probably cannot be met in "real > life" anywhere. > The proof would have been in documentation. If he did any at all. > > His only personal mention of this cooling (availab

[hexayurt] Re: Video test of Buckminster Fuller's Cooling Effect

2011-08-01 Thread KK
Not gonna happen. These conditions probably cannot be met in "real life" anywhere. The proof would have been in documentation. If he did any at all. His only personal mention of this cooling (available on the net and book form) is rife with silly talk. Laurie pointed this out. There would need to